Could you beat vMSA with this build?

Bobby_V_Rockit · October 2016

Let's try this in reverse. Could you complete veteran Maelstrom Arena with my build?

These are my deets-->

Head: Velidreth's guise (reinf)
Shoulders: Velidreth's arm cops (infu)
Chest: TBS (div)
Waist: TBS (div)
Legs: TBS (div)
Arms: TBS (div)
Boots: TBS (div)

All legendary, all mediun, all gold stamina enchantments

Leki's Sword: sharpened, disease
Leki's Dagger: precise, poison
Leki's Bow: nirnhoned, weapon damage

3x Agility: robust, weapon dam

Skill bar 1: blood craze, expert hunter, rapid strikes, hurricane, bound armaments, Flawless Dawnbreaker

Skill bar 2: endless hail, critical surge, poison injection, rearming trap, bound armaments, Shooting Star (pve) reviving barrier (solo)

Champ Points:
Red: 89 elemental defender, 78 hardy, 3 thick skin, 17 quick recovery

Green: 100 warlord, 87 mooncalf

Blue: 89 Mighty, 53 thaum, 35 precise, 10 piercing.

Mag: 10846 (recov: 616)
Health: 17422 (recov: 355)
Stam: 36828 (recov: 981)
Weap dam: 3362
Crit: 74.1%
Spell resist: 11490
Phys resist: 18090
Crit resist: 0

Mundus: Thief and Shadow

I can't get past stage one

The_Protagonist · October 2016

Before you read my input, let me humbly say that I haven't completed vMA yet. So take what I say with a grain of salt.

Your gear setup is very good, and seeing that you are trying veteran difficulty, then I can assume that you have a good understanding of the mechanics?

Perhaps slot more healing/defensive abilities like vigor and purge, it could work, maybe.

The first time I tried MA I had all legendary gear slotted and could not get past the Ice stage (5-TBS, 3-NMG-Head/Shoulder/DW/Bow, Agility-Neck/Rings) but then I started observing and experimenting with mechanics and tried different sets (blue quality) and skill strategies and finally made it through the ice stage with the blue gear.

My take is that mechanical awareness + sustainability along with + good dps and then + excellent gear will take you through.

Honestly MA and vMA (still working on stage 7) is more like a chore to farm sets and weapons for me now, maybe when I get better I could really enjoy and perhaps even try at leaderboards.

Good Luck.

Panth141 · October 2016

To echo some of the previous points - yes, it is doable with your build.

The only change I would want to make is swap out Evil Hunter for Vigor, then use Weapon Crit + stamina (+ health, if you want it) potions and keep them on cooldown - i.e. use them every 45 seconds. Vigor is a really powerful heal, and constantly using those potions will also give you +20% stamina recovery.

If you're struggling with getting insta-gibbed off screen then my general tips would be:

Damage, damage, damage - trash can't hurt you if it's dead
Keep moving - seriously - never stand sill
Make sure that you're using third person (!) and the camera is fully zoomed out; constantly rotate the camera as you move to assess the situation throughout the arena and prioritise targets

Milvan · October 2016

Do you roll dodge? Its very important to put some CP on the tumbling passive and roll dodge away from those arrows and ranged attacks. Your gear is fine.
Using vigor on the first runs is also helpful, since you need extra heal to learn the things out.

Edit: I would use one heavy armor just to boost the health a little bit.

Lukums1 · October 2016

Already done it with this easily...

lol and flawless with almost that exact build.

Brrrofski · October 2016

I completed it with what was worse than that I guess. I did it with 4 nightmother's instead of velidreth and leki's. I replaced the head with bloodspawn for the very last boss.

My bars were slightly different and I had the healing version of rapid strikes.

What's killing you on stage one?

Asmael · October 2016

If you can't pass stage one, the issue is not with the build, because it's more than enough to deal with the first boss. If the issue doesn't come from the build, it comes from something else. Here are a few pointers:

What kills you? Is it a burst of damage, is it damage over time that keeps stacking, is it an issue with a lack of healing...?
Do you run into sustain issues? Do you have trouble killing even basic adds?
Do you know the mechanics?
Do you prepare the fight before it starts? (read: do you use Endless Hail and Rearming trap on the portail before the boss spawns?)
Can you keep your buffs up (especially Hurricane and Surge) at all time?
Do you use potions? If yes, which ones?
Do you have recordings of your attempts?

Hopefully answering those questions should give you a few pointers as to what you could improve. You could be using Vicious Ophidian instead of Lekis weapons and Agility, but this is not a must.

Bobby_V_Rockit · October 2016

It seems to be a situational awareness issue, i.e.: I die to mobs shooting at me from off screen. I do keep crit and hurricane up, rearming trap pretty near constantly and attempt to keep the DoT from bloodcraze up too.

I dont know the mechanics well enough and only use health potions. I was more curious if my build was suitable, I'm ashamedly aware that it was most likely a L2P issue lol. But thanks for confirming! I'll stop grinding for gear and focus on learning soawn pounts and mechanics

DRXHarbinger · October 2016

I'd smash it with that. Easy.

Lukums1 · October 2016

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

It seems to be a situational awareness issue, i.e.: I die to mobs shooting at me from off screen. I do keep crit and hurricane up, rearming trap pretty near constantly and attempt to keep the DoT from bloodcraze up too.

I dont know the mechanics well enough and only use health potions. I was more curious if my build was suitable, I'm ashamedly aware that it was most likely a L2P issue lol. But thanks for confirming! I'll stop grinding for gear and focus on learning soawn pounts and mechanics

I didn't want to say l2p issue but it is BUT that's OK! Maelstrom is hard it is supposed to be hard.

However... I say that tongue and check really... it's hard learning it's hard figuring out HOW TO. But once you get it nailed... man oh man! You'll breeze with your gear.

If you get in trouble, grab the DPS sigil off the bat. When it's out, grab the defensive sigil if you have adds at this point ignore group on boss and burn, in the event you're still going grab the healing ignore adds once again stack and burn no reason you shouldn't get this done.

Wish you best of luck.

Luke

Bobby_V_Rockit · October 2016

I do have a legebdary cuirass of TBS available, and vigour, replenishing barrier, etc. Might put barrier ultimate on bow bar for extra help.

Stoopid_Nwah · October 2016

Honestly just swap in vigor over evil hunter and you'll be fine. Practice, watch videos, etc...

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