Video proof could help argue my point. I

OnyxProphet wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

I hope this

Tryxus wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

Solus wrote: »

Should cost more, and should be interruptible. If i cant dodge it, it should be something that could be stopped. Basically anything that is channeled is block/bash-stun-able. it shouldnt be a "channel until dead" ability.

Perfect solution!

It used to be interruptable and unblockable, but they changed that. They also increased the damage of the ulti by 15%

So... prob not gonna happen.

I don't understand the logic in that. I hope using invisibility pots work. I don't want to have to resort to heavy armor to combat this ability.

PVP is rock, paper, scissors. A light armor character SHOULD do more DPS at range than a medium or heavy armor. A medium armored character has stealth and shouldn't be walking face first into a cloth caster...you are meant to die in that lineup. Dueling innately benefits heavy and light armor as each combatant knows and agrees to the fight. Medium armor benefits surprise combat, which doesn't happen in dueling unless you start invis somehow.

So yes, you are dying and that is supposed to happen in a duel. You have neither the range nor the resistance to survive in a duel.

Go stealth kill clothies in Cyrodil, start the duel invisible, or attack things not focused on you.

Negative, I run two handed and bow. I have range and evasiveness. I win 80% of my duels against every single class the only exception is this SA ability and the occasional proc sets. I can't start invisible I'm a dk. My survivability is fine with timing roll dodges and blocking certain abilities. Your over generalizing medium builds.

Lol... as a magicka user... just be quiet!

I've never killed anyone remotely good with it. Pretty much only glass canon nightblades.

There's something ironic about nightblades complaining about a powerful cheap ultimate... Not like they have a class ultimate that can do high burst damage at an amazingly low cost... Oh wait they can as well.

Guess it's not nice having a counter when you're used to being able to rolly polly/cloak/fear your way out of almost anything.

You are all wrong!

/dance is the most OP.

Dawn breaker is way to powerful for 125

LegacyDM wrote: »

Dawn breaker is way to powerful for 125

How, its not instantaneous

ArchMikem wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

On several occasions Iv been soul assaulted to death! Literally! Usually my opponent starts with a preliminary ability like javelin or poison inject fallowed by a soul assault until I die. I'm a med armor dk running hundings and marksman. Any suggestions to combat this ability?

Break free from the knockback/stun and just block and heal through it, I've seen many, many people do that and come out of it with still most of their health, in which they proceed to have their way with me.

I'm a med armor stam dk, I did exactly what u said and I did survive with a sliver of life left. I then got immediately sheild charged and died. I did testing last night and invisibility pots do not work, stuns do not work, it is not interruptible and blocking works to an extent until the ability is finished and you practically have no health and barely any stam to do anything before they hit u with pretty much any attack to finish u off. The only class I have a hard time fighting are stam nightblade running proc sets. With that being said I will admit when I attached SA on my bar against a skilled nightblade using vipers I was to apply a couple dots including poison inject fallowed by SA and I got the win every time. I noticed when fighting magicka users they simply stack sheilds until SA ends. Heavy armor bull and just eat it. So the problem is seems to be with medium armor builds. Also I'm a stam build and SA when buffed hits for 64k on my toot tip. 64k dmg, 100 ult, can't dodge, cant stun, cant interrupt only block and hope u don't die. I understand from a pvp perspective this ability leaves the caster vulnerable but in a 1v1 this not the case since your only worried about 1 opponent. I agree encap is super cheap, but their are ways to counter that ability completely. Like listen for the abilities initial sound and roll dodge or block. Meteor is a similar ability in the sense that the only counter is to block but even then the initial dmg especially when block is practically nothing and u can just walk out of the aoe plus it's twice the cost of SA.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I do this. I will continue to do this. Sometimes it insta melts people. Other times it's best used after someone tries going ham on you and runs out of stamina. Yet sometimes people shrug it off like a wet noodle. It does happen.

You can look at it like someone is one shotting you but most of the time I've casted a half dozen shields and heals eating up procs, roots and gap closers. Then it dings ... BLAMMO!

I usually follow it up with Radiant Oppression to make sure. For the record people have eaten this combo 5 times in one duel. It is not an I Win button against many players.

