I swear to Azura ZOS

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

If you make a warden class just like how it was planned:

Ice magic
Nature magic
Animal pets
= AKA every single of my fave mmorpg class skill types all bunched into one class.

I will abandon my magicka sorc swiftly and without remorse. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. DO IT ZOS!!!

Tryxus · October 2016

I'd rather have ZOS put Class Change Tokens on the Crown Store (but only temporary, when they add a new class

)

Solus · October 2016

They should have an end game class morph when you get all your class skills maxed and have the morph have their own passives and fourth ability unlocked.

Just my two cents though.

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

Tryxus wrote: »

I'd rather have ZOS put Class Change Tokens on the Crown Store (but only temporary, when they add a new class )

That would be nice. But if they dont do that, I'll happily level 1-50 just to replace my sorc.

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

Cant let this thread die.

Abeille · October 2016

I would reroll TWO of my sorcerers into wardens if they added this, OP.

Well, I would actually reroll three characters total. One of my magicka sorcerers, who is a Cryomancer and would become a Warden focused on the Ice Magic skill line; my stamina sorcerer, who is a "ranger" kind of character and would focus on the pet skill line; and one of my stamina templars, who would have to become my new stamina sorcerer so I am not short of one.

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

Abeille wrote: »

I would reroll TWO of my sorcerers into wardens if they added this, OP.

Well, I would actually reroll three characters total. One of my magicka sorcerers, who is a Cryomancer and would become a Warden focused on the Ice Magic skill line; my stamina sorcerer, who is a "ranger" kind of character and would focus on the pet skill line; and one of my stamina templars, who would have to become my new stamina sorcerer so I am not short of one.

Seriously. The warden class should have been a released class.

Korah_Eaglecry · October 2016

I hope they add 3 more Character Slots if they were to add a Warden Class. Im personally fine with the 4 Classes we have now. But at some time they decide to implement more Classes. I hope they also add more Character Slots for us Altohlics. I need at least 1 per Alliance.

Abeille · October 2016

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

I would reroll TWO of my sorcerers into wardens if they added this, OP.

Well, I would actually reroll three characters total. One of my magicka sorcerers, who is a Cryomancer and would become a Warden focused on the Ice Magic skill line; my stamina sorcerer, who is a "ranger" kind of character and would focus on the pet skill line; and one of my stamina templars, who would have to become my new stamina sorcerer so I am not short of one.

Seriously. The warden class should have been a released class.

Right? I can't be the only one bothered by the fact that we have 10 races but only 4 classes, too. That means that if we make one character of each race we can't have the same number of characters of each class (I have spare sorcerer and templar, myself). Yes this is important.

cmetzger93 · October 2016

Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02

Solus · October 2016

cmetzger93 wrote: »

Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02

Kind of like this idea. Break down barriers, and cherry pick skills? Name your own class anyone?

cmetzger93 · October 2016

Solus wrote: »

cmetzger93 wrote: »

Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02

Kind of like this idea. Break down barriers, and cherry pick skills? Name your own class anyone?

Throwback to oblivion! Lol

Solus · October 2016

cmetzger93 wrote: »

Solus wrote: »

cmetzger93 wrote: »

Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02

Kind of like this idea. Break down barriers, and cherry pick skills? Name your own class anyone?

Throwback to oblivion! Lol

Even more so with Morrowind

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

cmetzger93 wrote: »

Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02

Works in single player games but not mmos

Solus · October 2016

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

cmetzger93 wrote: »

Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02

Works in single player games but not mmos

Well they could start everyone off by not choosing a class, and making you choose as you go through the game? ( meaning you pick up skills by the in game choices you make, rather than a set class in the beginning) Would require alot, ALOT, of in game changes though

We wont see it, but i like the idea.

Anti_Virus · October 2016

Zos please add a ranger class too if you can.

