VMA Final Boss Impossible?!

Apokalypt · October 2016

I am a stam DK tank, so I will never ever be able to finish VMA....meh...

Nidro · October 2016

@wellerrocks

im on PS4 EU aswell,

if you need help, just msg me ingame and/or add my PSN - Nidro666

I can say i mastered Maelstrom Arena on my Stam sorc

I can also help you to improve your build, your usage of skills, skillcombinations, movement - just all the stuff.

jsut message me and i see how i can help you.

i will come home in about 4-5 hours from now.

So we can meet up in a Party or whatever :-)

nordsavage · October 2016

Round 9 is not really difficult once you understand the mechanics of the field, boss and adds.

wellerrocks · October 2016

Nidro wrote: »

@wellerrocks

im on PS4 EU aswell,

if you need help, just msg me ingame and/or add my PSN - Nidro666

I can say i mastered Maelstrom Arena on my Stam sorc

I can also help you to improve your build, your usage of skills, skillcombinations, movement - just all the stuff.

jsut message me and i see how i can help you.

i will come home in about 4-5 hours from now.

So we can meet up in a Party or whatever :-)

Sorted, an just heading out for the day. Will message my stats and build to see what I can improve.

[I completed it last night after 107 goes, got a battle axe in nirnhoned!]

wellerrocks · October 2016

Advice for anyone who is like me on that final boss (hopeless):

Vigor, lacerate ult, crit surge and flurry daedroth while AOEing boss and healer to begin with. Shift up and batter one crystal with everything possible including ult. Let the wall come round to you and vigor or dark deal when behind, don't waste that time! Just remember he'll keep shooting so keep dodging. Once last crystal is dead jump down yourself so you don't have to hit the lava.

Once down main priority is the golden ghosts as they'll do this fight for you. Make sure you just keep the summoners down. As soon as i got down i grabbed every sigil i had left over, defense will help you massively here.

caperon · October 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Use a 2h over duel wield. Rally every 3s will give you a full heal.

Plus the execute on reverse slice will do a lot more damage when you really need it. Tip go right at the top and don't dodge roll the attacks. Always block it's less stam.

Up top, block rally up. Hail down, injection amd weave away and execute each crystal. You get a much needed stam recovery boost with killing with a 2h. It's actually quite hard on dw if you're not used to maelstrom.

Or try this. Buff up crush one crystal... overload on back bar and just crush them. You'll smash the other 2 within 1 wall phase and be at full stam.

I'm sorry. Not trying to be rude, but please do not listen to this person. Rally every 3s? DW is much much faster than 2h.

I'm sorry but you're a complete mong. Where is your useful advice? The op is saying he can't put heal or outlast the dot and that's what you've got to say? Go back to worshipping YT heroes.

Way to help someone who is evidently knew to vma...when 99% of attempts in the first place where never made with stam sorcs or dw. Ever think he may not have vma daggers and leet gear?

You have no idea about what are you talking about:

1st, dual wield has better heals than 2 handed now if you use the healing morphs as long you are doing dmg. When you pair blood craze with surge you dont even need to use vigor (but OP can use it to extra safety). OP can use bloodthirst too for extra healing while not using cooldowns in healing. = faster killing.

2nd, best build for maelstrom does not use maelstrom daggers (bow is good, but it can be done without vma bow), uses veli + 5 vicious ophifian + 5 other set (nmg, spriggan,hundings...). Golden weapons and the rest can be purple no problem.

With your current build you will strugle on stamina, you need to do a lot of heavy atack weaving, maybe put some regen on your enchants. Check your morphs, you can use bloodcraze and/or bloodthirst for extra healing while dealing dmg, so you dont need to vigor. Make sure you have hurricane and surge up all the time in vma.

About the crystals, I usually go to the 1st and drop trap, blood craze, endless hail and poison injection and move to another crystal, wich i dps until the 1st explosion. If you are fast enought you can have now 2 crystals destroyed or near to be destroyed (use poison injection on this) so you can move to the last. With surge and all dots in as many targets as you can you should be fine on healing at least until the 3rd explosion. If you can't survive go down and kill the daedroth and the clanfear while keep moving, don't stand still.

FInally, your life changer would be get 5 pieces vicious ophidian. With that set you will never have stamina problems again in vma. I highly recomend you get it asap.

Araxyte · October 2016

Hi, I achieved flawless conqueror below 300cp on a stamina build, so I believe my tips are some what valid.

The build which I use is a stam nb with 2H sword and bow - I believe 2H weapons are far easier to play MA with and just as much damage in certain situations. For starters you don't have to spend 1000s on weapon power potions since the rally ability provides 30 seconds of it, and then there's the healing it provides. I believe the healing from rally is invaluable for MA, especially for dealing with the DoT last boss - When you get low hp just activate rally again for full hp, it also provides a decent HoT to reduce the effectiveness of the DoT.

