Azuramoonstar wrote: »This thread has got to be a troll thread.
why? because a new player to eso is asking questions?
and asking for details from one sentence remarks that don't say anything?
care to explain how I'm trolling?
All i'm doing is asking questions, and just recently explained my personal experience in a previous mmo.
just trying to learn how ESO works.. not trolling
but care to tell me how i'm trolling?
Azuramoonstar wrote: »
Your question might be thought as trolling because it doesn't make any sense!
If you said you played other Elder Scrolls, then you must know that abililties fit to the weapons!
A bow is as advertised, is to shoot things, thus making it not for healing
Also all healing abilities in the game except of one are magicka and not Stamina based (not to be confused with the self-return healing from some abilities or self-healing). With that being said, all healers in the game must be magicka based. And Bow is a weapon ability that is scaled of your max stamina (Such information is available in the description of each ability and tree line)
Further more to it, a class like templar is mostly excelled for healing has all healing abilities based on magicka, with that max magicka and Spell damage determine the efficiency of the casted heals.
Finally the race isn't the deciding factor for your gaming career in ESO, but if you are aiming for high endgame Content it becomes essential (due to the class passives and what they offer in combat).
As a suggestion, create a character, start doing quests and such, learn the game a bit, and then decide how you want to progress with it. Leveling a character from 1-50 doesn’t take any time…
PaddoPaulus wrote: »The Nightblade has passive skills that work well with stealth attacks and so does a Wood Elf
Why did you choose Wood Elf, Faster bow experience?
U should figure out how you want to play first and then decide on a char that fits that description.
And stop thinking about TES and start thinking ESO, they are 2 very different games.
Btw if your going Max stamina then your class won't matter so much.
Azuramoonstar wrote: »PaddoPaulus wrote: »The Nightblade has passive skills that work well with stealth attacks and so does a Wood Elf
Why did you choose Wood Elf, Faster bow experience?
U should figure out how you want to play first and then decide on a char that fits that description.
And stop thinking about TES and start thinking ESO, they are 2 very different games.
Btw if your going Max stamina then your class won't matter so much.
i did try the game, and my characters outside a bald imperial in tes morrowind have been wood elf.
and i tried night blade didn't like it.. its based on TES assassin class not really night blade, TES in night blade was a mage with a sword
how are TES and eso different?
hayaschwarz wrote: »Azuramoonstar wrote: »PaddoPaulus wrote: »The Nightblade has passive skills that work well with stealth attacks and so does a Wood Elf
Why did you choose Wood Elf, Faster bow experience?
U should figure out how you want to play first and then decide on a char that fits that description.
And stop thinking about TES and start thinking ESO, they are 2 very different games.
Btw if your going Max stamina then your class won't matter so much.
i did try the game, and my characters outside a bald imperial in tes morrowind have been wood elf.
and i tried night blade didn't like it.. its based on TES assassin class not really night blade, TES in night blade was a mage with a sword
how are TES and eso different?
They based the Story and some of the Basics like freeplay on usual TES, but everything else is a whole new game. Also it is here an MMO with PvP and PvE, and that's what makes the difference!
PaddoPaulus wrote: »If you are going to keep talking about other games then u are in the wrong part of the forums and obviously don't need any help.
Azuramoonstar wrote: »I used to think the same way, because I had no clue, that I could more efficiently utilize my stamina as a healer for blocking or dodging. So I thought: "Why not use a bow to use every resource I got?"
A very bad Idea, that was even worth mentioning in this thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/comment/3345582/#Comment_3345582
was gonna put points in both.
don't really get the issue, that's why i'm asking for explanation.
Azuramoonstar wrote: »Not really a good first impression, this game is set up where any race, can be any class, which can use any weapon, and ware any armore type.
Azuramoonstar wrote: »mainly pve
I'm still pretty new got the game in September made a few trial character to get the hang of it, then took a break from the game till OT was out.
This is technically true. The problem people often don't realize? Just because it's possible, doesn't mean it's effective. Some builds are great, some average, and some are utter crap. You can run around naked with nothing but a resto staff if you want, but don't expect to be a competent damage dealer.Azuramoonstar wrote: »I was asking questions because I am an avid TES player and ESO was advertised as a multiplayer ES game being able to play as any class, any race with any weapon and any armor type.
Azuramoonstar wrote: »Thanks to those who actually helped. Sorry for my rude post. I was getting anxiety from the negative comments and the troll witch-hunt comments because of the negativity around a troll on the internet (someone being argumentative for the sake of attention). I get anxiety easily due to having autism spectrum disorder (and no im not playing victim or using it as a crutch) and wasn't trying to come off negative, but it sucks being new and being called a troll for asking questions. I was asking questions because I am an avid TES player and ESO was advertised as a multiplayer ES game being able to play as any class, any race with any weapon and any armor type. My previous experience was FF14 (in recent memory) was very rigid where your class was based on your weapon and had a set armor that only that class could wear. And people on FF14 complained about lack of customization.
