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Still no auction house, seriously??

Pallmor
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I just came back to ESO after having been off playing Neverwinter for a long time, and I forgot the most annoying aspect of this game: no auction house. So I'm sitting on a pile of purple and gold loot with no way to sell it unless I find a trade guild.

I forgot how much it SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS to play an MMO without an auction house, or any sort of decent trade system for us casual players to sell our stuff. Guess I'll have to sell my rare motifs, recipes, and sets to a freaking vendor for 17 gold. Woo hoo!!

Well, a least ESO finally got events--after just 2.5 years. Maybe by sometime in 2020, they'll add an option for us to trade stuff too.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Look! Another Auction House thread!
  • alexkdd99
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    There is multiple ways to trade stuff. Trade button with people in towns, cod, join a guild. Now that I have told you how to trade you can finally sell your stuff.
  • Reverb
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    The majority of eso players do just fine with the existing trade system (especially since zeni stopped sabotaging bids with the maintenance time). The majority of people who want an AH just because they're used to it from other games and don't want to adapt to a different structure.

    I like most of the ways that ESO chooses to differentiate themselves from mmo generica - the guild stores instead of auction house, the lack of player inspection, the decision (so far) not to put advantage-giving weapons and gear in tbe cash shop.

    L2Adapt
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I'd bet that housing will have traders.
    There seems to never gonna be an global auction house which is good but housing trader is the way to go as they already said we can allow ppl to visit our homes and it's in-game gold even larger stuff like guild houses

    I have to believe that because some of the devs came from a old game Dark age of camelot where housing had vendors that sold player listed items, this is how it'll be introduced if it happens.
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    I just came back to ESO after having been off playing Neverwinter for a long time, and I forgot the most annoying aspect of this game: no auction house. So I'm sitting on a pile of purple and gold loot with no way to sell it unless I find a trade guild.

    I forgot how much it SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS to play an MMO without an auction house, or any sort of decent trade system for us casual players to sell our stuff. Guess I'll have to sell my rare motifs, recipes, and sets to a freaking vendor for 17 gold. Woo hoo!!

    Well, a least ESO finally got events--after just 2.5 years. Maybe by sometime in 2020, they'll add an option for us to trade stuff too.

    Maybe l2p, it is very easy to make gold regardless of trade guilds - as others have already said, trade in zone or w/e

    A lot of players are not remotely interested in auction houses.
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  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    The vast majority of the player base DOES NOT WANT AN AUCTION HOUSE!! quit trying to make ESO like every other MMO.
  • Pallmor
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    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    There is multiple ways to trade stuff. Trade button with people in towns, cod, join a guild. Now that I have told you how to trade you can finally sell your stuff.

    Yeah, I'll stand on a street corner in Mournhold spamming chat with dozens of items for the next week or so. That's way better than any auction house.
  • Pallmor
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    Reverb wrote: »
    The majority of eso players do just fine with the existing trade system (especially since zeni stopped sabotaging bids with the maintenance time). The majority of people who want an AH just because they're used to it from other games and don't want to adapt to a different structure.

    I like most of the ways that ESO chooses to differentiate themselves from mmo generica - the guild stores instead of auction house, the lack of player inspection, the decision (so far) not to put advantage-giving weapons and gear in tbe cash shop.

    L2Adapt

    Did it ever occur to you that the reason that other MMO's have auction houses is that they work and players like them?
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    The majority of eso players do just fine with the existing trade system (especially since zeni stopped sabotaging bids with the maintenance time). The majority of people who want an AH just because they're used to it from other games and don't want to adapt to a different structure.

    I like most of the ways that ESO chooses to differentiate themselves from mmo generica - the guild stores instead of auction house, the lack of player inspection, the decision (so far) not to put advantage-giving weapons and gear in tbe cash shop.

    L2Adapt

    Did it ever occur to you that the reason that other MMO's have auction houses is that they work and players like them?

    I'd actually have to disagree with you there.

    They don't work, they just are what you want cause you don't like the system this game offers.
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  • Reverb
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    The majority of eso players do just fine with the existing trade system (especially since zeni stopped sabotaging bids with the maintenance time). The majority of people who want an AH just because they're used to it from other games and don't want to adapt to a different structure.

