Soul assault is way too powerful for just 100 ultimate.

ssewallb14_ESO · October 2016

If you're having problems with soul assault you're very squishy. You're going to get 1-shot by proc builds, dawnbreaker, overload, snipers, bombers, cold fire, gank builds, etc.

Are you low CP? Do you have a heal on your bar? Are you running impen?

Alucardo · October 2016

Haven't seen this ultimate used much. Mages are having too much fun wiping everything with the destro ultimate.

Minalan · October 2016

Just block it. My heavens, why all of the potato drama?

Solus wrote: »

itscompton wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

Invisibility pots! I never though about that thanks ill test that when i get home. Don't get me wrong I enjoy a challenge but it just seems like that ability is extremely powerful, a little too powerful. When I slot that ability on my dk it hits for 57k!! For only 100 ulti that's insane to me. An ability to counter my evasiveness is fine but it shouldn't be a point, shoot and BOOM! dead!. Much like vipers and some other proc sets it requires little to no skill to achieve victory. I just hope this doesn't become a trend with zenimax.

It should be interrupt able.

And they should add a 2 second build up for Dawnbreaker before it does any damage.

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I think the cost and damage is fine, but it should be dodge-able just like the bow ultimate.

Only if a minion appears to shoot the beam so the player can continue to dps like the bow ultimate.

Dawnbreaker isnt instantaneous, nor does it have a 28 meter range.

Not instantaneous? You can cancel the animation. You can also DB someone right after a gap closer that snares your enemy. Telling me that range matters is disingenuous at best.

Rex-Umbra · October 2016

SA barely touches me if I block.

KramUzibra · October 2016

Essiaga wrote: »

It should be reworked but ZOS created Overload and can't figure out how to balance it with magicka having any out of class burst damage. Instead we get a plate of poop with our out of class skills, in this case a long ask channel. Vamp skills are great, dawn breaker and fire, to a much lesser extent, are not. Resto is nice, but it's not Vigor, and you have to actually equip Resto. There's always a down side with magicka. Stam is upside.

I don't like using SA cause i would rather actually play my character and long OP channels are time i don't have to actively play. I only use RD under 20 % in pvp as well though. I also hate pots and poisons. They are like relieving the player of accountability.

I agree with you yet SA is being used by stam builds so it's just another Op weapon for stam users.

KramUzibra · October 2016

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

If you're having problems with soul assault you're very squishy. You're going to get 1-shot by proc builds, dawnbreaker, overload, snipers, bombers, cold fire, gank builds, etc.

Are you low CP? Do you have a heal on your bar? Are you running impen?

Nope I'm good with all those abilities. Some times the proc builds get me but over all I can combat against them. I run impending on small pieces and infused on large. In a duel I have over 20k health. I'm over the cap in cp and after I switch my cp around to give me more resistant to the ability I now have 20k spell resist. Still wearing full med SA melts my stam dk

KramUzibra · October 2016

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

SA barely touches me if I block.

Do u wear full med gear?

KramUzibra · October 2016

Screw it I'm just going to put SA on my back bar, act like goku and Kamehameha every body!!

RajinPVP · October 2016

Its only strong if you want to kill 1 person thats being zerged down other than that its weak in 1v1

KramUzibra · October 2016

b4nn3d7337 wrote: »

Its only strong if you want to kill 1 person thats being zerged down other than that its weak in 1v1

Maybe in your experience probably because you either wear heavy armor and can take a hit like that or your in light armor stacking shields.

itscompton · October 2016

KramUzibra wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

I actually had a duel on my Mag DK vs a MagPlar in IC earlier (great fight btw ). I use both Soul Assault on my front bar for quick resources and Light's Champion on my back for resources and a good heal. We were both Heavy Armor builds with Sword and Board

The battle lasted a bit, but in the end I lost. No surprise there Don't have as much practice on my DK as I have on my NBs, and the guy was really skilled

The Soul Assault however, barely did anything. There were times it did major damage, but not enough. The Templar simply blocked and healed through it, with the occasional debuff.

So in the end, the Ultimate is strong against certain builds, but not that great against others (Sword and Board Heavy builds). It has great range, and the potential to be deadly after a CC like Flame Clench. However, I don't find it to be OP in any way.