Against medium build its is! Even when I use it against other medium builds. No other ultimate can do this.

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Really ? Did you really die on several occasions to soul assault ...?

Yes but only when I run my medium armor on my dk. I don't give up easily and iv attempted to combat the ability and failed almost every time. The only exception is when I dueld an unskilled stamplar and invited him right after he dump is ult in a previous duel. I was able to stack nox breath, claws and poison inject and get his life down enough so when he activated SA my dots finished him off.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

You're right about medium armor. Ironically I only use it because it's one of the few things that works against Heavy Armor. You're just an innocent bystander.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

You're right about medium armor. Ironically I only use it because it's one of the few things that works against Heavy Armor. You're just an innocent bystander.

All I'm asking is maybe a stun, or an interrupt hell even if I have to resort to crafting invis pots and wasting it on breaking the SA I would be ok with that. At least some way to combat this ability. Allow me to reiterate I'm looking for a way a med stam dk can combat this ability.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

KramUzibra wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

You're right about medium armor. Ironically I only use it because it's one of the few things that works against Heavy Armor. You're just an innocent bystander.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

You're right about medium armor. Ironically I only use it because it's one of the few things that works against Heavy Armor. You're just an innocent bystander.

All I'm asking is maybe a stun, or an interrupt hell even if I have to resort to crafting invis pots and wasting it on breaking the SA I would be ok with that. At least some way to combat this ability. Allow me to reiterate I'm looking for a way a med stam dk can combat this ability.

The only ways I know of are burst healing or lots of shields. Also using sword and board couldn't hurt. Aside from that you might just have found your build's Kryptonite.

I didn't think about S and B. I think I'll just have to restructure my build maybe throw in a couple heavy pieces and see what happens.

Tryxus wrote: »

I actually had a duel on my Mag DK vs a MagPlar in IC earlier (great fight btw ). I use both Soul Assault on my front bar for quick resources and Light's Champion on my back for resources and a good heal. We were both Heavy Armor builds with Sword and Board

The battle lasted a bit, but in the end I lost. No surprise there Don't have as much practice on my DK as I have on my NBs, and the guy was really skilled

The Soul Assault however, barely did anything. There were times it did major damage, but not enough. The Templar simply blocked and healed through it, with the occasional debuff.

So in the end, the Ultimate is strong against certain builds, but not that great against others (Sword and Board Heavy builds). It has great range, and the potential to be deadly after a CC like Flame Clench. However, I don't find it to be OP in any way.

I like it on my Mag DK. Fast resources due to the low cost

OK so tell me them what ultimates can do what SA does to med armor build to the heavy or light. I can't think of any ultimate that has a similar affect in light or heavy builds

KramUzibra wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

I actually had a duel on my Mag DK vs a MagPlar in IC earlier (great fight btw ). I use both Soul Assault on my front bar for quick resources and Light's Champion on my back for resources and a good heal. We were both Heavy Armor builds with Sword and Board

The battle lasted a bit, but in the end I lost. No surprise there Don't have as much practice on my DK as I have on my NBs, and the guy was really skilled

The Soul Assault however, barely did anything. There were times it did major damage, but not enough. The Templar simply blocked and healed through it, with the occasional debuff.

So in the end, the Ultimate is strong against certain builds, but not that great against others (Sword and Board Heavy builds). It has great range, and the potential to be deadly after a CC like Flame Clench. However, I don't find it to be OP in any way.

I like it on my Mag DK. Fast resources due to the low cost

OK so tell me them what ultimates can do what SA does to med armor build to the heavy or light. I can't think of any ultimate that has a similar affect in light or heavy builds

Dbos or incap (if people even still use this) on a light armor build hits really hard. Dbos is the best ultimate in the game right now. And even on a medium armor build you can block it and then hit rally right after with major mending and you'll be back up to fill health.

Seems like Soul Assault was made to counter Medium Armor builds:

- Light Armor users can Shield (Spam) and Heal through it
- Heavy Armor users can Block and Heal through it
- The Ultimate also prevents ppl from going to stealth (Med Armor)