What is your favorite neutral adventuring zone?

defunct122216 · November 2016

Which of the following is your overall favorite neutral zone?

jedtb16_ESO · November 2016

um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Kendaric · November 2016

Wrothgar

tigerofserbia wrote: »

Which of the following is your overall favorite neutral zone?

Wrothgar, because it has a bit of everything just like the original zones.
Hew's Bane and Gold Coast tie for the second place, there's just not enough to do outside dailies and the short guild questlines that are not every character.

UrQuan · November 2016

Wrothgar

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Such as? What other zones meet the criteria? I guess you could argue that Cyrodiil meets the criteria because it's not held by any one alliance, and there's adventuring that you can do there, but it's really a PVP zone with some scattered PVE thrown in. Imperial City is different because it's much heavier on the PVE, so it fits the criteria listed a lot better (even though it's a PVP zone too).

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

jedtb16_ESO · November 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Such as? What other zones meet the criteria? I guess you could argue that Cyrodiil meets the criteria because it's not held by any one alliance, and there's adventuring that you can do there, but it's really a PVP zone with some scattered PVE thrown in. Imperial City is different because it's much heavier on the PVE, so it fits the criteria listed a lot better (even though it's a PVP zone too).

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

1t..... effectively its all neutral.

newtinmpls · November 2016

Not sure... still dipping my toes in

UrQuan · November 2016

Wrothgar

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Such as? What other zones meet the criteria? I guess you could argue that Cyrodiil meets the criteria because it's not held by any one alliance, and there's adventuring that you can do there, but it's really a PVP zone with some scattered PVE thrown in. Imperial City is different because it's much heavier on the PVE, so it fits the criteria listed a lot better (even though it's a PVP zone too).

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

1t..... effectively its all neutral.

No. The original 15 zones are all Alliance zones where you're doing quests explicitly to aid the respective alliances. None of them could be considered neutral.

jedtb16_ESO · November 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Such as? What other zones meet the criteria? I guess you could argue that Cyrodiil meets the criteria because it's not held by any one alliance, and there's adventuring that you can do there, but it's really a PVP zone with some scattered PVE thrown in. Imperial City is different because it's much heavier on the PVE, so it fits the criteria listed a lot better (even though it's a PVP zone too).

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

1t..... effectively its all neutral.

No. The original 15 zones are all Alliance zones where you're doing quests explicitly to aid the respective alliances. None of them could be considered neutral.

that is your interpretation, you are welcome to it.

UrQuan · November 2016

Wrothgar

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Such as? What other zones meet the criteria? I guess you could argue that Cyrodiil meets the criteria because it's not held by any one alliance, and there's adventuring that you can do there, but it's really a PVP zone with some scattered PVE thrown in. Imperial City is different because it's much heavier on the PVE, so it fits the criteria listed a lot better (even though it's a PVP zone too).

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

1t..... effectively its all neutral.

No. The original 15 zones are all Alliance zones where you're doing quests explicitly to aid the respective alliances. None of them could be considered neutral.

that is your interpretation, you are welcome to it.

It's not an interpretation. Those 15 zones are explicitly territory of their respective alliances, and while questing in them the main questlines are explicitly supporting the alliance you're in. It's black and white. They are alliance territory and as such not neutral.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · November 2016

Wrothgar

Hard to choose just one

Abeille · November 2016

Wrothgar

Wrothgar is my favourite zone in the entire game.

It isn't really a fair competition, though. I love orcs, love solo PvE, love questing, love many of the returning and new characters, completely lost my cool when I found a certain mysterious letter and I'm a complete sucker for snowy areas, most likely because I never saw snow IRL.

method__01 · November 2016

Wrothgar

Wrothgar

resources,snow,tough dungeons and awesome world bosses

WhiteCoatSyndrome · November 2016

Craglorn

#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony

Craglorn has the Celestials, nothing the rest of them do or don't do can compete with that. Wrothgar can have second place because the plot and story was good there too. Coldharbour and Imperial City are too depressing, and I'm not actually keen on either the Dark Brotherhood or the Thieves Guild (as organizations. Thieves Guild has interesting characters, haven't finished Dark Brotherhood yet).