I like it on my Mag DK. Fast resources due to the low cost

OK so tell me them what ultimates can do what SA does to med armor build to the heavy or light. I can't think of any ultimate that has a similar affect in light or heavy builds

Dbos or incap (if people even still use this) on a light armor build hits really hard. Dbos is the best ultimate in the game right now. And even on a medium armor build you can block it and then hit rally right after with major mending and you'll be back up to fill health.

Don't know what dbos is but encap is not that powerfull. Again if skilled enough u can listen for the initial sound encap gives off right before hot hits and dodge or block and it does nothing. Plus light armorbuilds have sheilds. Definitely not as power as SA.

You are trippin bro. U can listen for the initial sound of Encap? give me some of what you're smoking please. Incap is absolutely instant, if somebody uses it there is no warning and no time to react. For 50 ult it hits a light armor opponent in PvP for 12K+ when it crits (which is just about always for high crit stam builds) plus knocks them down for 2 full seconds and it debuffs healing on the opponent while buffing the damage of the user. All that and it can be weaved into an animation cancelling burst with heavy attacks and other abilities. How is that not powerful?

exeeter702 · October 2016

Sorry but the ult is in a great place right now..

It works best against neckbeards that run viper+veli/selene+X.

You want to have a discussion about the potency of an ultimate that in some way now gives magicka builds a tool against the stam meta (and still not really if you have half a brain). Lets talk about stamina builds resource concerns or lack thereof, lets talk about unchained, or 80 percent dodge chance and the potency of gap closers.

You claiming that you have no problems with the vegetable head proc set builds in circulation right now seems more like a disclaimer or some type of redirection. They are by far the bigger issue than a single target 4 second channeled ultimate that ticks for 4.5k a second at best in pvp against half smart players.

exeeter702 · October 2016

itscompton wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

I actually had a duel on my Mag DK vs a MagPlar in IC earlier (great fight btw ). I use both Soul Assault on my front bar for quick resources and Light's Champion on my back for resources and a good heal. We were both Heavy Armor builds with Sword and Board

The battle lasted a bit, but in the end I lost. No surprise there Don't have as much practice on my DK as I have on my NBs, and the guy was really skilled

The Soul Assault however, barely did anything. There were times it did major damage, but not enough. The Templar simply blocked and healed through it, with the occasional debuff.

So in the end, the Ultimate is strong against certain builds, but not that great against others (Sword and Board Heavy builds). It has great range, and the potential to be deadly after a CC like Flame Clench. However, I don't find it to be OP in any way.

I like it on my Mag DK. Fast resources due to the low cost

OK so tell me them what ultimates can do what SA does to med armor build to the heavy or light. I can't think of any ultimate that has a similar affect in light or heavy builds

Dbos or incap (if people even still use this) on a light armor build hits really hard. Dbos is the best ultimate in the game right now. And even on a medium armor build you can block it and then hit rally right after with major mending and you'll be back up to fill health.

Don't know what dbos is but encap is not that powerfull. Again if skilled enough u can listen for the initial sound encap gives off right before hot hits and dodge or block and it does nothing. Plus light armorbuilds have sheilds. Definitely not as power as SA.

You are trippin bro. U can listing for the intitial sound of Encap? give me some of what you're smoking please. Incap is absolutely instant, if somebody uses it there is no warning. For 50 ult it hits a light armor opponent in PvP for 12K+ when it crits (which is just about always for high crit stam builds) plus it debuffs healing on the opponent while buffing the damage of the user. How is that not powerful?

because dude, he is a stam build himself and doesnt lose to incap, therefor its not an issue and is perfectly fine

/s

itscompton · October 2016

Alucardo wrote: »

Haven't seen this ultimate used much. Mages are having too much fun wiping everything with the destro ultimate.

The destro ult is amazing in PvE but garbage for PvP. I've got Eye of the Storm and did a bit of testing with a buddy last night. He's a stam DK in heavy armor and when I hit him with the ult while fully buffed to 4.2K spell damage with 37K magic it ticked for 2.5K damage per second. He just stood there, no blocking or damage mitigation skills in play. Another friend I was dueling is a light armor sorc and it ticked for 4.5K each tick, but he just refreshed hardened+healing ward every couple of seconds and streaked around so I couldn't add much to the DPS and after seven seconds his health bar was still full.

Waffennacht · October 2016

itscompton wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Haven't seen this ultimate used much. Mages are having too much fun wiping everything with the destro ultimate.