    I like most of the ways that ESO chooses to differentiate themselves from mmo generica - the guild stores instead of auction house, the lack of player inspection, the decision (so far) not to put advantage-giving weapons and gear in tbe cash shop.

    L2Adapt

    Did it ever occur to you that the reason that other MMO's have auction houses is that they work and players like them?

    There are other ways. If all MMOs were the same, what would be the point in anyone ever developing a new game? Either stick with the one game you have latched onto as "right", or learn to adapt.
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  • spectre303
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    If you can't be bothered to learn and use the trading system the rest of us do just fine with, then you don't deserve more for your items then the vendor will give you. If you are that lazy then learn to be happy being broke. Join a trade guild and sell your stuff already, whats the problem?
    Edited by spectre303 on November 4, 2016 2:26AM
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  • Woeler
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    Auction houses are boring.
  • rager82b14_ESO
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    I want a AH also, also it is not very fair to say most people don't want it. We don't know that is true or not. I just hate guild systems like this, and I hate not having a global ah.
  • kargen27
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    There is multiple ways to trade stuff. Trade button with people in towns, cod, join a guild. Now that I have told you how to trade you can finally sell your stuff.

    Yeah, I'll stand on a street corner in Mournhold spamming chat with dozens of items for the next week or so. That's way better than any auction house.

    There ya go, that's the spirit. No need for an easily manipulated auction house when you can just sell what you want when you want for an agreed to price without worry of outside price influences.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • rager82b14_ESO
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    Pallmor wrote: »
    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    There is multiple ways to trade stuff. Trade button with people in towns, cod, join a guild. Now that I have told you how to trade you can finally sell your stuff.

    Yeah, I'll stand on a street corner in Mournhold spamming chat with dozens of items for the next week or so. That's way better than any auction house.

    There ya go, that's the spirit. No need for an easily manipulated auction house when you can just sell what you want when you want for an agreed to price without worry of outside price influences.

    That is stupid, MMOS having taken steps forward from tedious dull elements such as this. We accept the AH system like this. Does not mean we like it. Not having a global AH is one of the major flaws of this game for many people.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    Pallmor wrote: »
    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    There is multiple ways to trade stuff. Trade button with people in towns, cod, join a guild. Now that I have told you how to trade you can finally sell your stuff.

    Yeah, I'll stand on a street corner in Mournhold spamming chat with dozens of items for the next week or so. That's way better than any auction house.

    There ya go, that's the spirit. No need for an easily manipulated auction house when you can just sell what you want when you want for an agreed to price without worry of outside price influences.

    That is stupid, MMOS having taken steps forward from tedious dull elements such as this. We accept the AH system like this. Does not mean we like it. Not having a global AH is one of the major flaws of this game for many people.

    And yet many of us, including myself are super rich >:)

    OP is just stubborn and will not adapt, then whines on forums for being poor, his problem.

    With OT, arguably it has been easier making gold.

    And feeling forced to vendor rare recipes, motifs etc, just highlights to a laughable level OP`s lack of skill trading.
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  • Grymmoire
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    Look! Another Auction House thread!
    And why not, the current system is just one big time sink.
    I'd bet that housing will have traders.
    There seems to never gonna be an global auction house which is good but housing trader is the way to go as they already said we can allow ppl to visit our homes and it's in-game gold even larger stuff like guild houses *snippped*
    Oh wonderful! Now instead of just spending hours visiting each area with the Guild run vendors, we can spend potentially more countlesshours visiting virtually thousands of individual player vendors; just how I wanted to spend my game time.
    The vast majority of the player base DOES NOT WANT AN AUCTION HOUSE!! quit trying to make ESO like every other MMO.
    And you KNOW the 'vast majority' does not want an AH how again? Oh, yes, you found it in the the dark recesses of absurdity.
    Adding just the convenience of an AH to ESO, would hardly make it 'like every other MMO'.

  • rager82b14_ESO
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    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    kargen27 wrote: »
    Pallmor wrote: »
    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    There is multiple ways to trade stuff. Trade button with people in towns, cod, join a guild. Now that I have told you how to trade you can finally sell your stuff.

    Yeah, I'll stand on a street corner in Mournhold spamming chat with dozens of items for the next week or so. That's way better than any auction house.

    There ya go, that's the spirit. No need for an easily manipulated auction house when you can just sell what you want when you want for an agreed to price without worry of outside price influences.

