I swear to Azura ZOS
subtlezeroub17_ESO
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If you make a warden class just like how it was planned:
Ice magic
Nature magic
Animal pets
= AKA every single of my fave mmorpg class skill types all bunched into one class.
I will abandon my magicka sorc swiftly and without remorse. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. DO IT ZOS!!!
Edited by subtlezeroub17_ESO on October 22, 2016 7:31PM Ice magic
Nature magic
Animal pets
= AKA every single of my fave mmorpg class skill types all bunched into one class.
I will abandon my magicka sorc swiftly and without remorse. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. DO IT ZOS!!!
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'd rather have ZOS put Class Change Tokens on the Crown Store (but only temporary, when they add a new class
) "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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Solus✭✭✭✭They should have an end game class morph when you get all your class skills maxed and have the morph have their own passives and fourth ability unlocked.
Just my two cents though.The-Pumpkin-King // Stamblade
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subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭I'd rather have ZOS put Class Change Tokens on the Crown Store (but only temporary, when they add a new class )
That would be nice. But if they dont do that, I'll happily level 1-50 just to replace my sorc.1 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would reroll TWO of my sorcerers into wardens if they added this, OP.
Well, I would actually reroll three characters total. One of my magicka sorcerers, who is a Cryomancer and would become a Warden focused on the Ice Magic skill line; my stamina sorcerer, who is a "ranger" kind of character and would focus on the pet skill line; and one of my stamina templars, who would have to become my new stamina sorcerer so I am not short of one.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.2 -
subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭I would reroll TWO of my sorcerers into wardens if they added this, OP.
Well, I would actually reroll three characters total. One of my magicka sorcerers, who is a Cryomancer and would become a Warden focused on the Ice Magic skill line; my stamina sorcerer, who is a "ranger" kind of character and would focus on the pet skill line; and one of my stamina templars, who would have to become my new stamina sorcerer so I am not short of one.
Seriously. The warden class should have been a released class.1 -
Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I hope they add 3 more Character Slots if they were to add a Warden Class. Im personally fine with the 4 Classes we have now. But at some time they decide to implement more Classes. I hope they also add more Character Slots for us Altohlics. I need at least 1 per Alliance.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »I would reroll TWO of my sorcerers into wardens if they added this, OP.
Well, I would actually reroll three characters total. One of my magicka sorcerers, who is a Cryomancer and would become a Warden focused on the Ice Magic skill line; my stamina sorcerer, who is a "ranger" kind of character and would focus on the pet skill line; and one of my stamina templars, who would have to become my new stamina sorcerer so I am not short of one.
Seriously. The warden class should have been a released class.
Right? I can't be the only one bothered by the fact that we have 10 races but only 4 classes, too. That means that if we make one character of each race we can't have the same number of characters of each class (I have spare sorcerer and templar, myself). Yes this is important.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
cmetzger93✭✭✭✭✭Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .022 -
Solus✭✭✭✭cmetzger93 wrote: »Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02
Kind of like this idea. Break down barriers, and cherry pick skills? Name your own class anyone?Edited by Solus on October 23, 2016 4:13AMThe-Pumpkin-King // Stamblade
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cmetzger93✭✭✭✭✭cmetzger93 wrote: »Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02
Kind of like this idea. Break down barriers, and cherry pick skills? Name your own class anyone?
Throwback to oblivion! Lol0 -
Solus✭✭✭✭cmetzger93 wrote: »cmetzger93 wrote: »Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02
Kind of like this idea. Break down barriers, and cherry pick skills? Name your own class anyone?
Throwback to oblivion! Lol
Even more so with MorrowindThe-Pumpkin-King // Stamblade
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subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭cmetzger93 wrote: »Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02
Works in single player games but not mmos1 -
Solus✭✭✭✭subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »cmetzger93 wrote: »Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02
Works in single player games but not mmos
Well they could start everyone off by not choosing a class, and making you choose as you go through the game? ( meaning you pick up skills by the in game choices you make, rather than a set class in the beginning) Would require alot, ALOT, of in game changes though
We wont see it, but i like the idea.The-Pumpkin-King // Stamblade
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Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »cmetzger93 wrote: »Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02
Works in single player games but not mmos
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subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »cmetzger93 wrote: »Not to be different but I kind of like the idea of dropping classes altogether and just choosing a set number of skill lines. I'm sure there are downsides to this idea but it seems pretty interesting and would be more in line with the single player elder scrolls games. My .02
Works in single player games but not mmos
Worked awesome in ultima online
Thing is, I dont think ultima is anywhere near the same sophistication as ESO lol.0 -
subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »Another new class thread?
Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.1 -
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✭✭✭subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »Another new class thread?
Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.
