New Craftable set idea "The Glutton"

Amorpho · October 2016

Just a crazy idea I had for a new craftable set

The Glutton (9 traits)
Max Health (2 pieces)
Max Magicka (3 pieces)
Max Stamina (4 pieces)
Gluttonous Feast (5 pieces):
Allow the consumption of 1 drink and 1 food at the same time. Similar effects stack together.

Basically like TBS but with food and drinks instead of Mundus Stones

What do you think?

Mady · October 2016

Sounds awesome, but insanely op at the same time.

Amorpho · October 2016

Mady wrote: »

Sounds awesome, but insanely op at the same time.

It's 9 traits and why is it OP? No spell damage and no critical damage at all. Not available in jewellery either. I think this set will allow you to mix things up quite a bit.

Drummerx04 · October 2016

I don't know if I understand what you mean by "similar effects stack together"

So if I eat purple food and drink orzorga's drink, I'll have about 10k extra health + the recovery + the purple food extra stats?

Amorpho · October 2016

Drummerx04 wrote: »

I don't know if I understand what you mean by "similar effects stack together"

So if I eat purple food and drink orzorga's drink, I'll have about 10k extra health + the recovery + the purple food extra stats?

Yes, exactly

But no extra damage and no extra crit

Dymence · October 2016

Sounds interesting at first glance, but in what kind of setting would this set really thrive? There's better options for PvE, and I'm not sure it has that much to offer for PvP either.

Amorpho · October 2016

Dymence wrote: »

Sounds interesting at first glance, but in what kind of setting would this set really thrive? There's better options for PvE, and I'm not sure it has that much to offer for PvP either.

I've not really had much time to think about it, but I am sure that it would be really good for something. You could start using Mundus Stones that increase crit or crit chance or weapon and spell damage instead of those focused on regen, because you would get your stat increase and regen through the food+drink.

Vaoh · October 2016

Cool set idea!... But I can see it being far too strong though. Definitely interesting.

Eweroun · October 2016

Amorpho wrote: »

You could start using Mundus Stones that increase crit or crit chance or weapon and spell damage instead of those focused on regen, because you would get your stat increase and regen through the food+drink.

Euh... living in a cave for the last 2 years? Everyone with TBS is using increase crit and crit chance as a boon

Robbmrp · October 2016

As long as it also gives a costume that adds 100 pounds to the characters midsection. Then the name fits....

Would those elitists use this set tho? I doubt most would give up their existing Proc sets just to have a food and drink buff active at the same time. And with all the new recipe's that came with the Witches festival, there might not be much use for it anymore.

DocFrost72 · October 2016

I could see this being REALLY useful for magicka tanks. Esp orzorga's red frothgar + the new double potent brew (max mag max health mag rec).

And there is a reason people don't stack stam or magicka only for damage, you NEED crit and flat damage to hit those great damage numbers. For PvP, however, something like green recovery drinks and orzorgas might be a -touch- too strong.

Enslaved · October 2016

Glutton + Hulking Draugr set + Redguard = 100k stam unkillable master race

Liofa · October 2016

My head filled with different builds already . *theorycrafting intensifies*

This would be totally awesome but I have an objection about similar effects stacking . This would cause even more cancer in PvP even though it looks real good in PvE . More Max Stat stacking is already an issue in PvP . If similar effects wouldn't stack , this would be somewhat balanced set .

Birdovic · October 2016

This sounds like a really fun idea actually. But I also fear it could be a little overpowered.
In case its overpowered though, there could be a simple "75% effectiveness of the 2nd food consumed" rule be included and its all cool again.

runagate · October 2016

It took me an embarrassingly long amount of time in closed beta to realize that food and drink didn't stack. Certainly stacking the same stat bonus is a bad idea, but simultaneous stat bonus and recovery bonus doesn't seem OP.

Amorpho · October 2016

Eweroun wrote: »

Amorpho wrote: »

You could start using Mundus Stones that increase crit or crit chance or weapon and spell damage instead of those focused on regen, because you would get your stat increase and regen through the food+drink.

Euh... living in a cave for the last 2 years? Everyone with TBS is using increase crit and crit chance as a boon

Yes, but with this set you could only choose one. The advantage, though is that you could add the effect of 1 food and 1 drink at the same time.

