Did.... Did I just go through a time warp? Nerf damage shields? Haven't they been through enough?

clap clap 20k shield up

MajickDK is op what ?!

dmg shields op they need nerfed

There is still a magicka dk out there?! This gives us hope!

last i saw there were stam build running around everywhere...seems ur only bitching about the players you can't kill...like the ones who have build themselves to counter stam a proc-asaurus. now think about it...there are three main types of mitigation that zeni is pushing through to the different gears. outright mitigation via heavy armor/ impen/ blocking. dodging through medium armor passives/ stacking stamina/ shuffle. and bubble mitigation through harness magick/ healing ward. all classes/specs combine these main types of mitigation with healing save for mag sorc, who just pops more shields (and arguably NBs who can vanish).

i'll give you ONE guess as to which is the absolute most rediculous....figure it out? it comes as a 20+ second buff to dodge chance...shuffle and dodgerolling combination. you see, the problem is that no "bubble" skill gives me 20 seconds of 5k (roughly the damage of a light attack sustained in light armor) shield every couple of seconds refreshed. basically, i have no skill i can use that will outright ignore damage without me having to CAST a skill to ignore damage. stam gets if for one cast...for 20 seconds. my bubble equals about what 7-10k? (harness magick on a magplar) which gives me one animation cancel cycle of defense...thats HORRIBLE.

now i agree with dodge rolling, it a VERY reactive skill, you see an attack comming, you dodge roll/ block. and only stamina toons can reliably use it. in order for me a magplar to stand a chance in cyrodil, i HAVE to wear five heavy, i HAVE to put a sword and shield on, i HAVE to be a vampire for mistform, i cant use my bubble since it sucks compared to just eating damage and healing up. i havnt been able to wear light armor...(you know...the armor i as a mag user am supposed to use?) since around the orsinium patch. i mean don't get me wrong...i can throw on LA and hit like a mack truck...but i will not survive any stamina toon i come across.

the *** thing about this thread, is that stamina toons CAN stack weapon damage and stamina, ignoring magick completely, and be the most defensive thing on the field...and other than sorc? we're all left in the dust (and seriously...magsorc stacked for damage? does not do that great damage anywway...can't imagine if their defense were nerfed and they had to start fighting like templar/DK...no one would play them) the way mag classes in general should play is very similar to how sorcs play. but letting their MAGICK eat damage via DAMAGE SHIELDS!! like stamina toons rely on NOT getting hit at ALL by using STAMINA for dodgerolling and recasting shuffle!

so...instead of comming on here and bitching about mag players shielding up and not dieing...how about you show me an instance of one killing you...i for one believe that there needs to be a nerf to shuffle or removal. and there needs to be a lifting of the battlespirit debuff on damage shields, and a removal of the nerf to dodge rolling...

as far as healing? hell they should just take out battle spirit all together, reimplement the 1.5-1 health to mag/stam ratio, and nerf healing in PVE/PVP alltogether, i've run a few instances in PVE land recenly as a templar...and with one hand and sword, stacked blessed tree, major mending, and 1300 spell power/ 34k mag....i was pulling off 30k breath of life casts...that....is...dumb...my resto staff HoT was ticking for 4.5k a second....just dumb

Rebornlogic wrote: »

why ZoS is it ok to have almost the whole pvp community running either mag DK , or Mag Sorc, running infinite dmg shields against all stam users.
is it fair ZoS, to be able to pop 20k dmg shields back to back with infinite magicka pool because of mutilple sets. dmg sheild really need to be nerfed ZoS. obviously its broken as hell thats why everyone you see running around dueling, and in cyrois running either a mag dk or mag sorc, poping dmg shields

Now you know how magicka felt pre 1T

Lol I'm sure he was being sarcastic

Synfaer wrote: »

Give 2 naked PvP players a stick each and tell them to go at it....

Within 5 seconds one player will have a sharpened stick and the other will have two short dual wielded sharpened sticks

PvP will never be balanced.

Seems in this scenario the balance is created by the players. Both are given the same thing but use it in different ways.

I don't know if you've been actually paying attention OP, stamina is the meta, especially stam sorcs.

Magic classes still pvp ????????????