The destro ult is amazing in PvE but garbage for PvP. I've got Eye of the Storm and did a bit of testing with a buddy last night. He's a stam DK in heavy armor and when I hit him with the ult while fully buffed to 4.2K spell damage with 37K magic it ticked for 2.5K damage per second. He just stood there, no blocking or damage mitigation skills in play. Another friend I was dueling is a light armor sorc and it ticked for 4.5K each tick, but he just refreshed hardened+healing ward every couple of seconds and streaked around so I couldn't add much to the DPS and after seven seconds his health bar was still full.

2.5K dps for an AoE in PvP is pretty solid. Combine it with Curse, Wrath, Entropy, Frag, (i dunno if it's possible, but I get the feeling you could possibly get some of the other low costing ults in at the end) you got yourself some high dps.

Dks like that new similar monster set, grothdar i think? Plus this plus talons, plus whip.

I think you're test however was against the best build to handle such an ability.

Dots, AoEs, and similar moves do very poorly against heavy temps or DKs, heals, resistance, buffs can all bring a dot to near uselessness in a moment.

Softer opponents will have a much harder time countering such moves as they can't be dodged or purged (for some builds)

I think it it just wrecked everything it would be OP, I am starting to see a sort of cheesy balance

Edziu · October 2016

to those who think here about stamina qq about SA op......as for me it in compare to bow ult is insane...I dotn want to nerf etc SA...I just want to complete bow ult...not its sick and some worthless for me...175 cost ult, all attacks you can dodge if you cant inerrput while it is as balista, oyu need just 2x rolldodge to dodgae 90% damage of this ult while onlr 100 ulti for great SA, you cant any counter this, much better is just throw this crap bow ult and slot SA as stam build or also just meteor, both are more worth than crap expensive almost useless ult which you can without any problem counter it like nb cloak

exeeter702 · October 2016

Edziu wrote: »

to those who think here about stamina qq about SA op......as for me it in compare to bow ult is insane...I dotn want to nerf etc SA...I just want to complete bow ult...not its sick and some worthless for me...175 cost ult, all attacks you can dodge if you cant inerrput while it is as balista, oyu need just 2x rolldodge to dodgae 90% damage of this ult while onlr 100 ulti for great SA, you cant any counter this, much better is just throw this crap bow ult and slot SA as stam build or also just meteor, both are more worth than crap expensive almost useless ult which you can without any problem counter it like nb cloak

Sorry but you have no business slotting the bow ult unless you are going to focus on the bow overall. Its not a slot and forget nice addition to your back bar poison injection utility. And as so, there are far more variables available in game to further increase the potency of the bow ult. Sorry you have to commit a set or 2 for it and the bow in general but that is the intention. You can shave off 5 percent of its cost on top of any class passives via certain sets. You can increase its damage over all and specifically to players via certain sets (lets not forget toxic barrage - the one morph that puts it in parallel to SA - delivers overall more damage).

And lets not ignore the bow ults synergy with the skill line that it belongs to. Between focus aim and long shots, you are looking at a very potent long range ultimate.

"but it can be dodged!" Cry me a *** river man... play any form of ranged build in pvp right now and let me know what 5 letter word you see on your screen 99 percent of the time.

So stop please. Stam wants another ultimate that they can just throw on the bar without having to build around it and expect it to be tip top.

KramUzibra · October 2016

itscompton wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

I actually had a duel on my Mag DK vs a MagPlar in IC earlier (great fight btw ). I use both Soul Assault on my front bar for quick resources and Light's Champion on my back for resources and a good heal. We were both Heavy Armor builds with Sword and Board

The battle lasted a bit, but in the end I lost. No surprise there Don't have as much practice on my DK as I have on my NBs, and the guy was really skilled

The Soul Assault however, barely did anything. There were times it did major damage, but not enough. The Templar simply blocked and healed through it, with the occasional debuff.

So in the end, the Ultimate is strong against certain builds, but not that great against others (Sword and Board Heavy builds). It has great range, and the potential to be deadly after a CC like Flame Clench. However, I don't find it to be OP in any way.

I like it on my Mag DK. Fast resources due to the low cost

OK so tell me them what ultimates can do what SA does to med armor build to the heavy or light. I can't think of any ultimate that has a similar affect in light or heavy builds

Dbos or incap (if people even still use this) on a light armor build hits really hard. Dbos is the best ultimate in the game right now. And even on a medium armor build you can block it and then hit rally right after with major mending and you'll be back up to fill health.

