HarpaxPT wrote: »

If dot gets too much fall down to reset the dot.

Then deal with another daedroth? I'd rather not!;)

On a stamsorc u can bloodthirst/crit surge/hurricane heal thru a daedroth

Syrani wrote: »

I am not a VMA expert by any means, but you could be taking too long to kill the crystals up top. From what I understand, that dot hits harder and harder the longer you are up there. If you are getting more than 2 or 3 moving walls, then I think that is a sign that you are taking too long.

You can jump back down below to remove and reset the dot, but you will have to kill another daedroth and then kill another clanfear on top of the lit up sigil. I hate those daedroth, so I do everything I can to kill those crystals as quickly as possible, including using ultimates on them.

I see, I must be taking too long. I have 75% crit and 3.5k weapon damage I must be using my moves wrong etc

khur wrote: »

Get used to killing the daedroth.

I find it's often a matter of getting away from the clanfer and watching for the lich spikes too... Don't fight in the middle. Somehow that adds more ghosts....

2 max Rapid strikes between each vigor. Circle and hug. Dodge roll through if you have to. Try to prepare the ground with hail or caltrops. You can recover Stam killing the next clannfer spawn at a portal.

And ult if you have too. You gotta jump down after 2 crystals or the second wall pops.

As to crystals - dot one up and then get to the wall, ideally starting to dot the next. No shame at all in jumping down with 2 at less than 10 percent and 1 still full while you're learning - the second trip up top will bring the boss back down.

But even then, it's better to jump than get kicked down...

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I mean, the DoT is still getting me, I'm not getting anywhere even with this tactic!

I am PS4 EU - TheBrightside-- if anyone wants to try and help!;)

Are you using blood craze? Blood thirst?

How many cycles of the moving wall are you going through?

The dot doesn't get that bad unless you've been up there for 3+ cycles, but if you're dps is pretty good, you shold be done before that. Given you're having trouble with the daedroth though I'm assuming you're dps isn't crazy so some build info might be helpful in figuring out how to give you a boost.

wellerrocks wrote: »

Syrani wrote: »

wellerrocks wrote: »

Syrani wrote: »

I am not a VMA expert by any means, but you could be taking too long to kill the crystals up top. From what I understand, that dot hits harder and harder the longer you are up there. If you are getting more than 2 or 3 moving walls, then I think that is a sign that you are taking too long.

You can jump back down below to remove and reset the dot, but you will have to kill another daedroth and then kill another clanfear on top of the lit up sigil. I hate those daedroth, so I do everything I can to kill those crystals as quickly as possible, including using ultimates on them.

I see, I must be taking too long. I have 75% crit and 3.5k weapon damage I must be using my moves wrong etc

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic here or not, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. How many moving walls are you getting? If it's only 2 or 3, then I don't know what's going wrong. If it's more than 2 or 3, then you will need to kill the crystals faster, or jump down.

Nope, dead serious. Cant do it in time.

Ok, in that case, I would assume it's an issue with the skills you are using, or with your build in general. I don't know anything about stamsorc, but many people here do. So, to be of the most help, they would need to know the details of your build. Give as much info as you can - armour sets and weights, what weapons you are using, what enchants you are using, what food, what potions, and which skills. Give them info as to what rotation you are using. CP allocation would also be good info for them to have. With all this, I am sure someone here can get you sorted out. Good luck!

Edit: Also, post the info on how much health, stam, stam regen, etc that you have. Your weapon crit and weapon damage seem ok, but maybe some other stat is off.

If you can't do it in time: drop down, IGNORE the deadroth, kite it and pull clannfear to portal. Kill Only the clannfear, that's what I do when I drop down there. Keep vigor and surge up, should be enough to kite the deadroth. The deadroth dies anyway when you destroyed all crystals! When you're down again after crystals : take the defensive sigil, the boss will dps himself with projectiles while you kill the adds. Then offensive to burn him down. Nr one priority: ghosts. If boss gets one, you're screwed.

wellerrocks wrote: »

Look guys,

I have been stuck on this boss for about 12 hours in total, I physically cannot do it!! I struggle getting the first daedroth down, then when I do, the stupidly OP DOT up top takes me down? I am running behind the moving wall and the DOT does 140k+ to me?! I have vigor and crit surge on with 75% critical chance yet I still don't have enough healing to stay up...

What more can I do?!

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Put some points into thick skinned & max out elemental defender for final boss. Assuming you have over 360 cp.

Maybe this will help , Alcast has great videos on every stage breaking the mechanics and mobs down btw. By far the best I saw when learning the arena.

Don't get too disappointed...your first run through with the last boss can take 100s of deaths before you figure out the mechanics and what you need to do (and what you shouldn't do). Once you get used to it the last boss becomes easier than some of the other rounds surprisingly.

