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To people who hover over you while you're unlocking a chest in hopes you fail so they can steal it
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Synfaer✭✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Dear guy that stood over my character while I was trying for a chest. I know why you were there, and i'm lucky I didn't fail because you would of stole the chest I found before you. It's not cool for you to do this. It's one of those things that makes you a crappy person. I put you on ignore and I Hope I never see you in game again.
Don't do this. It's not funny, nor is it cool. It makes you a jerk.
This might shock you, but until you get that chest open. None of it belongs to you.
If I see someone opening a chest or killing enemies near a chest or node I consider it theirs and move along
Thats fine if that works for you. But no one else owes you the same.What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax
Looks like you have a bit more of that journey ahead of you than behind you
So taking a chest in a video game, with loot in it that hasnt actually been claimed is evil?
Hyperbole much?
I just found it ironic that you'd have that quote and spout anti-social drivel
I dont think you understand what irony means if you make a connection between me telling another forumite that they dont actually own anything in the game until its in their inventory and a quote by a Skyrim character. But of course its not the OP, thats calling others gross or crappy, thats anti-social. Its the person that hasnt thrown any insults around and has challenged the OPs self-centered attitude towards digital content.
This is humorous.
I am quite aware what irony is, its in the relationship between the context of your replies and your sig. quote.
Perhaps you do not understand the main point of this post, its not about the actual chest you realize? Its about other peoples predatory behavior.
Look, your quite welcome to your own opinion, but personally I would rather have friends at my back that think of others before themselves than the guy trying to jump the chest.3 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS owns every asset in the game. They make the rules on ownership, not individual players. All of the in-game rules are defined in the TOS and EULA.
You can't bot. You can't exploit resource bugs. But there's absolutely nothing along the lines of a Finders Keepers clause.
So it's not yours until it's in your inventory.signing off1 -
Synfaer✭✭✭✭✭ZOS owns every asset in the game. They make the rules on ownership, not individual players. All of the in-game rules are defined in the TOS and EULA.
You can't bot. You can't exploit resource bugs. But there's absolutely nothing along the lines of a Finders Keepers clause.
So it's not yours until it's in your inventory.
No law that people have to thank you if you help them either, but its nice to hear.3 -
Solus✭✭✭✭But it's so satisfying when someone with bad latency isn't able to loot something properly;
it's like taking candy from a child
I live for moments like this
this is why I play ESO
This happened next to a WB, chest was a master difficulty, dude failed, there were like 4 other people around and i wasnt gonna let them steal it from me who stole it from him, so i took it. Master chests are EZThe-Pumpkin-King // Stamblade
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Synfaer✭✭✭✭✭Oh I give up!
Its like trying to explain the concept of sharing to a kindergarten class or asking a flock of seagulls to queue up for a chip
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✭i have to admit sometimes I'm just a jerk for fun. once in wroth gar a guy was about to farm a node and some harpies came and i stole it from him just to be a prick. I'm sorry if ur out there. I'm not a good person....0 -
leothedino✭✭✭✭The way I see it, if this is in the game, that chests are not shared, nor are nodes and most importantly it was not removed as a bug/exploit/unintended feature, it would appear that ZoS purposely included this element of competitive play into their game and it is fully intended. TL;DR - It's like when somebody takes my parking spot, the world rotates and s**t happens. Deal with it.1 -
dreddurius✭✭✭I propose that OP take ownership of all lewt chests across all the known (and yet to be discovered) realms of Tamriel. Any lewtz illegally acquired from here on shall be relinquished to OP.
/promptly hides under rockEdited by dreddurius on October 25, 2016 5:36AMCAN I HAZ UR STUFF?0 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No law that people have to thank you if you help them either, but its nice to hear.
If nobody's considering the feelings of the NPC who locked the chest in the first place, that's a fallacious argument. There is just no common courtesy applicable to taking other people's stuff.
I get mad when somebody intercepts a football being passed to me. It hurts for like 5 seconds. Then I get over it and keep playing.
Edited by Acrolas on October 25, 2016 5:38AMsigning off2 -
Skcarkden✭✭✭✭Dear guy that stood over my character while I was trying for a chest. I know why you were there, and i'm lucky I didn't fail because you would of stole the chest I found before you. It's not cool for you to do this. It's one of those things that makes you a crappy person. I put you on ignore and I Hope I never see you in game again.
Don't do this. It's not funny, nor is it cool. It makes you a jerk.
You put a guy on ignore just for standing beside you? Oh, my bad, they 'stood over' your character waiting to 'steal' 'your' chest.
Ignore list stops you from seeing/hearing what they say, it can't do anything to stop people standing near chests.