Don't know what dbos is but encap is not that powerfull. Again if skilled enough u can listen for the initial sound encap gives off right before hot hits and dodge or block and it does nothing. Plus light armorbuilds have sheilds. Definitely not as power as SA.

You are trippin bro. U can listen for the initial sound of Encap? give me some of what you're smoking please. Incap is absolutely instant, if somebody uses it there is no warning and no time to react. For 50 ult it hits a light armor opponent in PvP for 12K+ when it crits (which is just about always for high crit stam builds) plus knocks them down for 2 full seconds and it debuffs healing on the opponent while buffing the damage of the user. All that and it can be weaved into an animation cancelling burst with heavy attacks and other abilities. How is that not powerful?

No sir I'm not "trippin" I have incredible balance and situational awareness

U absolutely can hear encap right before it hits. Idk maybe it's because i wear turtle beaches. Also where are your shields Mr light armor?? Encap does not crit shields. Iv had 30k+SA on my death recap! An ulti that can't be dodged, stunned or interrupted that only costs 100 ulti, and on my tool tip, a stam dks! It's over 63k! In a 1v1 against a full medium armor build its a no skill point, shoot and dead! No other ultimate against any other armor type build can do what SA does to a full medium armor build.

exeeter702 wrote: »

Sorry but the ult is in a great place right now..

It works best against neckbeards that run viper+veli/selene+X.

You want to have a discussion about the potency of an ultimate that in some way now gives magicka builds a tool against the stam meta (and still not really if you have half a brain). Lets talk about stamina builds resource concerns or lack thereof, lets talk about unchained, or 80 percent dodge chance and the potency of gap closers.

You claiming that you have no problems with the vegetable head proc set builds in circulation right now seems more like a disclaimer or some type of redirection. They are by far the bigger issue than a single target 4 second channeled ultimate that ticks for 4.5k a second at best in pvp against half smart players.

Yeah one problem though the vast majority of loses iv experience with SA has been against stam builds.

exeeter702 wrote: »

itscompton wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

I actually had a duel on my Mag DK vs a MagPlar in IC earlier (great fight btw ). I use both Soul Assault on my front bar for quick resources and Light's Champion on my back for resources and a good heal. We were both Heavy Armor builds with Sword and Board

The battle lasted a bit, but in the end I lost. No surprise there Don't have as much practice on my DK as I have on my NBs, and the guy was really skilled

The Soul Assault however, barely did anything. There were times it did major damage, but not enough. The Templar simply blocked and healed through it, with the occasional debuff.

So in the end, the Ultimate is strong against certain builds, but not that great against others (Sword and Board Heavy builds). It has great range, and the potential to be deadly after a CC like Flame Clench. However, I don't find it to be OP in any way.

I like it on my Mag DK. Fast resources due to the low cost

OK so tell me them what ultimates can do what SA does to med armor build to the heavy or light. I can't think of any ultimate that has a similar affect in light or heavy builds

Dbos or incap (if people even still use this) on a light armor build hits really hard. Dbos is the best ultimate in the game right now. And even on a medium armor build you can block it and then hit rally right after with major mending and you'll be back up to fill health.

Don't know what dbos is but encap is not that powerfull. Again if skilled enough u can listen for the initial sound encap gives off right before hot hits and dodge or block and it does nothing. Plus light armorbuilds have sheilds. Definitely not as power as SA.

You are trippin bro. U can listing for the intitial sound of Encap? give me some of what you're smoking please. Incap is absolutely instant, if somebody uses it there is no warning. For 50 ult it hits a light armor opponent in PvP for 12K+ when it crits (which is just about always for high crit stam builds) plus it debuffs healing on the opponent while buffing the damage of the user. How is that not powerful?

because dude, he is a stam build himself and doesnt lose to incap, therefor its not an issue and is perfectly fine

/s

Correction sir iv lost a great deal to encap! Iv since Learned how to combat against the ability. I attempted to do the same thing with SA and iv yet to find a solution.

