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How To Handle Rude Players
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AverageJo3Gam3r✭✭✭✭✭Unless you have a vMOL clear on your card (PvE) or are a grand overlord (PvP), grow a thicker skin. Everyone except these two groups of folks have room to grow and expand in their build, playstyle, and knowlege of the game. Constructive criticism should always welcomed. I get tired of tanks coping an attitude when I point out that aggressive warhorn leads to faster clears so the ult regen build is BiS or a healer arguing with me when I ask that they should make room on their bar for combat prayer or elemental drain.
Play as you want but that doesn't mean everything is equally strong. I don't half-butt anything in my life. I take pride in my work and being the absolute best at everything I do. It's not rude to ask group members to approach challenging group content the same way.3 -
Cryptical✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lol. I just want to know the logic behind taking a race that has no actual benefits toward the role that they're aiming for, and attempting to mold it into that role. Unless for roleplay reasons. And again, I'm not saying it can't be done. But, it makes no sense. Why intentionally make your life harder (potentially), and make your group's life harder (again potentially)? I don't understand.
Because you don't have to be lebron james in order to play pro basketball. You don't have to be the mostest optimalest bestest-in-slot in order to succeed.
I could argue that intentionally avoiding the challenge of a race that doesn't benefit the class makes you a weaker player than those who tackle and overcome that obstacle.Xbox NA5 -
SantieClaws✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Khajiit she would suggest using the traditional gesture of raising the whiskers, baring the teeth and hissing before running away.
Then come back later and go to the bathroom on their lawn.
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Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭@RuneRelic
Did not get warned by the notification so have no idea.
And yes, you have every right to follow the help or not, all I'm saying is to not call someone rude or act dickish towards people who only want to help and meant good.
All I am saying is...
If you were helping you would have been asked for it beforehand.
You werent asked...so you're lecturing.
Lecturing people gets the response it deserves.Edited by Rune_Relic on November 4, 2016 3:26PMAnything that can be exploited will be exploited2 -
Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
No you have the right to suggest you may be able to improve someone.
And they have the right to say....no thanks.
It is not YOUR group. Thats the ultimately telling point of the statement you are making.Anything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
KramUzibra✭✭✭✭KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
The difference between "tell" and "suggest" is the real point whenever these threads come up.
Essentially the same thing. only one is more polite than the other. Bottom line if your don't want to listen or accept the advice of others then don't be surprised when your kicked.2 -
Stoopid_Nwah✭✭✭✭
You sound like a delight to be in a group with.KramUzibra wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
The difference between "tell" and "suggest" is the real point whenever these threads come up.
Essentially the same thing. only one is more polite than the other. Bottom line if your don't want to listen or accept the advice of others then don't be surprised when your kicked.
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KramUzibra✭✭✭✭Rune_Relic wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
No you have the right to suggest you may be able to improve someone.
And they have the right to say....no thanks.
It is not YOUR group. Thats the ultimately telling point of the statement you are making.
I run dungeons with the same two players, my sister and her boyfriend and we usually use the group finder or pick up a random to help with the dungeon. Soooo it is my group and it is my RIGHT to tell you what you should use. It's your right or the random players right to decide whether or not they listen and if they choose not to then it is my right to tell my sister and her boyfriend to kick him or her because they are unwilling to compromise in order to complete the dungeon.1 -
Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Rule one of online games, it's not anyone's game, it's the developers. Read the agreement you signed if you don't believe me. The poster is correct in that it is their choice to listen to advice but equally if they are being a totaly unreasonable passenger then the group also has every right to give them the boot
If you behave like a spoilt child you cannot complain when the world treats you like one.5 -
AnviOfVai✭✭✭✭✭
✭Of course! if anyone has tips on someones build it is always good to learn from it, especially in groups. Now I am no way the best player out there, I am one of the average gals that likes to PVP. However if I am ever in a group I always take on board what another player is asking for. Luckily I have never been in a group where someone has kicked me because of my build, or the way I play ect. I have had advice given to me, and tips, but no one has ever been rude about it...
If they are rude, leave the group and find another.
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KramUzibra✭✭✭✭Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
You sound like a delight to be in a group with.KramUzibra wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
The difference between "tell" and "suggest" is the real point whenever these threads come up.
Essentially the same thing. only one is more polite than the other. Bottom line if your don't want to listen or accept the advice of others then don't be surprised when your kicked.