Mojmir · October 2016

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

cmetzger93 wrote: »

Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02

Works in single player games but not mmos

Worked awesome in ultima online

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

Mojmir wrote: »

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

cmetzger93 wrote: »

Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02

Works in single player games but not mmos

Worked awesome in ultima online

Thing is, I dont think ultima is anywhere near the same sophistication as ESO lol.

Silver_Strider · October 2016

Another new class thread?

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Another new class thread?

Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.

Silver_Strider · October 2016

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Another new class thread?

Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.

I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

Silver_Strider wrote: »

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Another new class thread?

Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.

I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.

Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.

So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:

-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.

-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.

-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.

Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?

TheShadowScout · October 2016

Whoever said beating dead horses doesn't help?

On a more serious note, yes, warden should have been there from the beginning, but since it wasn't, that ship has sailed and sunk a long time ago, and at this point, just adding new classes would seriously vex players who have been loyal to ESO since launch.
So it would make a LOT more sense for them to just give the players a way to refit the mentioned skill lines to their existing characters somehow...

One alternative I cannot resist bringing up each time this discussion is had is mine (duh

): https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/240186/class-morph-idea/p1

But that's only one idea. There are other options - world skill lines like vampire or werewolf, guilds with their own DLC and region (want ice magic? Go to the new solstheim isle zone and learn from the winter wizerd nord hermits there; want animal companions? Go to that new tenmar jungle zone to join the beast-tamers; want nature magic? learn from the treeminders in murkmire; or something like that)

Mephilis78 · October 2016

It just needs the classes from the main elder scrolls series, you looked at that class list you'd see insane versatility

Marktoneth3 · October 2016

Ah! my grey warden

Digiman · October 2016

I can see why it was cut as it sounds exactly like the Sorcerer class... Speaks volumes of how fun Sorcerers really are when the people playing them are demanding the replacement with the beta class.

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

Digiman wrote: »

I can see why it was cut as it sounds exactly like the Sorcerer class... Speaks volumes of how fun Sorcerers really are when the people playing them are demanding the replacement with the beta class.

But its not though. There are 100s of ways the warden class can differ from sorcerers.

Silver_Strider · October 2016

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Another new class thread?

Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.

I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.

Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.

So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:

-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.

-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.

-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.

Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?

What exactly does any of that have to do with anything I said?
If anything you should get over the fact ZOS will never add the Warden class.
So yeah, get over it

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

Silver_Strider wrote: »

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Another new class thread?

Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.

I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.

Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.

So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:

-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.

-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.

-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.

Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?

What exactly does any of that have to do with anything I said?
If anything you should get over the fact ZOS will never add the Warden class.
So yeah, get over it

Typical eso "no new classes" arguments which make little to no sense.

Anyway, you say that but lets be honest. Itll happen eventually.

Anyway, if you arent interested. Why are you even on this thread? To be a drag?

Silver_Strider · October 2016

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Another new class thread?

Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.

I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.

Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.

So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:

-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.

-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.

-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.

Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?

What exactly does any of that have to do with anything I said?
If anything you should get over the fact ZOS will never add the Warden class.
So yeah, get over it

Typical eso "no new classes" arguments which make little to no sense.

Anyway, you say that but lets be honest. Itll happen eventually.

Anyway, if you arent interested. Why are you even on this thread? To be a drag?

ZOS can't even balance the 4 classes we have right now, so adding a new class would just exacerbate that issue.
If they ever did add the Warden Class, they'd probably end up selling it in the Crown Store, in which case I'd just leave ESO because it would have officially become P2W at that point and really wouldn't care.

Abeille · October 2016

Silver_Strider wrote: »

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Another new class thread?

Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.

I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.

Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.

So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:

-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.

-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.

-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.

-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.

Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?

What exactly does any of that have to do with anything I said?
If anything you should get over the fact ZOS will never add the Warden class.
So yeah, get over it

This is a MMO. They are always changing and yes, adding a new class is a possible change.

ZOS said they don't have plans for it right now. That is far from "no, never". Especially when you take a look at all the things they added and plan to add that they said before they had no plans to add either.

This is just how MMOs work.