Value of Halloween items now vs Value of items post event

Artemiisia · October 2016

everyday, I have been going to small cities, and giving them away for free, since god dont know why they did it, you cant vendor or delete them from your inventory.

RavenRoxie · October 2016

I believe the value will go up, but very slowly. IF they do not offer the motifs next halloween then they 'might' be worth something by then.

Sheridan · October 2016

There will be the same events each year from now on.

the_man_of_steal · October 2016

I sold my gold Hallowjack book for 110K Gold in about 3 hours... Probably lost out on a few hundred K gold my guess...

THEDKEXPERIENCE · October 2016

Some of you guys crack me up. Vendoring the blue and purple recipes is one thing but the HJ motifs are absolutely not worthless. Most people are listing them (on XBox) for 2000+ gold so I list mine at 900 gold each and sell a half dozen of them a day. It's almost comical how few people notice the sellable gray area between price gouging and worthless. It's also funny how much people assume that whatever you are doing is what everyone is doing. There are thousands of players who probably don't even know how the skulls drop. Not everyone is a forum posting, min maxer.

The gold mask will be worth 500k minimum come springtime.

Sludge04 · October 2016

I'm selling Hollow Jack style for 300 each on the guild store. I haven't sold any so all my new ones earned I'm selling for 10 gold to merchants. Guild banks are also full of them and recipes. They should have reduced the drops, even the gold recipe is duplicated in all my guild banks.

Krenthal · October 2016

To me, the rate at which I earn the festival motifs, they are worthless. At the moment, I'm selling them all to the vendor. I earn 3 dozen a day, easy. I am running out of bank space. Made several mules to sell in 6 months from now. You run Domens and WB's all day, just to many to count.

Carbonised · October 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Some of you guys crack me up. Vendoring the blue and purple recipes is one thing but the HJ motifs are absolutely not worthless. Most people are listing them (on XBox) for 2000+ gold so I list mine at 900 gold each and sell a half dozen of them a day. It's almost comical how few people notice the sellable gray area between price gouging and worthless. It's also funny how much people assume that whatever you are doing is what everyone is doing. There are thousands of players who probably don't even know how the skulls drop. Not everyone is a forum posting, min maxer.

The gold mask will be worth 500k minimum come springtime.

Prices are always out of wack for console peasants, due to no MM addon.

I can tell you that motifs on PC are around 100-200 per piece if they even sell at all. That's no undiscovered gold mine, bro, that's just overabundance.
I put a lot of them for sale for 500 in my trading guilds, haven't sold a single one yet (didn't plan on selling any anyway, it's just to save space in my bank, so now I know where they will be for the next 30 days).

Since the droprate is so massive, and seeing as we have several days left of the festival anyway, these items will be worth very little. Maybe you can get some decent gold out of the purple and gold recipes and the masks in the time to come, but it's not something you're gonna get rich from selling.

Everyone have been stockpiling anyway, and if it's going to be a repeatable event every halloween with the same items, you're better off trying to sell something else.

Krenthal · October 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I list mine at 900 gold each and sell a half dozen of them a day. It's almost comical how few people notice the sellable gray area between price gouging and worthless.

Do you have any idea how much you can make as a thief/silencer? I laugh at your 5,400 a day haul

Uriel_Nocturne · October 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Some of you guys crack me up. Vendoring the blue and purple recipes is one thing but the HJ motifs are absolutely not worthless. Most people are listing them (on XBox) for 2000+ gold so I list mine at 900 gold each and sell a half dozen of them a day. It's almost comical how few people notice the sellable gray area between price gouging and worthless. It's also funny how much people assume that whatever you are doing is what everyone is doing. There are thousands of players who probably don't even know how the skulls drop. Not everyone is a forum posting, min maxer.

The gold mask will be worth 500k minimum come springtime.

Actually; as of last night, I've been seeing the pages of the Hollowjack Motif for around 200-500 Gold per page on Xbox NA.

Since everyone has a good crack at them (i.e., ZOS is practically giving them away with this festival), they aren't worth anything to sell.

How frequently do they drop in the Skulls? I've been playing since day1 of the Festival, and I've got 4 characters who've learned the full Motif, and I have two more copies of every page sitting in my bank. My wife hasn't been able to get on for the Festival so far, so I'll trade her a full copy of the Motif when she can play, but then I'll still have a full copy of the whole Motif in backup just in case I start a new character.

Really, the Motif pages aren't worth... anything right now. Just doing a bit of window shopping amongst the various Guild Traders (on Xbox), and you can get the whole Motif for around 3k (if you're unable to grind the pages yourself).

THEDKEXPERIENCE · October 2016

Well looks like I need to adjust some prices! We'll see when I check my mail later.

As for the console peasants statement ... sorry that we don't have add-ons that ruin the game wide economic system.

Stopnaggin · October 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

As for the console peasants statement ... sorry that we don't have add-ons that ruin the game wide economic system.