Sure, dual wield can be more damage once you've mastered surviveability but this guy just wants to get it done. Even with 2H I nuke the last boss to 70% hp before he even teleports from the middle, it's quite funny - with enough damage you don't even have to deal with a single cremetorial guard (and that's without the power sigil).

For my build I use 5 vicious ophidian, 2 velidreth, 3 agility and then MA 2H sword+bow. But I achieved my title with 5 hundings instead of the VO (this is all purple gear, does not have to be legendary). With buffs I reach 3.4k wep damage.

Moltyr · October 2016

wellerrocks wrote: »

Look guys,

I have been stuck on this boss for about 12 hours in total, I physically cannot do it!! I struggle getting the first daedroth down, then when I do, the stupidly OP DOT up top takes me down? I am running behind the moving wall and the DOT does 140k+ to me?! I have vigor and crit surge on with 75% critical chance yet I still don't have enough healing to stay up...

What more can I do?!

Bro, I've been there. To be honest, once you "get it" (assuming the numerous bugs don't prevent your progress), the final boss becomes the EASIEST part of VMA. Well, except for the first stage.

I start north for the final boss, laydown trap/aoe etc. Grab the power sigil as soon as it spawns and wait for the portal. BURN the boss to 70% BEFORE he ports (don't have to deal with daedroth). Then once you get up top, thrown dots/aoe on crystal while applying direct damage and dodge rolling the bosses attacks. You need to be able to take out one crystal at least...per phase. I can get the first two crystals down before the boss does the first explosion. Once you get that, and you are taken back down...immediately identify where the defense sigil is. Run for it and grab it, and the others if you wish. From that point forward, dots should be up on boss and do direct damage when you can...however...your MAIN focus is above all: grabbing the gold ghosts! Do not miss a single one. If you have him down to execute range (or as the daedroth is spawning) activate the synergy. From that point it should be an easy win.

However, unless you have some ridiculous luck, you will have to run VMA hundreds of times to get the proper weapons with useful traits. Yes, I'm serious. So someone like me around 100 runs, that's at least 100 hours of my life...gone. I recommend doing VMA 1-2 times per week on each toon for the weekly. Don't spend too much time farming it, as you will not be rewarded properly.

notimetocare · October 2016

wellerrocks wrote: »

Look guys,

I have been stuck on this boss for about 12 hours in total, I physically cannot do it!! I struggle getting the first daedroth down, then when I do, the stupidly OP DOT up top takes me down? I am running behind the moving wall and the DOT does 140k+ to me?! I have vigor and crit surge on with 75% critical chance yet I still don't have enough healing to stay up...

What more can I do?!

Stam is all about killing super fast, I dont even bother with vigor. while you run with the wall, keep crit surge up and use ranged hits on the crystals
140k seems like it is taking too long. Ive had deaths to it but never over 60k

maxetro · October 2016

I was in your shoes for 8 months. Yes, I tried to kill last boss for 8 months, literally. Like 1-2 hours each week. I tried it on mag sroc, stam sorc, stam nb and stam templar, but I allways failed on the crystal stage. I didnt have enough dps to kill all 3 crystals in one try and I allways died from daedroth, xyvkin mage and clanfear if I jump down or was pushed by boss.

But I did it after T1 on my stam sorc. How? I just changed my gear. From 5 hundings, 3 agility, 1 kena, 1 bloodspawn and 2 lekis to 5/4 nightmother, 5 automaton and 2 velidreth. And then I did whole vMA again, with 4 or 5 deaths and 480k score. So, I guess, youre problem is lack of dps and sustain, like mine was. Try to boost it with golden weapons and better sets.

And sorry my crappy english.

Syrani · October 2016

[/quote][I completed it last night after 107 goes, got a battle axe in nirnhoned!][/quote]

Grats!!

