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ESO lacking Companions
Ironside
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One of the biggest suprises I have found with ESO is the lack of companions/followers. It is a huge fanbase for skyrim and it is just odd to not see them in ESO. It provides huge depth, more story lines and with the coming housing. They could be staying/guard/whatever the area. You could have instances combat in the housing where the companions fight to defend the land. Heck even SWtor released! 5 years ago with them..,
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Milvan✭✭✭✭✭
✭I didn't like the SWTOR companion thing at all (except for the craft missions, that thing they got it right), really immersion breaking to see a whole army of your companion walking around with other people too.
It would be great if they implement something rare and difficulty to get (Not RNGensus based I mean).“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
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Asardes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Single player games like Skyrim needed follower NPCs because you couldn't play with others. They were a surrogate of sorts, though a bad one. The NPCs would always run ahead, aggro all the mobs, and get promptly killed either by them, or by putting themselves in front of my hard swung sword and getting hit. I tended to leave them home for that reason.
If you are nostalgic about that kind of dumb AI, you can simply use the GF and PuG a dungeon. There are plenty of braindead human players that will always run ahead, aggro all the mobs, get promptly killed by them, or simply stay in the red and get burned or stomped to death. Fortunately there's no friendly fire in this game
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Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |
Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |
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If you are nostalgic about that kind of dumb AI, you can simply use the GF and PuG a dungeon. There are plenty of braindead human players that will always run ahead, aggro all the mobs, get promptly killed by them, or simply stay in the red and get burned or stomped to death. Fortunately there's no friendly fire in this game
“Kings of the land and the sky we are; proud gryphons.” Stalker stands, the epitome of pride. Naked and muscular, his wings widen and his feet dig in as if he alone holds down the earth and supports the heavens, keeping the two ever separate.”
Gryphons guild - @Milvan,0 -
Zypheran✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭In this game, good ideas used by other MMO's go into a magic box. In this box they get kicked, battered, hacked and mutilated and emerge as a useless concept, a mere shadow of the former good idea.
e.g. Good idea(companions)
into the magic box
BASH, BANG, KAPOW!!
we get pets!!!All my housing builds are available on YouTube
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wenchmore420b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They did have "Mercenary Hirelings" you could acquire in Cyrodiil at launch, but that was scraped a long time ago.
No need for companions in a MMO IMO, but with housing coming, maybe a house steward would be kinda cool.
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Asardes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »They did have "Mercenary Hirelings" you could acquire in Cyrodiil at launch, but that was scraped a long time ago.
No need for companions in a MMO IMO, but with housing coming, maybe a house steward would be kinda cool.
Lydia, are you available?
She won't be available until an era and a half would have passed. Maybe her grand-grand-grand-grandma though.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |
Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »They did have "Mercenary Hirelings" you could acquire in Cyrodiil at launch, but that was scraped a long time ago.
No need for companions in a MMO IMO, but with housing coming, maybe a house steward would be kinda cool.
Lydia, are you available?
She won't be available until an era and a half would have passed. Maybe her grand-grand-grand-grandma though.
Hehe. She comes from a long legacy of housecarls, sworn to carry your burdens across the eras.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.3 -
Asardes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »They did have "Mercenary Hirelings" you could acquire in Cyrodiil at launch, but that was scraped a long time ago.
No need for companions in a MMO IMO, but with housing coming, maybe a house steward would be kinda cool.
Lydia, are you available?
She won't be available until an era and a half would have passed. Maybe her grand-grand-grand-grandma though.
Hehe. She comes from a long legacy of housecarls, sworn to carry your burdens across the eras.
The self preservation instinct, or rather the lack thereof seems to be caused by a recent mutation though, because it would have been rooted out long ago by the implacable forces of natural selection. Potential red shirt minded ancestral Lydias would have been mown down by enemies or even the master's sword (when not carrying it) before they had the chance to reproduce
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Characters:
Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |
Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |
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Ironside✭✭✭I get where yhall are coming from, but I still like the idea for ESO companions, but done right. Maybe a customizable model, so they don't all look the same. MMOs need companions as long as players continue to be awful people. Lol. Saying to stop playing is silly because the core questing is a fantastic game and a solo experience if desired. I'd do dungeons solo and have a blast with companion(s). I rarely have a blast with players. TBH.0
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JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I wouldn't care what they looked like. They would still run in front of my attacks, get lost following me, run ahead and agro enemies I'm attempting to snipe from a distance, and otherwise really annoy the crap out of me.