Exactly how does an add-on ruin the economic system? I for one think if we had a way to search all traders for exactly what we are looking for would be great. Prices on Xbox NA are all over the place. Seen Hj motifs for 300 and 300k, so how exactly can you break that?

Thrasher91604 · October 2016

And adddon that provided all prices on all traders would be best. Both for an efficient market and for usability.

waterfairy · October 2016

There's so many of these that it will take a long, long time before they're worth anything.

I banked 2 full sets of motif pages and probably 20+ blue & purple recipes before I realized that the bank space is much more valuable to me.

Nestor · October 2016

I am keeping a few of each of the recipes for the 4 characters I will create at some point, but other than that, just getting rid of most everything I loot from the Plunder Skulls

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2016

I think the Masks, Gold Recipe, and Purple recipe (that gives health, magic, magic regen), will have some resale value a few months from now. You also might find a buyer if you have a full set of Motifs, again several months from now. Most of it is vendor trash.

Stopnaggin wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

As for the console peasants statement ... sorry that we don't have add-ons that ruin the game wide economic system.

Exactly how does an add-on ruin the economic system? I for one think if we had a way to search all traders for exactly what we are looking for would be great. Prices on Xbox NA are all over the place. Seen Hj motifs for 300 and 300k, so how exactly can you break that?

Dont confuse listings with sales.

waterfairy · October 2016

the_man_of_steal wrote: »

I sold my gold Hallowjack book for 110K Gold in about 3 hours... Probably lost out on a few hundred K gold my guess...

ha you found a real sucker that saw the shiny gold book and jumped on it. Aren't there 12 motif pages? That means the person who bought the book paid nearly 10K per page

Carbonised · October 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Well looks like I need to adjust some prices! We'll see when I check my mail later.

As for the console peasants statement ... sorry that we don't have add-ons that ruin the game wide economic system.

Heh, sorry but I need to call out your BS here.

If there's any economic system that's ruined, it's the console one. MM forces sellers to be competitive, or be undercut easily by others. It also provides every buyer with some rudementary tool to see if a seller is about to take advantage of them with inflated prices.

With a very fluctuating market, and lots of items and prices, no one has a chance to calculate an average mean price for items to sell, without a tool like MM to aid the process.

The inflated and extremely high prices on everything on console is the price you pay for not having access to a tool like this.

Smokinroses · October 2016

It's hard to say if it will be higher value or not especially with the motif's because they're so common, even with recipes. But for the gold recipe and the masks, I've seen them selling between 40k - 100k depending on the seller, on the PS4 N/A region. But knowing the ESO market...People are wanting gold, so it'll probably be 500k if not more..

I'm really hoping by the end of the event period me and my crew will have both sets of masks. The other day my guild mate got three scarecrow masks...in a row.. it was crazy. (Which helped us because one guild mate now has the entire set...but she thankfully and graciously gave us it for free.) ^_^ When me and my other guild mate haven't even got one on our own. We've gotten well over 200 plunder skulls. Not one masks.. lol Really wanting the pumpkin one!...

Hoping to collect the pumpkin mask for FREE, rather than having to pay 500k+ when the events over..

I must say though, it's rare, but nice seeing other's giving them away for free. I think it's awesome that people have the heart to do that.

Good luck to everyone getting everything before events over!

Elsonso · October 2016

Nestor wrote: »

I am keeping a few of each of the recipes for the 4 characters I will create at some point, but other than that, just getting rid of most everything I loot from the Plunder Skulls

Yeah, this is what I am doing, too. This is important since we cannot make anything from them that is not our level.

I have noticed that, for me, the Motif pages do not drop evenly. I have a ton of page 8, while some pages, like page 4, are hard to come by. So I have probably picked up a good dozen or so of the page 8 and just a couple page 4.

Motif pages are selling for such a small amount that they are just being given away in the delves.

Asardes · October 2016

I won't keep any of the recipes or motif pages, since they don't stack and take a huge amount of space on my bank characters which I badly need for the dropped sets. So I've simply consumed them on all my characters - ATM I'm only missing the chest motif on my 8th character, the rest have the "Happy work for Hollowjack" achievement. I've also taught them all the green, blue and purple recipes. I've only learned the gold recipe on my main, got a few doubles and popped them on guild stores for about 1.5K gold and they ain't selling, so my bet is that they will go for less than 1K in the end. Sold an extra mask for 30K a few days ago. What I cannot learn I vendor for a few dozen gold just to clear inventory space. I only keep the marbles since they at least stack as any other crafting material. By comparison selling 10 Repora nets me 4K+ gold and selling an average trait dropped set piece nets me between 0.5-3K gold. I have 30/30 on all 3 of my trade guilds with a turnover of 3-5 items a day for each. So the opportunity cost of keeping the doubles or trying to sell them on guild stores is simply too much to make that a viable option for me.

jedtb16_ESO · October 2016

Carbonised wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Well looks like I need to adjust some prices! We'll see when I check my mail later.

As for the console peasants statement ... sorry that we don't have add-ons that ruin the game wide economic system.