Kendaric · November 2016

Wrothgar

The one thing I miss in Wrothgar, Hew's Bane and the Gold Coast is not being able to ally ourselves with the antagonists. It seems like a missed opportunity to introduce some sort of reputation system.

Enslaved · November 2016

Wrothgar

Hew's Bane is ok if you can stand the damned kotu gavas. Gold coast is pretty boring imo. And Wrothgar is way better that both of them, even combined. Craglorn is not that bad, and it looks nice, but the hours of sheer frustration I had in there cannot be forgotten. and IC is all but neutral. My ignore list is filled with ppl from all alliances, just to prove this.

Enodoc · November 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

I think Wrothgar technically is Neutral; while Kurog may be a Covenant leader, he is quick to point out that Wrothgar is considered a "truce zone", and is therefore not covered by Alliance jurisdiction.

Milvan · November 2016

Gold Coast

I know there is not much to do, but I love that landscape and the cities. I would move to there in no time.

EsoRecon · November 2016

Craglorn

I spend the most time in craglorn.

RiddleDiddle · November 2016

Gold Coast

I just LOVE the feeling Gold Coast gives me, it looks absolutely amazing.
Too bad like nothing can be done there except the dailies after finishing everything, that's why i would choose for Wrothgar.
BUT Gold Coast look and feel is so beautiful i HAD to vote for Gold Coast.

altemriel · November 2016

Imperial City

definitely IC!!

Vildebill · November 2016

Craglorn

Love Swaglorn for the beautiful views and cool areas/dungeons.

Cryptical · November 2016

Abeille wrote: »

and I'm a complete sucker for snowy areas, most likely because I never saw snow IRL.

Its not as awesome as the TV can make it seem. Imagine shoveling 4 inches of sand off all your sidewalks, all the way out to your entire parking spot. Imagine mirrors reflecting sunlight into your eyes wherever you look. Imagine random spots of oil on the ground making you slip and fall. Snow can be heavy like sand, with a blinding white glare across the ground everywhere you look, and create ice patches just big enough to send you into the hard frozen concrete elbow first.

Maine, in the off season like february, is a cheap vacation and will give you all the 'winter' you will want.

Abeille · November 2016

Wrothgar

Cryptical wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

and I'm a complete sucker for snowy areas, most likely because I never saw snow IRL.

Its not as awesome as the TV can make it seem. Imagine shoveling 4 inches of sand off all your sidewalks, all the way out to your entire parking spot. Imagine mirrors reflecting sunlight into your eyes wherever you look. Imagine random spots of oil on the ground making you slip and fall. Snow can be heavy like sand, with a blinding white glare across the ground everywhere you look, and create ice patches just big enough to send you into the hard frozen concrete elbow first.

Maine, in the off season like february, is a cheap vacation and will give you all the 'winter' you will want.

I really can't travel abroad until my post graduation course is over in two years, but I'll keep Maine in mind

Every time I went to a country that has snow, I went during their summer (our winter) because it is the least busy time of the year for me and my family. But I have a friend who studies in Michigan and he said pretty much the same you did xD

BlackEar · November 2016

Wrothgar

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Such as? What other zones meet the criteria? I guess you could argue that Cyrodiil meets the criteria because it's not held by any one alliance, and there's adventuring that you can do there, but it's really a PVP zone with some scattered PVE thrown in. Imperial City is different because it's much heavier on the PVE, so it fits the criteria listed a lot better (even though it's a PVP zone too).

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

1t..... effectively its all neutral.

No. The original 15 zones are all Alliance zones where you're doing quests explicitly to aid the respective alliances. None of them could be considered neutral.

that is your interpretation, you are welcome to it.

It's not an interpretation. Those 15 zones are explicitly territory of their respective alliances, and while questing in them the main questlines are explicitly supporting the alliance you're in. It's black and white. They are alliance territory and as such not neutral.