I don't get any complaints. in fact I always attempt to be polite to the random in my group especially if we need that person to improve so we can complete the dungeon. I often will craft or gift that player items to help them improve. Iv never had to be a complete butt hole to a player and kick them because they don't want to compromise or accepted the groups advice. Generally players appreciate the help and advice.2 -
CapnPhoton✭✭✭✭✭It depends on the delivery of the message. If its rude and condescending, yeah go away. If it is thoughtful then there is no need to be offended.Xbox One NA Aldmeri Dominion1 -
failkiwib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I give tips in groups but shut up if people don't listen or want to hear it.
O.o that is unless I'm doing the run with my own guildies - I mean if I'm in a dungeon to train a 20cp healer, then they better listen to what I have to say xD2 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
I am not about to debate this point, Khajit Racial passives for Healer just not competitive as other Breton or Altmers..
With new sets it does not mattet a lot about race passives stuff but still count somehow..
You say it is insane. I have proof it isn't. Suboptimal at worst. That's all.
Ok, perhaps you can better prove if how weapon crirical or stamina recovery is affecting healing? Or may be khajit have some hidden healing buff...Edited by Lord_Eomer on November 4, 2016 3:49PM2 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
I am not about to debate this point, Khajit Racial passives for Healer just not competitive as other Breton or Altmers..
With new sets it does not mattet a lot about race passives stuff but still count somehow..
You say it is insane. I have proof it isn't. Suboptimal at worst. That's all.
Ok, perhaps you can better prove if how weapon crirical or stamina recovery is also affecting healing? Or may be khajit have some hidden healing buff...
Healing is something that doesn't require min-maxing in the first place. Even my imperial magplar with 30k magicka often over-heal.0 -
Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
No you have the right to suggest you may be able to improve someone.
And they have the right to say....no thanks.
It is not YOUR group. Thats the ultimately telling point of the statement you are making.
I run dungeons with the same two players, my sister and her boyfriend and we usually use the group finder or pick up a random to help with the dungeon. Soooo it is my group and it is my RIGHT to tell you what you should use. It's your right or the random players right to decide whether or not they listen and if they choose not to then it is my right to tell my sister and her boyfriend to kick him or her because they are unwilling to compromise in order to complete the dungeon.
lmao what the hell are you taking about.
My group
My right.
Are you even listening to yourself ?
I think you should just stick with your sister and boyfriend TBH.Edited by Rune_Relic on November 4, 2016 3:56PMAnything that can be exploited will be exploited12 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
I am not about to debate this point, Khajit Racial passives for Healer just not competitive as other Breton or Altmers..
With new sets it does not mattet a lot about race passives stuff but still count somehow..
You say it is insane. I have proof it isn't. Suboptimal at worst. That's all.
Ok, perhaps you can better prove if how weapon crirical or stamina recovery is also affecting healing? Or may be khajit have some hidden healing buff...
Healing is something that doesn't require min-maxing in the first place. Even my imperial magplar with 30k magicka often over-heal.
I am aware, any race can do healing,
I have said before that they are not best as breton or Altmers..
Its bad for not taking racial passivea advatage,
Some1 said before they are best for healing..
No debate, i am out from this thread..Edited by Lord_Eomer on November 4, 2016 3:56PM0 -
Swomp23✭✭✭✭@Rune_Relic
Hi there. So I don't know you at all, and we can't see your image, so I don't know what kind of advice you received, or even if it was earned. This answer might not apply to you, but let me tell you a little story that happened couple days ago.
So I was in a PUG in normal CoS. Me as DPS around 200 CP, another DPS above me, and a healer at 400 something. The tank was around 60 CP. Was running resto and SnB, but I think he never taunted in the whole damn dungeon. When we asked him to taunt, in voice chat and in written chat, he never replied. When we asked him to engage, he never replied. We didn't kick him, we finished the dungeon with everyone of us taking alternate random aggro (with a couple wipes on Velidreth), but thanks this was just normal difficulty, or we would never have it finished.
My point is, sometimes advices are deserved, even if they are not asked. I'm not saying it is your case, as I don't know you at all. It doesn't seem to be,since you look a lot less noob than myself. Nonetheless, many times people will give them because it will greatly increase the enjoyment of the WHOLE group. You're right, it's not MY group. But it's not YOURS either. People have to stop thinking that they can just head in any competitive group instance, do anything they want, even if it's not helping the group at all, and think that other ppl can't complain.