Heh, sorry but I need to call out your BS here.

If there's any economic system that's ruined, it's the console one. MM forces sellers to be competitive, or be undercut easily by others. It also provides every buyer with some rudementary tool to see if a seller is about to take advantage of them with inflated prices.

With a very fluctuating market, and lots of items and prices, no one has a chance to calculate an average mean price for items to sell, without a tool like MM to aid the process.

The inflated and extremely high prices on everything on console is the price you pay for not having access to a tool like this.

mm is not a reliable tool because it draws on such a small data set.

for instance.....

this morning someone asked for a price check on a purple spinners wep.

first reply from mm was around 27k

second reply 1200.

all over the place?

the_man_of_steal · October 2016

Vigarr wrote: »

the_man_of_steal wrote: »

I sold my gold Hallowjack book for 110K Gold in about 3 hours... Probably lost out on a few hundred K gold my guess...

ha you found a real sucker that saw the shiny gold book and jumped on it. Aren't there 12 motif pages? That means the person who bought the book paid nearly 10K per page

lol I hope you're right! I feel I left gold on the table! There are 18 pages I think but still, finding the pages one wants to use isn't hard at all! Thanks! you made me feel better with that comment!

ConeOfSilence · October 2016

I saw motif's in Rawl'kha P.C/NA for around150g, more in there than I care to count, heaps. Most of them will expire and get returned to seller I suspect. I doubt they will ever be worth much on P.C so many ppl farming them the public dungeons so full of harvesters.

Lacerator3 · October 2016

I'll be selling my motifs for 3x merchant value, I'll update if I get any bites.

Carbonised · October 2016

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Well looks like I need to adjust some prices! We'll see when I check my mail later.

As for the console peasants statement ... sorry that we don't have add-ons that ruin the game wide economic system.

Heh, sorry but I need to call out your BS here.

If there's any economic system that's ruined, it's the console one. MM forces sellers to be competitive, or be undercut easily by others. It also provides every buyer with some rudementary tool to see if a seller is about to take advantage of them with inflated prices.

With a very fluctuating market, and lots of items and prices, no one has a chance to calculate an average mean price for items to sell, without a tool like MM to aid the process.

The inflated and extremely high prices on everything on console is the price you pay for not having access to a tool like this.

mm is not a reliable tool because it draws on such a small data set.

for instance.....

this morning someone asked for a price check on a purple spinners wep.

first reply from mm was around 27k

second reply 1200.

all over the place?

You don't need to tell me how MM works, I know exactly how it works.

And yes, for items with a high amount of trades, as well as being in 5 of the top trade guilds on PC/EU gives me an extremely accurate price for most items in the game.

Of course having completely new items with 1 or 2 sales does not provide you with any reliable mean price. That's not a fault of the MM tool, that's a fault of people who don't know a thing about how it works, and think it's some kind of magical fortune telling machine.

Uriel_Nocturne · October 2016

the_man_of_steal wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

the_man_of_steal wrote: »

I sold my gold Hallowjack book for 110K Gold in about 3 hours... Probably lost out on a few hundred K gold my guess...

ha you found a real sucker that saw the shiny gold book and jumped on it. Aren't there 12 motif pages? That means the person who bought the book paid nearly 10K per page

lol I hope you're right! I feel I left gold on the table! There are 18 pages I think but still, finding the pages one wants to use isn't hard at all! Thanks! you made me feel better with that comment!

Not trying to be rude, but you're both wrong.

The Hollowjack Motif (and others that you have to assemble page by page) has fourteen pages total.

Just wanted to make this gentle correction. Carry on with your discussion.

jedtb16_ESO · October 2016

Carbonised wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Well looks like I need to adjust some prices! We'll see when I check my mail later.

As for the console peasants statement ... sorry that we don't have add-ons that ruin the game wide economic system.

Heh, sorry but I need to call out your BS here.

If there's any economic system that's ruined, it's the console one. MM forces sellers to be competitive, or be undercut easily by others. It also provides every buyer with some rudementary tool to see if a seller is about to take advantage of them with inflated prices.

With a very fluctuating market, and lots of items and prices, no one has a chance to calculate an average mean price for items to sell, without a tool like MM to aid the process.

The inflated and extremely high prices on everything on console is the price you pay for not having access to a tool like this.

mm is not a reliable tool because it draws on such a small data set.

for instance.....

this morning someone asked for a price check on a purple spinners wep.

first reply from mm was around 27k

second reply 1200.

all over the place?

You don't need to tell me how MM works, I know exactly how it works.

And yes, for items with a high amount of trades, as well as being in 5 of the top trade guilds on PC/EU gives me an extremely accurate price for most items in the game.

Of course having completely new items with 1 or 2 sales does not provide you with any reliable mean price. That's not a fault of the MM tool, that's a fault of people who don't know a thing about how it works, and think it's some kind of magical fortune telling machine.

no....

it gives you an accurate average for those five guilds. compared to the number of people trading throughout the game that is a very small data set.