It's not your chest, and just because you claim to find it first doesn't mean you did for certain and it's not stealing as you can't get a bounty for picking their locks unless it's one of those owned chests.
If you want more proof that it isn't your chest and that it isn't stealing, loot one, fail and then try to loot it again instantly. You'll be on time-out. That means "You failed, it's someone elses turn".
There is absolutely nothing wrong with people standing by a chest even if it's being picked on the off chance the person fails, they get a go, and they might think waiting is worth it if it's the top tier chest.3 -
kamimark✭✭✭✭There's a lot of barely-people (in games, and outside) who don't understand that other people exist. They think you're an NPC, an object to abuse for fun and profit, so they feel justified doing anything they want to you. If confronted, they'll apologize, then keep doing it.
So I just make sure to get good at picking locks, and stay away from the obvious ones chasing after other players.
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Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭There's a lot of barely-people (in games, and outside) who don't understand that other people exist. They think you're an NPC, an object to abuse for fun and profit, so they feel justified doing anything they want to you. If confronted, they'll apologize, then keep doing it.
So I just make sure to get good at picking locks, and stay away from the obvious ones chasing after other players.
The problem with what you state, is that it goes both ways. You feel because you got to the chest first the other people do not exist? They do not deserve a turn at it because you were first? If you fail they deserve a turn at it too. Isn't that what sharing is? Oh wait.... Sharing only goes one way, and that happens to be the way you are on. I get it. /s
Seriously, you feel abused because someone else gets a turn at a chest if you fail?
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Rhyagell✭✭✭Isn't this why there is a cool down on chests? If you didn't break into it, time for the next dude's try.5 -
Skcarkden✭✭✭✭There's a lot of barely-people (in games, and outside) who don't understand that other people exist. They think you're an NPC, an object to abuse for fun and profit, so they feel justified doing anything they want to you. If confronted, they'll apologize, then keep doing it.
So I just make sure to get good at picking locks, and stay away from the obvious ones chasing after other players.
Do you feel the same way about pinatas at parties? "Back off guys, this pianata is mine alone to crack open, even though the host paid for it as a party activity for all of us to do!"
ZoS being the part host in this analogy.4 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Tbh, since chests have chance of set item, I will try to get them no matter what. Nodes are different thing, plenty of these around. Only time I would pass a chest is if I am not interested in any set in that area, like in Rivenspire, for example.0 -
SaibotLiu✭✭✭✭Just play single player games and everything is yours. Multiplayer games often have competitive and cooperative elements. Open world resources generally fall into the former catagory. You dont always get to pick when/where you're going to compete. This is a big big part of MMOs that just seems lost on players today. And yes, consideration for others is a part of the MMO lineage as well. It's kinda like baseball in that you're expected to follow all these unspoken rules and whatnot. But the times change and not many go by those priniples anymore. We all have to adjust to the game rules and the unique community for every game. I feel sorry for players who feel the need to come into a game and try to impose their morality on it. The games design takes priority and you have to adjust to it, the players who wait for an opportunity to maybe loot a chest are doing just that. Suck it up.5 -
ArgoCye✭✭✭✭Soafee's right. However some might try and justify it, it's just a crappy thing to do. But I guess there are a lot of people out there who try and make their miserable lives a little better by making someone else miserable. But you know what? Doesn't work.3 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I fail to see how in the nirn is anyone waiting next to the chest someone is trying to open making that person's life miserable.2 -
dreddurius✭✭✭Soafee's right. However some might try and justify it, it's just a crappy thing to do. But I guess there are a lot of people out there who try and make their miserable lives a little better by making someone else miserable. But you know what? Doesn't work.
So what would the proper course of action be should this situation arise? (Just curious).Edited by dreddurius on October 25, 2016 6:48AMCAN I HAZ UR STUFF?0 -
Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dear guy that stood over my character while I was trying for a chest. I know why you were there, and i'm lucky I didn't fail because you would of stole the chest I found before you. It's not cool for you to do this. It's one of those things that makes you a crappy person. I put you on ignore and I Hope I never see you in game again.
Don't do this. It's not funny, nor is it cool. It makes you a jerk.
U had ur chance this is MMO u are not alone...2 -
ArgoCye✭✭✭✭Leave, find another chest. There are many. No reason to be a creeper, predator type. Hey, I'm not judging ... much. Having said that, I like that there are different types of players in this game, just like irl. Nice people, *** people and many in between.
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DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭People should take the chest from me if I can't pick the lock on the first try. No dibs in the game. Pick the lock at the contents are yours.
Some people are getting really dramatic about this but they have only themselves to blame if they can't pick locks. I don't see why I should have a better claim to a chest just because I was 10 meters ahead of someone else when the chest spawned. My only claim to the chest is getting to it, opening it, and taking the contents.