    That is stupid, MMOS having taken steps forward from tedious dull elements such as this. We accept the AH system like this. Does not mean we like it. Not having a global AH is one of the major flaws of this game for many people.

    And yet many of us, including myself are super rich >:)

    OP is just stubborn and will not adapt, then whines on forums for being poor, his problem.

    With OT, arguably it has been easier making gold.

    And feeling forced to vendor rare recipes, motifs etc, just highlights to a laughable level OP`s lack of skill trading.


    Rich because you like doing tedious elements? Good job, or lucky to find a decent guild store. I mean you are attacking the guy calling him lazy just because he does not like this bad AH system.

    Sorry, but you are acting like a tool. You can not agree with him all you want, but to assume he is lazy because he does not like, and MANY of us don't like this AH system. That is childish.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    SHADOW2KK wrote: »
    kargen27 wrote: »
    Pallmor wrote: »
    alexkdd99 wrote: »
    There is multiple ways to trade stuff. Trade button with people in towns, cod, join a guild. Now that I have told you how to trade you can finally sell your stuff.

    Yeah, I'll stand on a street corner in Mournhold spamming chat with dozens of items for the next week or so. That's way better than any auction house.

    There ya go, that's the spirit. No need for an easily manipulated auction house when you can just sell what you want when you want for an agreed to price without worry of outside price influences.

    That is stupid, MMOS having taken steps forward from tedious dull elements such as this. We accept the AH system like this. Does not mean we like it. Not having a global AH is one of the major flaws of this game for many people.

    And yet many of us, including myself are super rich >:)

    OP is just stubborn and will not adapt, then whines on forums for being poor, his problem.

    With OT, arguably it has been easier making gold.

    And feeling forced to vendor rare recipes, motifs etc, just highlights to a laughable level OP`s lack of skill trading.


    Rich because you like doing tedious elements? Good job, or lucky to find a decent guild store. I mean you are attacking the guy calling him lazy just because he does not like this bad AH system.

    Sorry, but you are acting like a tool. You can not agree with him all you want, but to assume he is lazy because he does not like, and MANY of us don't like this AH system. That is childish.

    Actually I am rich because I know what I am doing, there are multiple easy ways of making gold legit in the game, and many of them are not that tedious.

    I am not attacking anyone, just calling a spade a spade, OP is factually whining about vendoring rare recipes blah blah to a vendor instead of learning how to trade, its a observation, not an attack, you just view it as an attack, as you side with his viewpoint.

    I am acting like a tool? oh and just before you were accusing me of attacking OP ? hmmm pot kettle much?

    And its not an assumption saying OP is lazy, its a fact, if he cannot learn or have the time to trade properly and make multi millions, then the onus is on him, then worse, coming on forums and sparking off a controversial topic, while salting it with lines with the gist of oh I have to vendor rare blah blahs and oh spend hours trying to sell.

    It is painfully obvious, OP has no clue how to trade, its a acquired skill.

    So again, hardly an attack.

    And maybe be sure of your perceived facts regarding AH, saying many do want it, is deniable, whereas going by the fact that a very small minority actually come to the forums, and a lot of them going by previous threads on this very subject, the main thrust of player opinions has been of a big resounding no to AH.

    Never mind that some of us in the game are networked with big guilds, or a fair amount of people, and maybe some of them hate it too, I am sure ZoS could assess a high probably percentage of exactly how much players want a AH.

    So to wrap it up, it is a bit childish on your part assuming things about myself :p
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  • Katahdin
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    Nope and there wont be.

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  • rager82b14_ESO
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    ...you assume a lot about people, and than say I assume about you. You called the guy lazy and clueless. I am sorry, but I am the type of person who don't judge others just because they don't like something. I don't like the Ah system. Many reasons why many other mmos don't use this system. I understand why people enjoy it, but I don't. That is it. The people saying, get good l2p all this stuff is childish, just like your comment of calling a spade a spade was.


    That is not how we should treat each other. If we don't agree with each other that is fine. However, what you and some other people did was just being childish.
    Edited by rager82b14_ESO on November 4, 2016 1:59AM
  • SHADOW2KK
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    ...you assume a lot about people, and than say I assume about you. You called the guy lazy and clueless. I am sorry, but I am the type of person who don't judge others just because they don't like something. I don't like the Ah system. Many reasons why many other mmos don't use this system. I understand why people enjoy it, but I don't. That is it. The people saying, get good l2p all this stuff is childish, just like your comment of calling a spade a spade was.