DuckEmDoc · October 2016

I only read about 75% of the comments but I only saw this mentioned once to that point... rearming trap. Use it. I essentially main a stam sorc now and my rotation when going up is IMMEDIATELY hit the first crystal with poison inject, then endless hail, then bar swap (for me) and drop rearming trap right on the crystal. Of course, you should be buffing up with crit surge and hurricane the second before you actually go up. If your timing/rotation is quick enough will drop your trap and then within 1 second the first skull will be on he way so I usually drop trap and then dodge roll pretty much immediately (or block if you so choose). Then hit the crystal with 2x flurry (I use the bloodthirst morph and get back some health), blood craze once, then bloodthirst a couple more times while also weaving in a few light/heavy attacks. By this time the wall should be up and you can drop endless hail on he first crystal again and then make your way to the wall. While behind the wall rebuff with crit surge and hurricane, vigor if needed, then when the wall explodes make your way to crystal 2 (which is whichever crystal is closer honestly). You will likely have to dodge roll/block the first skull about the time you reach the crystal. After that lay down all the same dots and skills in the same rotation. Somewhere after you drop trap and start with flurry the 2nd skull will be coming and you should block/dodge then finish crushing the crystal. If it's not down and it's time to go to the wall because it's about to blow don't forget to drop hail on it... might just save you. Again, rebuff with crit surge and hurrican, vigor, and rinse/repeat for the last one. The trap puts a huge amount of dot damage on the crystal plus it gives you minor force which increases crit damage by 12%... this helps a lot.
After all that if you still can't get this down there is only one problem... ability and rotation. Hundings is OK if it's all you have but definitely not best. Your best bet would be twice born and VO or Noght mothers and VO but there are combos that work if you can't/ won't farm the best set in the game, Vicious Ophidian. Seriously though,considering the numbers you put up (about 3500 WD, 75% crit) there should be. I issues with dps but I really think that might actually be the problem due to rotation, skills, or (sorry to say) ability. I have about the same numbers and never have an issue burning the daedroth (like none). I don't mind them at all as long as crit surge and hurricane is buffed and I don't even bother kiting them anymore... I just stand toe to toe and wear them out. With the crystals I break the first one usually before the wall breaks and then make it over and drop dots on crystal before I ever even go to the wall. Your problem IS dps, it's just figuring out what's behind that which will solve your problem.

DRXHarbinger · October 2016

Erock25 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Use a 2h over duel wield. Rally every 3s will give you a full heal.

Plus the execute on reverse slice will do a lot more damage when you really need it. Tip go right at the top and don't dodge roll the attacks. Always block it's less stam.

Up top, block rally up. Hail down, injection amd weave away and execute each crystal. You get a much needed stam recovery boost with killing with a 2h. It's actually quite hard on dw if you're not used to maelstrom.

Or try this. Buff up crush one crystal... overload on back bar and just crush them. You'll smash the other 2 within 1 wall phase and be at full stam.

I'm sorry. Not trying to be rude, but please do not listen to this person. Rally every 3s? DW is much much faster than 2h.

I'm sorry but you're a complete mong. Where is your useful advice? The op is saying he can't put heal or outlast the dot and that's what you've got to say? Go back to worshipping YT heroes.

Way to help someone who is evidently knew to vma...when 99% of attempts in the first place where never made with stam sorcs or dw. Ever think he may not have vma daggers and leet gear?

Frothing at the mouth, are we? Sorry man but telling someone to drop dw for 2h in vma is really terrible advice. So bad in fact, that I had to chime in. My useful advice was basically covered by other people already.

Your advice is as useful as a *** flavoured lollypop. Basically you said get gud. I can do so can you. Ignore the fact op can't heal himself and runs out of resources. I guess by your standard all he can do is...run out by spamming dps over and over and fail time and time again. Well done. Where is the medal button for people like you.

Sallington · October 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

You should be able to down all 3 crystals on first port, if you can't you will have trouble.

Never run to the platform let the platform come to you,

Take the weapon sigal before you port up it should let you have enough damage to down all 3 crystals I One go

As soon as you fall grab shield sigal and interrupt his channel

Then focus on grabbing gold ghosts first

Kill guys walking to the center to summon bone collusion second

Dps boss 3rd in that order

Every 3 ghosts a daedroth will spawn but if your grabbing ghosts you can spectral explosion and kill them

Practice practice you can do it

I do the opposite!

DON'T interrupt his channel, and his attacks will be reflected back at him. Just be sure to dodge the big attack since that will not be reflected by the shield sigil.

kadar · October 2016

Sallington wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

You should be able to down all 3 crystals on first port, if you can't you will have trouble.

Never run to the platform let the platform come to you,

Take the weapon sigal before you port up it should let you have enough damage to down all 3 crystals I One go

As soon as you fall grab shield sigal and interrupt his channel

Then focus on grabbing gold ghosts first

Kill guys walking to the center to summon bone collusion second

Dps boss 3rd in that order

Every 3 ghosts a daedroth will spawn but if your grabbing ghosts you can spectral explosion and kill them

Practice practice you can do it

I do the opposite!

DON'T interrupt his channel, and his attacks will be reflected back at him. Just be sure to dodge the big attack since that will not be reflected by the shield sigil.

QFT

s7732425ub17_ESO · October 2016

If you can make it to the last boss, you can beat the last boss. It is purely a mechanics fight with very little RNG involved unlike some of the other bosses. I wouldn't be scared of the Daedroths. You should be able to burn them down in <5 seconds by dropping a meteor on them. If you are having trouble, I suggest watching some videos on Youtube.