So I'm asking questions cause I am new, I don't know the community, and I don't know what is up-to-date on this game due to it being roughly 3yrs old, wasn't popular (at least at first) and recently did a major change, and was making sure what was being said was the meta of the community or how the game works. I ask this cause you start with a greatsword (in the tutorial) no matter the class and can equip any armor while going through the cold harbor intro. So it is confusing based on what the game dishes out to you at first and what the community wants.
I'm also kinda curious, how do you stat out a tank? do you go full health, health/stamina or full stamina? cause based on what i saw, dragonknight skills had magicka cost at first and morphed into costing stamina. And the game didnt specify if a skill scaled with magicka or stamina, just that it cost a certain amount.
I'm asking these questions cause this game doesn't come with a manual on how skill scaling works. stuff isn't easy to find because most people say "google it" (in my experience) and like i said, I don't know what is up-to-date because people don't provide links; again, in past experiences with ff14 and Neverwinter. Moreso in Neverwinter cause it had a similar customization.
The reason I listed other games is to help me understand the systems I have questions about by comparing it to my past experiences because all mmo have similarities.
Again thanks for the help to those who actually helped me, If anyone can answer my tank question on stats it would be much appreciated I'm just trying to learn the game based off what the devs said and advertised vs how the community plays which isn't exactly the same.
And for those who thought i was a troll, please try not to do troll witch hunts. Not everyone who asks questions is a troll and it can be seen as a negative welcome being labeled as a troll when you are coming in fresh into a game that has been out for a while; more-so a game that isn't very popular and doesn't have a lot of information about it without heavy searching and not a lot of people know what to search for and what is considered up-to-date.
Thanks again I hope you guys understand now. I'm not trying to be a troll. I'm just trying to learn. Have a good day
OP - to give you an explanation from the basics of how ESO works:
Every skill in the game is scaled based on either stamina or magicka (excluding a few caveats that depend on health). By 'scale' I'm referring to both their cost (which depends on your cost reduction investment in that stat pool, and indirectly your regeneration of that pool) and the magnitude of their healing/damage (which depends on both the size of your relevant stat pool and your spell & weapon damage for magicka and stamina skills, respectively). Furthermore stamina and magicka skills also use different critical ratings - weapon and spell crit.
The issue that you will have using bow for healing are as follows:
- To do any reasonable damage with your bow skills, you will have to invest in maximum stamina, weapon crit and weapon damage
- To provide any reasonable healing with your heals, you will have to invest in maximum magicka, stamina crit and spell damage
- To sustain your use of bow attacks, you will have to invest in stamina cost reduction & stamina regen
- To sustain your use of heals, you will have to invest in magicka cost reduction & magicka regen
- To heal effectively, you will need to make use of the Restoration Staff skill line - these skills can only be used if you have a resto staff equipped. Templars have a dedicated healing skill line, but even they make use of Restoration staves for effective healing
So by trying to effectively use a bow and effectively heal, you will be forced to reduce the effectiveness of both your bow damage and your healing, relative to what they could be should you invest in only one. Sure, you can get through most overworld solo PvE like this, but you (and your group) will struggle if you attempt to heal dungeons and trials using a setup like this. In fact, so significant is the disparity between the bow-healing pairing and 'pure healing', that I'm afraid you'll find most groups voting to remove you, as you simply can't be as effective as the content requires.
Someone noted above the necessity to use a destruction staff, also - this isn't strictly true. I'm not sure how much you have played, but once you hit level 15 you unlock weapon swapping. As noted above, you will need one of those weapons to be a restoration staff, using resto skills. Many healers choose to use Dual Wield on the other bar, as it (nonsensically) offers greater spell power, simply based on how the game does the calculations. Hence this DW bar tends to contain the big, 'burst' heals that you want to produce the maximum heal possible. The use of a destruction staff tends to be reserved for using the skill Weakness to Elements, which returns resources to your group when they use elemental damage on a target you have debuffed; though some healers do also like to use a destruction staff to provide some additional DPS.
I'm sorry to say it, but despite the 'play how you want' label on the box, there are some combinations that are set-in-stone. This isn't about following the meta, or min/maxing - if you went to the doctor and he wanted to shoot the injections into you with a bow, rather than a needle - you'd ask some questions.
EDIT:
Oh, about your racial choice:
Each race has a trio of passives that provide buffs to your character - Wood Elves are renowned for their high regen (IIRC Wood Elves get +20% stamina regen); evidently this isn't ideal for a healer - magicka regen and maximum magicka would be better passives - see High Elves/Breton/Dunmer. However, this is a min/maxing point. You can absolutely heal most content in the game using a non-ideal race - you'll only start to see some limitations at the highest-end content - even then, if you're seriously good you can heal on any race.