I've only run it a few times with my Stam Sorc but I find with BloodCraze, BloodThirst, Critical Surge and Vigor there is more than enough healing and DPS to get through the last round, particularly the Crematorial Guards. As others have mentioned, finding a way to regularly beat the Guards is key to getting the last round done successfully. For both my Magplar and my Stam Sorc the best way is to get close, circle them, and just spam Sweeps/Bloodthirst. Saving Dawnbreaker for the Guards helps a lot too. When you circle them quickly you seem to take a little less damage from their breath, just be careful of not hitting any ghosts while doing it.

For the boss I usually start with the Power Sigil and I can usually DPS him down before the first Guard spawns (Just Poison Arrow, Volley, Trap Beast, Bloodcraze, Bloodthirst and Dawnbreaker if its up). If I can't get the boss to 70% then I switch to focusing on the Guard while watching the boss to block/roll-dodge his skull attack and interrupt him if I need to.

Up top I usually DoT up the first crystal (Poison Arrow, Volley, Trap Beast, Bloodcraze) and then move counter-clockwise and start on the other. Watch for the walls and roll-dodge just after you see him begin to cast his skull (you can roll-dodge anytime during this animation to dodge the skull). Keep up Critical Surge and use Vigor/potions as needed. If you can't kill all 3 crystals before the 3rd wall shows up or if you're taking too much damage jump down. Once you kill the guard (you've learned how to kill them easily by now, remember) and jump back up the walls/DoT will have reset.

Your build sounds good and basically the same as what I've used on my Stam Sorc in vMSA. Don't try to rush the last phase but work on getting each stage down so it becomes easy. It just takes time, practice, and don't be afraid to stop for the day if you get frustrated (you'll have to restart the last round but that's good practice too). Good luck!

I can recommend alcasts videos too, but in the end, you have to learn it yourself. If you run out of stamina upstairs, use dark deal to exchange magicka for stam! Or you can just farm vicious ophidian for sustain, then use 5 VO, 2 velidreth and 5 hundings. vicious ophidian is a gamechanger in there... The 8% cost reduction and speed really help.

Erock25 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Use a 2h over duel wield. Rally every 3s will give you a full heal.

Plus the execute on reverse slice will do a lot more damage when you really need it. Tip go right at the top and don't dodge roll the attacks. Always block it's less stam.

Up top, block rally up. Hail down, injection amd weave away and execute each crystal. You get a much needed stam recovery boost with killing with a 2h. It's actually quite hard on dw if you're not used to maelstrom.

Or try this. Buff up crush one crystal... overload on back bar and just crush them. You'll smash the other 2 within 1 wall phase and be at full stam.

I'm sorry. Not trying to be rude, but please do not listen to this person. Rally every 3s? DW is much much faster than 2h.

I'm sorry but you're a complete mong. Where is your useful advice? The op is saying he can't put heal or outlast the dot and that's what you've got to say? Go back to worshipping YT heroes.

Way to help someone who is evidently knew to vma...when 99% of attempts in the first place where never made with stam sorcs or dw. Ever think he may not have vma daggers and leet gear?

Masel92 wrote: »

If you can't do it in time: drop down, IGNORE the deadroth, kite it and pull clannfear to portal. Kill Only the clannfear, that's what I do when I drop down there. Keep vigor and surge up, should be enough to kite the deadroth. The deadroth dies anyway when you destroyed all crystals! When you're down again after crystals : take the defensive sigil, the boss will dps himself with projectiles while you kill the adds. Then offensive to burn him down. Nr one priority: ghosts. If boss gets one, you're screwed.

If deadroth hits you with flame breath thing you get an extra dot on you until deadroth dies. If

1st phase I start by taking the healing sigil putting a trap down, endless hail and keep going at the boss and he normally goes up top as the crem guard spawns. If you still struggle take the power or defence sigil maybe here?

Make sure hurricane is up, endless hail and pop vigor then rotate round the crem guard with rapid strikes/rending slash. This normally works for me.

Up top I put trap on the first crystal, then use rend ulti, hail and injection then rending slash. Obviously dodging his attacks for me this takes this crystal to <10% or dead by the time dots run out.
Once those dots are on I move onto the next crystal with another trap, injection rending slash and then rapid strikes keeping an eye out for the wall and moving if needed with the aim to kill this or get as close to as possible by the time the wall gets wiped. When behind the wall keep hitting crystals with bow attacks to keep crit heals coming and killing them.

By the time the wall comes down I hit remaining Crystals with injection and work on the fullest health one.
When this gets to 50k health I reapply hail and injection and roll off into the bottom and let the dot take the remaining health.

Once down the bottom kill the healer and prepare buffs for the boss coming down. Go at the boss, keep and eye out for summoners and take them out and keep an eye out on ghosts and take them as priority.
If you get all 3 ghosts you should have an explosion around the same time as the 2nd daedroth spawns so get them close together use it and get hurracaine up, hail down and go at the boss and he should be dead or very low health. Start again with buffs, dots and rapid strike on the boss.
Final thing take the sigils when/where you can might sound obvious but easy to get caught up in the fight and forget about these.