    That is not how we should treat each other. If we don't agree with each other that is fine. However, what you and some other people did was just being childish.

    l2quote :p

    Facts speak for themselves, the OP has no skill in trading, not an attack, just fact, and it is not bad pointing it out, as others have already said in varying ways, all means the same thing.

    And saying a spade is a spade is arguably way more diplomatic than some other comments, and if you are not the type to judge others then why say I am a tool?

    Your logic is completely flawed, let me explain, for you to call me a tool, then pass it off as you do not judge, is ludicrous, as the very fact that you called me a tool is because you judged, so at least honour what you said.

    And what myself and others have said, all says the same thing, if the OP has been here since release, and still does clearly not know how to trade, then I ask you, what is the best way of giving advice or w/e in a politically correct way going to be?

    Because entitlement and laziness and a lack to put the work in to learn trade craft fairly drips off OPs post.

    That is fact.

    But never mind, at least none of us called OP a tool, like someone I can mention.

    And assumptions are based on personal thoughts, you are as guilty of it as I am, but thing is, my thoughts are based on fact.
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  • phairdon
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    The vast majority of the player base DOES NOT WANT AN AUCTION HOUSE!! quit trying to make ESO like every other MMO.

    Really? Got the numbers to prove this?

    @Pallmor Highly unlikely this game will ever feature an auction house. Probably better chance of winning the top prize in your local lottery.
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  • Hluill
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    At least give me some kinda global search so I don't have to spend hours looking for materials.

    And now that they have all these freakin' dropped sets, why can't I search for those?

    "Nah, your time is better spent wayshrine hopping to all these freakin' traders using those freakin' drop-downs. Quit whinin' or just go back to WoW."

    ~laughs~

    Yeah all those other games global trade systems are broken and don't work.
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  • phairdon
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    Hluill wrote: »
    At least give me some kinda global search so I don't have to spend hours looking for materials.

    And now that they have all these freakin' dropped sets, why can't I search for those?

    "Nah, your time is better spent wayshrine hopping to all these freakin' traders using those freakin' drop-downs. Quit whinin' or just go back to WoW."

    ~laughs~

    Yeah all those other games global trade systems are broken and don't work.

    Yes! A global search function would be fantastic.
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  • SanSan
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    I prefer it to be without an auction house.
    Feels more better this way because you get to have a trade guild and talk with them.
    Auction house is pretty boring. Put item, price, and walk away.
    With trade guild i can trade my item for another item, ask them about (x) item, ask them for help, make new friends, etc.
    If you're too lazy to go look for a trade guild then just NPC those items i guess.
    It's not hard to find a trade guild but it is easy to make a forum on here and complain.
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Reverb wrote: »
    The majority of eso players do just fine with the existing trade system (especially since zeni stopped sabotaging bids with the maintenance time). The majority of people who want an AH just because they're used to it from other games and don't want to adapt to a different structure.

    I like most of the ways that ESO chooses to differentiate themselves from mmo generica - the guild stores instead of auction house, the lack of player inspection, the decision (so far) not to put advantage-giving weapons and gear in tbe cash shop.

    L2Adapt

    And what is a majority? How can you possibly speak on behalf of "the majority"?

    If you cant make a comment without making things up. You should probably not make the comment.
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  • radiostar
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    Ya, they won't even add a dedicated Trade Channel. If you can't find a guild with trader, you just vendor or zone chat (where you're told not to spam).

    But let anything come out on the Crown Store and Z spams that up at you when you log on. LOL :smiley: They know how to use an AH for themselves, that's for sure.
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  • spectre303
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    Hmm, maybe this is a platform problem.

    On PC, add-ons help with searching and generally shopping is a painless process. Its easy to filter down to the things you're after and hunt for random bargains. It occurs to me that on a console I would probably be annoyed by the vanilla interface a bit as well.

    That said I managed just fine my first year without an add on.
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    This system sure is different but what's better about it? I've disliked it and the trading guild system it spawned with all the lottery crap they have just to be able to afford bidding for spots that don't suck.
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