This is a ''play however you want'' game. In solo overland questing. When you play with other ppl, they have expectations. If you don't answer them, most ppl will kindly give you advices. And if you ruin their fun by screwing around, they have the right to kick you. Once again, it's not just 1 ppl that own the group that will kick you. The whole group has to agree to kick someone.
Just my 2 cents...Edited by Swomp23 on November 4, 2016 4:12PMXBox One - NA6 -
UrQuan✭✭✭✭✭
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Nobody said they are best for healing. Strawman arguments are bad...Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
I am not about to debate this point, Khajit Racial passives for Healer just not competitive as other Breton or Altmers..
With new sets it does not mattet a lot about race passives stuff but still count somehow..
You say it is insane. I have proof it isn't. Suboptimal at worst. That's all.
Ok, perhaps you can better prove if how weapon crirical or stamina recovery is also affecting healing? Or may be khajit have some hidden healing buff...
Healing is something that doesn't require min-maxing in the first place. Even my imperial magplar with 30k magicka often over-heal.
I am aware, any race can do healing,
I have said before that they are not best as breton or Altmers..
Its bad for not taking racial passivea advatage,
Some1 said before they are best for healing..
No debate, i am out from this thread..
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
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Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
I am not about to debate this point, Khajit Racial passives for Healer just not competitive as other Breton or Altmers..
With new sets it does not mattet a lot about race passives stuff but still count somehow..
You say it is insane. I have proof it isn't. Suboptimal at worst. That's all.
Ok, perhaps you can better prove if how weapon crirical or stamina recovery is affecting healing? Or may be khajit have some hidden healing buff...
@Lord_Dexter I had to look this up as well, and apparently there's a hidden passive called "Moon Sugar Addiction" or "M.S.A." And basically what it does is, it gives khajiits a 0.0000001% increased amount of healing done upon consumption of moon sugar. It also jacks them up, and increases all of their actions performed 10x upon use of said sugars. :P0 -
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✭✭Cant open picture.
Depends how he told you to play ofc.
But if it was a veteran dungeon, I understand when someone gives tips or telling a better way to play, since the dungeon are hard, and require more sometimes then just "play as you want".
To sum up:
Dont queue as a tank if you dont taunt.
Dont queue as a healer if you dont heal, but rather spamming jesus beam.
Dont queue as a dd, if you have seriously low dps and no rotation at all.PC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact
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Stoopid_Nwah✭✭✭✭
Your attitude makes me cringe. I don't really care if you know two others in the group, it is still just a group that you are a part of. So sure, you can offer advice or tips in a polite manner and crafting gear for others is very nice, but forcing your sister and her bf into kicking randoms that don't bend to your will...sounds like you need to take a deep breath and chill out. It's just a game.KramUzibra wrote: »Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
You sound like a delight to be in a group with.KramUzibra wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
The difference between "tell" and "suggest" is the real point whenever these threads come up.
Essentially the same thing. only one is more polite than the other. Bottom line if your don't want to listen or accept the advice of others then don't be surprised when your kicked.
I don't get any complaints. in fact I always attempt to be polite to the random in my group especially if we need that person to improve so we can complete the dungeon. I often will craft or gift that player items to help them improve. Iv never had to be a complete butt hole to a player and kick them because they don't want to compromise or accepted the groups advice. Generally players appreciate the help and advice.
I can agree that it's not the most fun when there are dps group members that just light attack, tanks that don't use taunts, or healers that just put down blood altar, but telling someone they're wrong and need to change this and that or you'll kick them...that's a jerk move, sorry. Just use zone chat or something to hand select group members, because if you're going to use group finder, I always say to hope for the best but prepare to cover for the players who aren't as experienced.
Also, I sure hope you, yourself, have some vmol clears and stormproof with BiS gear to back up your elitist mentality.
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You should read post # 12, i am sure direct or indirect way of writing shld not be an issue..
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Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
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KramUzibra✭✭✭✭Rune_Relic wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
No you have the right to suggest you may be able to improve someone.
And they have the right to say....no thanks.
It is not YOUR group. Thats the ultimately telling point of the statement you are making.
I run dungeons with the same two players, my sister and her boyfriend and we usually use the group finder or pick up a random to help with the dungeon. Soooo it is my group and it is my RIGHT to tell you what you should use. It's your right or the random players right to decide whether or not they listen and if they choose not to then it is my right to tell my sister and her boyfriend to kick him or her because they are unwilling to compromise in order to complete the dungeon.
lmao what the hell are you taking about.
My group
My right.
Are you even listening to yourself ?
I think you should just stick with your sister and boyfriend TBH.