KramUzibra · October 2016

exeeter702 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

to those who think here about stamina qq about SA op......as for me it in compare to bow ult is insane...I dotn want to nerf etc SA...I just want to complete bow ult...not its sick and some worthless for me...175 cost ult, all attacks you can dodge if you cant inerrput while it is as balista, oyu need just 2x rolldodge to dodgae 90% damage of this ult while onlr 100 ulti for great SA, you cant any counter this, much better is just throw this crap bow ult and slot SA as stam build or also just meteor, both are more worth than crap expensive almost useless ult which you can without any problem counter it like nb cloak

Sorry but you have no business slotting the bow ult unless you are going to focus on the bow overall. Its not a slot and forget nice addition to your back bar poison injection utility. And as so, there are far more variables available in game to further increase the potency of the bow ult. Sorry you have to commit a set or 2 for it and the bow in general but that is the intention. You can shave off 5 percent of its cost on top of any class passives via certain sets. You can increase its damage over all and specifically to players via certain sets (lets not forget toxic barrage - the one morph that puts it in parallel to SA - delivers overall more damage).

And lets not ignore the bow ults synergy with the skill line that it belongs to. Between focus aim and long shots, you are looking at a very potent long range ultimate.

"but it can be dodged!" Cry me a *** river man... play any form of ranged build in pvp right now and let me know what 5 letter word you see on your screen 99 percent of the time.

So stop please. Stam wants another ultimate that they can just throw on the bar without having to build around it and expect it to be tip top.

It can be reflected with the dks wings.

Edziu · October 2016

exeeter702 wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

to those who think here about stamina qq about SA op......as for me it in compare to bow ult is insane...I dotn want to nerf etc SA...I just want to complete bow ult...not its sick and some worthless for me...175 cost ult, all attacks you can dodge if you cant inerrput while it is as balista, oyu need just 2x rolldodge to dodgae 90% damage of this ult while onlr 100 ulti for great SA, you cant any counter this, much better is just throw this crap bow ult and slot SA as stam build or also just meteor, both are more worth than crap expensive almost useless ult which you can without any problem counter it like nb cloak

Sorry but you have no business slotting the bow ult unless you are going to focus on the bow overall. Its not a slot and forget nice addition to your back bar poison injection utility. And as so, there are far more variables available in game to further increase the potency of the bow ult. Sorry you have to commit a set or 2 for it and the bow in general but that is the intention. You can shave off 5 percent of its cost on top of any class passives via certain sets. You can increase its damage over all and specifically to players via certain sets (lets not forget toxic barrage - the one morph that puts it in parallel to SA - delivers overall more damage).

And lets not ignore the bow ults synergy with the skill line that it belongs to. Between focus aim and long shots, you are looking at a very potent long range ultimate.

"but it can be dodged!" Cry me a *** river man... play any form of ranged build in pvp right now and let me know what 5 letter word you see on your screen 99 percent of the time.

So stop please. Stam wants another ultimate that they can just throw on the bar without having to build around it and expect it to be tip top.

so give me moment, I will equip widowmaker with viper sting on bow, supposedly widowmaker proc viper on bow, add to ths snipe and welcome new cancer build....

this thread isnt about all possible things to balance between stamina nd magica...this is about SA with which I dont have to much problem, problem is between this and bow ult, lets make dodgable also SA channeling ulti, yes, bow ulti also is channeling so why it is dodgable? for what I should take toxic barrage to use? maybe this have similiar full daame to SA but it is still DODGABLE as channeled skill
what about interrupt this 2x more expensive ult than SA which cant be interrupted or stoped by someone else?
yes incpa strike etc are powerfull but then why now expensiva bow ult should be just a junk, what about very big if not the biggest QQ on PTS about useless destro ulti until zeni buffed this, so why now we should have this 1 ulti useless while you also got "buffed" SA?

FriedEggSandwich · October 2016

OP I know you're a stam class but if it's just for a duel could you afford to slot and use a ward like harness magicka? Not sure how it scales with no light armour but I'm sure you'd get some of the magicka cost back through use. Wards are the only effective counter I can think of if blocking isn't working. It would certainly take your opponent by surprise lol.

KramUzibra · October 2016

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

OP I know you're a stam class but if it's just for a duel could you afford to slot and use a ward like harness magicka? Not sure how it scales with no light armour but I'm sure you'd get some of the magicka cost back through use. Wards are the only effective counter I can think of if blocking isn't working. It would certainly take your opponent by surprise lol.

I have the next 3 days off so I'll do more testing. I think harness magicka scales off of your mag pool but I'll try it.