Then you are wrong when you say IC is neutral because it is pve heavy, as it doesn't matter according to the definitions you brought forward. Each alliance seem to advance themselves through the quests therefore not neutral. Might want to check up on your own statements before bashing others

Cyrodiil is t neutral either. It is not even arguable as you prorpose, or according to your definition.

Saint_Bud · November 2016

Craglorn

The original craglon, because i like group play. There are so awasome dungeouns and boss mechanics, but zos dont invest time to make them nice again. Never forget first shadas tear run. They should remake this dungeon to a 4 player trial!

UrQuan · November 2016

Wrothgar

BlackEar wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Such as? What other zones meet the criteria? I guess you could argue that Cyrodiil meets the criteria because it's not held by any one alliance, and there's adventuring that you can do there, but it's really a PVP zone with some scattered PVE thrown in. Imperial City is different because it's much heavier on the PVE, so it fits the criteria listed a lot better (even though it's a PVP zone too).

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

1t..... effectively its all neutral.

No. The original 15 zones are all Alliance zones where you're doing quests explicitly to aid the respective alliances. None of them could be considered neutral.

that is your interpretation, you are welcome to it.

It's not an interpretation. Those 15 zones are explicitly territory of their respective alliances, and while questing in them the main questlines are explicitly supporting the alliance you're in. It's black and white. They are alliance territory and as such not neutral.

Then you are wrong when you say IC is neutral because it is pve heavy, as it doesn't matter according to the definitions you brought forward. Each alliance seem to advance themselves through the quests therefore not neutral. Might want to check up on your own statements before bashing others

Cyrodiil is t neutral either. It is not even arguable as you prorpose, or according to your definition.

They're neutral because they aren't controlled by any of the alliances - the alliances are all fighting to control them, but they can't hold them, and the territory that they "control" in those zones is constantly shifting. The entire area is a contested war zone. When you're questing in IC or battling in Cyrodiil you're fighting for the benefit of your home alliance, not for the benefit of the alliance whose territory you're in, because you're not in the territory of any alliance.

And I wasn't talking about being PVE heavy as having anything to do with being neutral - that's how IC meets the "adventuring zone" part of the criteria, it has nothing to do with the "neutral" part of the criteria.

UrQuan · November 2016

Wrothgar

Abeille wrote: »

Cryptical wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

and I'm a complete sucker for snowy areas, most likely because I never saw snow IRL.

Its not as awesome as the TV can make it seem. Imagine shoveling 4 inches of sand off all your sidewalks, all the way out to your entire parking spot. Imagine mirrors reflecting sunlight into your eyes wherever you look. Imagine random spots of oil on the ground making you slip and fall. Snow can be heavy like sand, with a blinding white glare across the ground everywhere you look, and create ice patches just big enough to send you into the hard frozen concrete elbow first.

Maine, in the off season like february, is a cheap vacation and will give you all the 'winter' you will want.

I really can't travel abroad until my post graduation course is over in two years, but I'll keep Maine in mind

Every time I went to a country that has snow, I went during their summer (our winter) because it is the least busy time of the year for me and my family. But I have a friend who studies in Michigan and he said pretty much the same you did xD

If you're interested in seeing snow, don't make the mistake of coming to the part of Canada where I live. We pretty much don't get any. Heck, we hosted the Winter OIympics without any snow on the ground, except up at the mountain resort a couple of hours' drive away.

drakhan2002_ESO · November 2016

Wrothgar

Wrothgar. Best DLC yet. Wish they would make more DLCs/expansion like it - great main story, lots of dailies and side quests, big zone. Good stuff. ZOS just got a little lazy with TG/DB as they were too focused primarily on the stealthy archetype. I hope they implement something for finger-wagglers or shield users. But we'll see...

Elsonso · November 2016

Wrothgar

Gold Coast seems small and empty. Hew's Bane is interesting visually, probably one of the best zones for that, and definitely better than Gold Coast. Craglorn is my favorite zone, visually, and I have spent more time there than any other zone. However, Wrothgar is tops right now due to diverse things to do and it is visually interesting, like Hew's Bane and Craglorn.

thawks · November 2016

Wrothgar

Wrothgar is close to perfect as a zone, but I would've preferred to delve into the politics of the Mauloch/Malacath identity schism over the cult conspiracy of the Vosh Rakh. A bit more focus on the outlying orcish clans would've been nice as well, to learn more about what sets them apart from each other beyond "these guys are miners, and those guys are herders."