The actions worthy of criticism is leaving anything behind in a node as everyone suffers for such ignorant or lazy players.4 -
dreddurius✭✭✭Looter: "Imma lewtz diz..."
Lurker: "k."
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Looter: "I failz, can you wait while the cooldown expires and I triez again? And please distance yourself it's creeping me out."
Lurker: "No."
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(failed) Looter whips out the entitlement card and promptly posts in forums.
Can someone enlighten me on what's wrong with this scenario?Edited by dreddurius on October 25, 2016 6:56AMCAN I HAZ UR STUFF?4 -
Nyghthowler✭✭✭✭✭
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No, most of the responses to the OP are trying to explain that they aren't entitled. If the OP failed to pick the lock it is obviously someone else' turn at it by the way ZoS made the mechanics of it. Someone stood there waiting for a chance; boohoo...Soafee's right. However some might try and justify it, it's just a crappy thing to do. But I guess there are a lot of people out there who try and make their miserable lives a little better by making someone else miserable. But you know what? Doesn't work.
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ArgoCye✭✭✭✭Nyghthowler wrote: »
No, most of the responses to the OP are trying to explain that they aren't entitled. If the OP failed to pick the lock it is obviously someone else' turn at it by the way ZoS made the mechanics of it. Someone stood there waiting for a chance; boohoo...Soafee's right. However some might try and justify it, it's just a crappy thing to do. But I guess there are a lot of people out there who try and make their miserable lives a little better by making someone else miserable. But you know what? Doesn't work.
I get it and I get ZoS's so called mechanics. But it just comes down to the amount of courtesy you extend to others in the game. For instance, when you see someone running up to a public dungeon boss/dolmen boss that you have almost killed, do you wait and block so that person can get a hit in and get loots, or do you just go ahead and kill it? Some people will do the former, others the latter. I know what side I'm on, but each to his or her own. I know this example is slightly different than the chest issue - but I never feel I have lost out when I help someone in this game (or just leave them alone).3 -
SaibotLiu✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Dear guy that stood over my character while I was trying for a chest. I know why you were there, and i'm lucky I didn't fail because you would of stole the chest I found before you. It's not cool for you to do this. It's one of those things that makes you a crappy person. I put you on ignore and I Hope I never see you in game again.
Don't do this. It's not funny, nor is it cool. It makes you a jerk.
This might shock you, but until you get that chest open. None of it belongs to you.
If I see someone opening a chest or killing enemies near a chest or node I consider it theirs and move along
Thats fine if that works for you. But no one else owes you the same.What is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax
Looks like you have a bit more of that journey ahead of you than behind you
So taking a chest in a video game, with loot in it that hasnt actually been claimed is evil?
Hyperbole much?
I just found it ironic that you'd have that quote and spout anti-social drivel
I dont think you understand what irony means if you make a connection between me telling another forumite that they dont actually own anything in the game until its in their inventory and a quote by a Skyrim character. But of course its not the OP, thats calling others gross or crappy, thats anti-social. Its the person that hasnt thrown any insults around and has challenged the OPs self-centered attitude towards digital content.
This is humorous.
I am quite aware what irony is, its in the relationship between the context of your replies and your sig. quote.
Perhaps you do not understand the main point of this post, its not about the actual chest you realize? Its about other peoples predatory behavior.
Look, your quite welcome to your own opinion, but personally I would rather have friends at my back that think of others before themselves than the guy trying to jump the chest.
There is no irony there, good and evil are obviously subjective terms. Being a predator doesnt by nature make a person bad anymore than being defenseless makes a person good. Im just entertaining your own logic, really applying either good or evil to this game mechanic is beyond silly in the first place.
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Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I can tell the people that do this by the replies.
Gross, simply gross.
If I see someone opening a chest, I leave. Why is that so hard for people? I don't steal things from other people
There's nothing wrong with waiting nearby, after all there's a chance you just broke your last lockpick. I've done it myself at times, though rarely as pre-update 12 chests weren't really worth it. Now, if we're talking about someone standing directly at the chest and spamming "E" in hopes to activate the chest if you fail, that sucks.
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geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭what in the heck is going on out here...I keep reading all these threads concerning social conflict...
on the rare occasions when I leave cyro (thank you witches festival and 1T for a little break from the constant/never ending struggle in cyrodiil and IC - the alliance war can be exhausting at times), i swear, I barely ever see anyone else on the other maps...I could try and unlock a chest and fail 1,000 times before someone else will walk/run by me...
I'm starting to worry that zos has me on my own private server...I miss you all...
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