I don't have any problems with randoms. I never had but if a player comes along and is unwilling to compromise with my group in order to complete the dungeon the logical solution would be to kick them and pick up another player. Also I'm not incorrect when I say my group or my right. JUST like it's the random players right to accept the advice or leave.0 -
UrQuan✭✭✭✭✭
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So somehow in your head that's the same as saying they're the best choice for healing? How in the hell did you make that leap? That statement says nothing other than that they're viable for trials... Anything else that you chose to infer from it is just something that you made up in order to argue against.Lord_Dexter wrote: »You should read post # 12, i am sure direct or indirect way of writing shld not be an issue..
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Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
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Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp5 -
KramUzibra✭✭✭✭Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
Your attitude makes me cringe. I don't really care if you know two others in the group, it is still just a group that you are a part of. So sure, you can offer advice or tips in a polite manner and crafting gear for others is very nice, but forcing your sister and her bf into kicking randoms that don't bend to your will...sounds like you need to take a deep breath and chill out. It's just a game.KramUzibra wrote: »Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
You sound like a delight to be in a group with.KramUzibra wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
The difference between "tell" and "suggest" is the real point whenever these threads come up.
Essentially the same thing. only one is more polite than the other. Bottom line if your don't want to listen or accept the advice of others then don't be surprised when your kicked.
I don't get any complaints. in fact I always attempt to be polite to the random in my group especially if we need that person to improve so we can complete the dungeon. I often will craft or gift that player items to help them improve. Iv never had to be a complete butt hole to a player and kick them because they don't want to compromise or accepted the groups advice. Generally players appreciate the help and advice.
I can agree that it's not the most fun when there are dps group members that just light attack, tanks that don't use taunts, or healers that just put down blood altar, but telling someone they're wrong and need to change this and that or you'll kick them...that's a jerk move, sorry. Just use zone chat or something to hand select group members, because if you're going to use group finder, I always say to hope for the best but prepare to cover for the players who aren't as experienced.
Also, I sure hope you, yourself, have some vmol clears and stormproof with BiS gear to back up your elitist mentality.
Lol "cringe" me my sister and her bf have the same goal in mind and that's completing the content. I never have to force them to kick they are more than willing to. majority rule especially with the current grouping system so if you want to get along you better go along. I don't see what's so wrong with my logic I never go out of my way to be rude or hateful. The reality of the situation is if you're not performing adequately and unwilling to compromise or accept the advice of the group then logically you should be kicked. Facts don't care about your feelings. sorry if that's a little rough or mean.3 -
KingRegis✭✭I was playing this couple of PUGs for a few hours and we were farming everything and anything I got something one of them wanted but and start talking s**t down the Mic he wanted me to trade it to him and I said no so he start spurting out go die of many diseases I won't name the specific diseases but they were the worst of the worst at the time I thought it would be funny to let my GF listen to him so I put her on the mic and she starts speaking to him the Lad then starts stutterering while putting out a mass aray of insult at us it was the funniest thing is heard how someone can think their big and hard but in a couple of seconds go from confident to UnconfidentI am Regis Solis the wandering warrior socerer2 -
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So somehow in your head that's the same as saying they're the best choice for healing? How in the hell did you make that leap? That statement says nothing other than that they're viable for trials... Anything else that you chose to infer from it is just something that you made up in order to argue against.Lord_Dexter wrote: »You should read post # 12, i am sure direct or indirect way of writing shld not be an issue..
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Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
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I can not understand you and your arguments,
Trial is end game contents, mentioning khajit as top Healer in trial is something that they are perhaps good at (as per that post)..i can not debate with you, i just had mentioned that point and you started debating and flaming ...
I just wanted not to participate any more in this thread..Edited by Lord_Eomer on November 4, 2016 4:28PM0 -
Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
No you have the right to suggest you may be able to improve someone.
And they have the right to say....no thanks.
It is not YOUR group. Thats the ultimately telling point of the statement you are making.
I run dungeons with the same two players, my sister and her boyfriend and we usually use the group finder or pick up a random to help with the dungeon. Soooo it is my group and it is my RIGHT to tell you what you should use. It's your right or the random players right to decide whether or not they listen and if they choose not to then it is my right to tell my sister and her boyfriend to kick him or her because they are unwilling to compromise in order to complete the dungeon.
lmao what the hell are you taking about.
My group
My right.
Are you even listening to yourself ?
I think you should just stick with your sister and boyfriend TBH.