Craglorn has pretty decent visuals, but the desert in the south is too bland, and travelling by foot from the south to the north is a pain; one additional path in the center, perhaps just north of the Seeker's Archive, would've done wonders. I also wish Dragonstar would've been more prominent than it is. The main questline feels incoherent and rushed, it rarely goes into enough detail on the Celestials or the various enemy factions for it to be truly interesting, and none of the characters aren't particularly memorable.

Hew's Bane is visually awesome and navigating Abah's Landing is a treat, but the zone's too small for it to give you a feeling of meaningful discovery. The quest line is pretty fun however.

The Gold Coast is nice, but could've used more trees. I'm not a big fan of the Dark Brotherhood, however, so the questline wasn't very interesting to me; I preferred the side quests.

Coldharbour lacks variety of any kind. The dark yet harsh colour scheme gets very tiresome very quickly, and the whole zone feels more like a set of boxes to tick off than a coherent whole. Everything north of the Hollow City just feels like a long, incredibly boring trek to a final boss fight that never even arrives. The fact that it was almost entirely separate from the main quest also annoyed me more than you know. I don't believe the devs intended for you to ever return after completing it, and it shows.

The Imperial City is pretty bad as well. It shares the same aesthetical problems as Coldharbour, but is also claustrophobic, and navigating the insides of its buildings and sewers usually leaves me a bit dizzy. It works as a PvP arena however, and that's what it's intended as, and so it shouldn't really be judged by the same standards.

Enodoc · November 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

BlackEar wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

um... i think you may be missing a few locations there.

Such as? What other zones meet the criteria? I guess you could argue that Cyrodiil meets the criteria because it's not held by any one alliance, and there's adventuring that you can do there, but it's really a PVP zone with some scattered PVE thrown in. Imperial City is different because it's much heavier on the PVE, so it fits the criteria listed a lot better (even though it's a PVP zone too).

Oh and technically Wrothgar doesn't really meet the criteria as it's not really neutral - it's part of the Daggerfall Covenant. It's a pretty independant part of the Daggerfall Covenant, though (as evidenced by the fact that they put a call out for adventurers from across Tamriel to help solve their problems rather than invite in DC soldiers), so I think it's fine to include it in the list.

1t..... effectively its all neutral.

No. The original 15 zones are all Alliance zones where you're doing quests explicitly to aid the respective alliances. None of them could be considered neutral.

that is your interpretation, you are welcome to it.

It's not an interpretation. Those 15 zones are explicitly territory of their respective alliances, and while questing in them the main questlines are explicitly supporting the alliance you're in. It's black and white. They are alliance territory and as such not neutral.

Then you are wrong when you say IC is neutral because it is pve heavy, as it doesn't matter according to the definitions you brought forward. Each alliance seem to advance themselves through the quests therefore not neutral. Might want to check up on your own statements before bashing others
Cyrodiil is t neutral either. It is not even arguable as you prorpose, or according to your definition.

They're neutral because they aren't controlled by any of the alliances - the alliances are all fighting to control them, but they can't hold them, and the territory that they "control" in those zones is constantly shifting. The entire area is a contested war zone. When you're questing in IC or battling in Cyrodiil you're fighting for the benefit of your home alliance, not for the benefit of the alliance whose territory you're in, because you're not in the territory of any alliance.

And I wasn't talking about being PVE heavy as having anything to do with being neutral - that's how IC meets the "adventuring zone" part of the criteria, it has nothing to do with the "neutral" part of the criteria.

"Disputed" might be a better label for Cyrodiil and IC, since the alliances are fighting for control. All the other "Neutral" places are stable in their neutrality, and the alliances are not disputing that neutrality. Of course there are still neutral aspects to Cyrodiil and IC; IC's storyline is completely neutral, as it's you and the Drake of Blades vs the Daedra, without the alliances getting involved.

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