Even the most brain dead clueless noob player isn't quite as bad as the ES single game companions. The most I can say is that at least the ones in Skyrim didn't keep shooting me instead of the enemies. I loathed a couple of the escort quests in Morrowind for that reason. At one point I recall yelling at the screen "Kagouti there; me here; me no kagouti; stop throwing fireballs, dammit!". Didn't help much, of course.
If you play on console, my condolences. If you play on pc/NA, I can give you a few good guilds with people who love to run dungeons/trials/delves/dolmens. I don't usually like grouping for stuff, but I've had a lot of fun running stuff with them.0 -
Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭In this game, good ideas used by other MMO's go into a magic box. In this box they get kicked, battered, hacked and mutilated and emerge as a useless concept, a mere shadow of the former good idea.
e.g. Good idea(companions)
into the magic box
BASH, BANG, KAPOW!!
we get pets!!!
Sounds like the box is working correctly then. No point in companions/followers in an mmo. The ones I've played that have them were poorly implemented, and I hated the fact they were necessary at all.0 -
Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have a merchant that follows me around. Does that count?
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Lumenn✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can think of only one mmo where companions (mercenaries) were "needed" and that was EQ1 where so much of the content needed groups, you were locked into a class, and the population was dying(especially in the early levels) so now you can "solo". (i believe they eventually just let you jump to lvl 80 or so now but haven't been on in years so not sure)
Eso however is still very solo friendly. Yes there are "awful" people but there are others who just want to enjoy the game for the few things you're required to group for.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They tried it....it was bad....no more.
It was a Cyrodil thing waaaay back on PC but maybe different than you're expecting but....Naah I'm ok with what exists cause ppl already scream balance too much-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There's thousands. All called The Vestige.
Do try taking one along with you sometime
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why does anyone think companions are needed in ESO? Haven't found an instance in 30 months that a companion was needed.0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Why does anyone think companions are needed in ESO? Haven't found an instance in 30 months that a companion was needed.
Some ppl are trying to have them build in a way so they don't have to group....some ppl want to play with less than the required group content suggestions.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There used to be a guild for that. I saw it forever ago so I don't remember much...
But their members each had a certain archetype and they could be hired. They would always act in character while performing as a companion.
I thought it was a very interesting concept for a guild.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.2 -
Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭There are "companions". Theyre called Assistants and you only get one free one. Seems they didnt sell so well because ZOS has yet to make any new ones.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i have been asking for companions for a long time.
i even made a thread about it a while ago.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/142447/zenimax-can-we-please-have-hirelings-to-help-us-in-dungeons/p10 -
Ironside✭✭✭1) just because other games have less than intelligent AI, doesn't mean ESO AI needs to be dumb
2) Companions are engaging and fun. The dialogue alone in SWort is amazing fun
3) just another thing to customize and make you feel immersive and unique
4) not everything is about speed runs and 4 second pew pew pvp
5) I would like Companions that fight and walk with you in the world, not just instances missions or the banker. Not sure why people misunderstood that 0 -
Slylok✭✭✭Non combatant companions sure..
Combat companions noway. I have played EQ 1 , EQ 2 and SWToR and they IMO do more harm than good.Youtube ESO First Person Gameplay - http://tinyurl.com/o6evusk
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ThePaleItalian✭✭✭✭✭
✭I get what you mean but you are also asking to instantly double the population of the world. If every player had their own companion.... I honestly don't think there is anything out there that could handle that in PvE settings, let along PvP. Everything would have to be re-tuned.
Nice thought, but I have no idea how they would implement it.Conan, what is good in life?
Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.
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rosicruxSoul ShrivenIf they had Dragon's Dogma type pawns, it would be amazing. That was one of the best parts of the game1
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Nyghthowler✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you are nostalgic about that kind of dumb AI, you can simply use the GF and PuG a dungeon. There are plenty of braindead human players that will always run ahead, aggro all the mobs, get promptly killed by them, or simply stay in the red and get burned or stomped to death. Fortunately there's no friendly fire in this game
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