I don't have any problems with randoms. I never had but if a player comes along and is unwilling to compromise with my group in order to complete the dungeon the logical solution would be to kick them and pick up another player. Also I'm not incorrect when I say my group or my right. JUST like it's the random players right to accept the advice or leave.KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »KramUzibra wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »Mine says page cant be reached. And I agree to that said but, I also disagree with some of that mentality. If you bluntly tell someone "Hey your build is wrong, do this this this and this or you're a skrub" then I completely agree to tell them to go take a walk and come back when I have the patience. But if someone actually tries to help you? Like "Hey, you know you can do this for a higher health" or "Mind if I suggest this set and you take a look at it see if you like it?" then I disagree with your mentality. Because no one gets good by themselves, you'll need help at some point.
Hhhmm! So how did the 1st players clear hardmode dungeons ?
Who taught them what to do and when ?
No.
There really isnt any excuse to be telling anyone what they should and should not be doing unless you were asked for advice.
Whether you choose to give any advice is of course upto you.Some people like to figure stuff out for themselves
Wrong If your in my group and not preforming adequately then I absolutely have an excuse to tell you or suggest playing your class/build a certain way that may be more effective for whatever content we as a group are attempting to accomplish.
No you have the right to suggest you may be able to improve someone.
And they have the right to say....no thanks.
It is not YOUR group. Thats the ultimately telling point of the statement you are making.
I run dungeons with the same two players, my sister and her boyfriend and we usually use the group finder or pick up a random to help with the dungeon. Soooo it is my group and it is my RIGHT to tell you what you should use. It's your right or the random players right to decide whether or not they listen and if they choose not to then it is my right to tell my sister and her boyfriend to kick him or her because they are unwilling to compromise in order to complete the dungeon.
lmao what the hell are you taking about.
My group
My right.
Are you even listening to yourself ?
I think you should just stick with your sister and boyfriend TBH.
I don't have any problems with randoms. I never had but if a player comes along and is unwilling to compromise with my group in order to complete the dungeon the logical solution would be to kick them and pick up another player. Also I'm not incorrect when I say my group or my right. JUST like it's the random players right to accept the advice or leave.
Mate. You have already told us how your regime operates.
Any new player will do what they're told and if they dont they will be kicked.
Not only that.....group consensus is irrelevant because...
..you TOLD you sister and boyfriend to kick people.
Your definition of compromise is apparently..
..my way or the highway.
I run dungeons with the same two players, my sister and her boyfriend and we usually use the group finder or pick up a random to help with the dungeon. Soooo it is my group and it is my RIGHT to tell you what you should use. It's your right or the random players right to decide whether or not they listen and if they choose not to then it is my right to tell my sister and her boyfriend to kick him or her because they are unwilling to compromise in order to complete the dungeon.Edited by Rune_Relic on November 4, 2016 4:28PMAnything that can be exploited will be exploited9 -
Woeler✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
I am not about to debate this point, Khajit Racial passives for Healer just not competitive as other Breton or Altmers..
With new sets it does not mattet a lot about race passives stuff but still count somehow..
You say it is insane. I have proof it isn't. Suboptimal at worst. That's all.
Ok, perhaps you can better prove if how weapon crirical or stamina recovery is affecting healing? Or may be khajit have some hidden healing buff...Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
Current world #1 Sanctum Ophidia and #1 Hel Ra Citadel have a khajiit healer and a khajiit tank in the team. Just sayin.
I am not about to debate this point, Khajit Racial passives for Healer just not competitive as other Breton or Altmers..
With new sets it does not mattet a lot about race passives stuff but still count somehow..
You say it is insane. I have proof it isn't. Suboptimal at worst. That's all.
Ok, perhaps you can better prove if how weapon crirical or stamina recovery is also affecting healing? Or may be khajit have some hidden healing buff...
Healing is something that doesn't require min-maxing in the first place. Even my imperial magplar with 30k magicka often over-heal.
I am aware, any race can do healing,
I have said before that they are not best as breton or Altmers..
Its bad for not taking racial passivea advatage,
Some1 said before they are best for healing..
No debate, i am out from this thread..
No I did not. I said the top hel ra and sanctum scores have a kahjiit healer and a khajiit tank. Never did I say they are the best race for healin nor did I ever state their passives benefit healing. I'm simply stating that your claim that "healing with a khajiit is insane" is total nonsense. You just refuse to read.
Dar'Jhorran = Khajiit healer
Woeler = Khajiit tankEdited by Woeler on November 4, 2016 4:36PM2