I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.Edited by Silver_Strider on October 23, 2016 5:37AMArgonian forever0 -
subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »Another new class thread?
Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.
I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.
Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.
So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:
-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.
-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.
-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.
Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?
Edited by subtlezeroub17_ESO on October 23, 2016 11:27AM1 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Whoever said beating dead horses doesn't help?
On a more serious note, yes, warden should have been there from the beginning, but since it wasn't, that ship has sailed and sunk a long time ago, and at this point, just adding new classes would seriously vex players who have been loyal to ESO since launch.
So it would make a LOT more sense for them to just give the players a way to refit the mentioned skill lines to their existing characters somehow...
One alternative I cannot resist bringing up each time this discussion is had is mine (duh ): https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/240186/class-morph-idea/p1
But that's only one idea. There are other options - world skill lines like vampire or werewolf, guilds with their own DLC and region (want ice magic? Go to the new solstheim isle zone and learn from the winter wizerd nord hermits there; want animal companions? Go to that new tenmar jungle zone to join the beast-tamers; want nature magic? learn from the treeminders in murkmire; or something like that)0 -
Mephilis78✭✭✭It just needs the classes from the main elder scrolls series, you looked at that class list you'd see insane versatility"'You have suffered for me to win this throne, and I see how you hate jungle. Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you.'" The Many Headed Talos - Michael Kirkbride0 -
Digiman✭✭✭✭✭I can see why it was cut as it sounds exactly like the Sorcerer class... Speaks volumes of how fun Sorcerers really are when the people playing them are demanding the replacement with the beta class.
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subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭I can see why it was cut as it sounds exactly like the Sorcerer class... Speaks volumes of how fun Sorcerers really are when the people playing them are demanding the replacement with the beta class.
But its not though. There are 100s of ways the warden class can differ from sorcerers.
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Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »Another new class thread?
Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.
I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.
Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.
So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:
-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.
-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.
-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.
Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?
What exactly does any of that have to do with anything I said?
If anything you should get over the fact ZOS will never add the Warden class.
So yeah, get over itArgonian forever0 -
subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »Another new class thread?
Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.
I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.
Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.
So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:
-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.
-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.
-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.
Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?
What exactly does any of that have to do with anything I said?
If anything you should get over the fact ZOS will never add the Warden class.
So yeah, get over it
Typical eso "no new classes" arguments which make little to no sense.
Anyway, you say that but lets be honest. Itll happen eventually.
Anyway, if you arent interested. Why are you even on this thread? To be a drag?0 -
Silver_Strider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »Another new class thread?
Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.
I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.
Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.
So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:
-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.
-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.
-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.
Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?
What exactly does any of that have to do with anything I said?
If anything you should get over the fact ZOS will never add the Warden class.
So yeah, get over it
Typical eso "no new classes" arguments which make little to no sense.
Anyway, you say that but lets be honest. Itll happen eventually.
Anyway, if you arent interested. Why are you even on this thread? To be a drag?
ZOS can't even balance the 4 classes we have right now, so adding a new class would just exacerbate that issue.
If they ever did add the Warden Class, they'd probably end up selling it in the Crown Store, in which case I'd just leave ESO because it would have officially become P2W at that point and really wouldn't care.Argonian forever0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Silver_Strider wrote: »Another new class thread?
Wardens arent "new" though. A little research and youd know that. They were canned before launch but some of us feel that we were cheated out of a great class.
I'm well aware of the canned Warden class, so plz drop the attitude. I'm saying new in the way of actually adding it into the game, making it "new", not new as in an original concept.
Theres always nay sayers. Using the same tired excuses of someone who hasnt played an mmo before.
So from the experience of a veteran mmo player. Lets clear the air:
-PvE guys, there will always be a meta shift. Get over it.
-PvP guys, theres no such thing as perfect balance in mmorpgs. Get over it.
-To the people who say, "fix the bugs first". There are separate departments for gameplay and bug fixing. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest no classes. That NEVER works in a AAA mmorpg. It would lead to disaster for balance. Get over it.
-To the people who suggest making skills additional lines. There are some things that are better off as a class. When new lines are added, that means they have to be balanced with ALL classes in mind which can lead to either being OP or UP. While as a new class, it can be easily balanced around its self without considering other classes. Therefore, there are some things that should be class and theres some things that should be world line. So....get over it.
Now that we have that out of the way. Can we return back to topic?
What exactly does any of that have to do with anything I said?
If anything you should get over the fact ZOS will never add the Warden class.
So yeah, get over it
This is a MMO. They are always changing and yes, adding a new class is a possible change.
ZOS said they don't have plans for it right now. That is far from "no, never". Especially when you take a look at all the things they added and plan to add that they said before they had no plans to add either.
This is just how MMOs work.Edited by Abeille on October 23, 2016 1:26PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0