KramUzibra · October 2016

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

OP I know you're a stam class but if it's just for a duel could you afford to slot and use a ward like harness magicka? Not sure how it scales with no light armour but I'm sure you'd get some of the magicka cost back through use. Wards are the only effective counter I can think of if blocking isn't working. It would certainly take your opponent by surprise lol.

Also fried egg sandwichz are delicious! Especially with a little runny yolk and some chz!

FriedEggSandwich · October 2016

KramUzibra wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

OP I know you're a stam class but if it's just for a duel could you afford to slot and use a ward like harness magicka? Not sure how it scales with no light armour but I'm sure you'd get some of the magicka cost back through use. Wards are the only effective counter I can think of if blocking isn't working. It would certainly take your opponent by surprise lol.

I have the next 3 days off so I'll do more testing. I think harness magicka scales off of your mag pool but I'll try it.

Yeah I meant the magicka return scaling, was thinking of your poor magicka pool if you had to use it. At least if it gave you some magicka back it wouldn't be so bad, not sure it does at zero light armour though. The ward will inherit your damage reduction from ele defender and thick skinned so should be tough enough to help you soak up some damage. I imagine its cost will be your biggest issue should you decide to use it. Might be worth it for a specific duel.

Volrion · October 2016

I don't see the fuss... The tool tip makes it look great, so I gave it a go.

Switched it out after about an hour. It's a bit lackluster in my opinion.

The counter is pretty easy; Block, heal repeat.

It's not that much damage considering how long the channel goes for.

You can easily heal through it if you're paying attention and play it right.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · October 2016

danno8 wrote: »

A quick repost from another thread on some math on Soul Assault.

"70k reduced to 35k in PvP, then reduced by another 15% since all stamina builds are running with a minimum 20k spell resistance (most magicka builds will have around 10k penetration).

So that 70k is really only around 30k over 4 seconds, or around 7.5k per second.

The thing is, most of these stamina builds are using S+B, so the cost of blocking a tick of damage uses around 1300 stamina. That 7k per second gets reduced again by 20% (S+B passive) and 15%(Deflect Bolts passive). So if you are keeping track that would be only around 20k over 4 seconds, or 5k per second.

Blocking in and of itself will cut the damage in half with no extra passives or boosts. So we get the final amount of around 2.5k per second.

It is easy to simply absorb all the damage at the cost a 4-5 thousand stamina and maybe 10k total damage over 4 seconds. Pretty sure vigor will cover that easily. "

Now I almost exclusively PvP on my magplar but the technique is basically the same. Block and heal.

this is a great write up but you forgot to mention CP, on most of my toons, i run about 18% into both eledefnder and the physical one AND 13% into hardy, which reduces dots(whi9ch Soul assault is counted as cause in zoslogic channel=dot) even more, so on top of everything you have said, you can remove at least 30% more for player that have a similar set up.

xericdx · October 2016

KramUzibra wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

OP I know you're a stam class but if it's just for a duel could you afford to slot and use a ward like harness magicka? Not sure how it scales with no light armour but I'm sure you'd get some of the magicka cost back through use. Wards are the only effective counter I can think of if blocking isn't working. It would certainly take your opponent by surprise lol.

I have the next 3 days off so I'll do more testing. I think harness magicka scales off of your mag pool but I'll try it.

It scales of Magicka pool like the other magicka shields (Hardened ward, healing ward, etc.)

Edziu · October 2016

uhh...1 thing about bow ulti and SA...against magica builds ok...pretty ok..problem is agains other stam builds, you as magica build with SA you can nice dps stam build...while bow ults are mostly just dodged and then useless against stam builds, here is problem

Bryanonymous · October 2016

it's really only 100 ulti? Damn, might have to try it again in PvE. :P

psychotic13 · October 2016

KramUzibra wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

OP I know you're a stam class but if it's just for a duel could you afford to slot and use a ward like harness magicka? Not sure how it scales with no light armour but I'm sure you'd get some of the magicka cost back through use. Wards are the only effective counter I can think of if blocking isn't working. It would certainly take your opponent by surprise lol.

I have the next 3 days off so I'll do more testing. I think harness magicka scales off of your mag pool but I'll try it.

Correct, Harness Magicka and Hardened Ward scale from only Max Magicka and not spell damage aswell.