Amorpho · October 2016

DocFrost72 wrote: »

I could see this being REALLY useful for magicka tanks. Esp orzorga's red frothgar + the new double potent brew (max mag max health mag rec).

And there is a reason people don't stack stam or magicka only for damage, you NEED crit and flat damage to hit those great damage numbers. For PvP, however, something like green recovery drinks and orzorgas might be a -touch- too strong.

I agree with you. Magicka Tanks would love it (since they would not need Crit or Spelldamage for their build). For PVP it would be the same. People would have to sacrifice a 5 piece proc set for this, so I think those leaning more towards tanking would use it.

Amorpho · October 2016

Enslaved wrote: »

Glutton + Hulking Draugr set + Redguard = 100k stam unkillable master race

No, it would only have an insane amount of Health, not of Stamina.

Amorpho · October 2016

I honestly don't think it would be OP either in PVP or PVE. Unless some theorycrafter actually came up with a build that clearly is, I think this is quite a balanced set, giving you a lot of stats and regen but at the expense of DPS. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom why not implement it in the next PTS? After all the community has been wanting new 9 traits sets

Dubhliam · October 2016

Amorpho wrote: »

Mady wrote: »

Sounds awesome, but insanely op at the same time.

It's 9 traits and why is it OP? No spell damage and no critical damage at all. Not available in jewellery either. I think this set will allow you to mix things up quite a bit.

Since there are now drinks that give Max Resource bonuses, this could be potentially OP.
Remember that 1000 Max Magicka ~ 100 Spell damage, and Max Stamina ~ 100 Weapon damage.

Although, in general, I like the proposal.
Much more balanced than some other proposals on this forum that I had the privilege to waste my time reading.

Amorpho · October 2016

Dubhliam wrote: »

Amorpho wrote: »

Mady wrote: »

Sounds awesome, but insanely op at the same time.

It's 9 traits and why is it OP? No spell damage and no critical damage at all. Not available in jewellery either. I think this set will allow you to mix things up quite a bit.

Since there are now drinks that give Max Resource bonuses, this could be potentially OP.
Remember that 1000 Max Magicka ~ 100 Spell damage, and Max Stamina ~ 100 Weapon damage.

Although, in general, I like the proposal.
Much more balanced than some other proposals on this forum that I had the privilege to waste my time reading.

Although I would agree with you, I would then have to ask you: "What about the Necropotence Set?" That takes some players easily beyond the 50k Magicka pool...

BurritoESO · October 2016

So a set that gives a line of each stat, and 4000 mag stam and health from food, and 400 stam health and mag recovery from drink?
That is ridiculous

Amorpho · October 2016

BurritoESO wrote: »

So a set that gives a line of each stat, and 4000 mag stam and health from food, and 400 stam health and mag recovery from drink?
That is ridiculous

Why is it ridiculous? Other than larger pools and larger recovery, you'd have no extra weapon or spell damage or crit damage, nor any other DPS proc.

Gargath · October 2016

Eweroun wrote: »

Amorpho wrote: »

You could start using Mundus Stones that increase crit or crit chance or weapon and spell damage instead of those focused on regen, because you would get your stat increase and regen through the food+drink.

Euh... living in a cave for the last 2 years? Everyone with TBS is using increase crit and crit chance as a boon

Not everyone, or I'm that much defferent using TBS with Shadow and Warrior instead. Already have ~60% crit without Thief, so no need for more.

Totalitarian · October 2016

Wait until you run into the legendary IC sewer boss, the Blazing Shield Templar who runs maxed Imperial Physique, 5 piece glutton, and 2 piece Maulbeth.

Guy's probably going to walk around with >70k HP and just take any kind of attack.

In all honesty, the Glutton set isn't a terrible idea.

gamerguy757 · October 2016

Set idea!

Armor of the Conjurer
(2 piece) Add 967 Max Magicka
(3 piece) Add 967 Max Magicka
(4 piece) Add 967 Max Magicka
(5 piece) Ultimate Conjurer
Your Ultimate becomes "Conjure Xivkyn." The Ultimate costs 200. The pet deals [x] Magic or Physical damage and will attack nearby enemies for 20s. When the Xivkyn is destroyed or expires, you gain 2500 Magicka or Stamina.

Amorpho · October 2016

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Set idea!

Armor of the Conjurer
(2 piece) Add 967 Max Magicka
(3 piece) Add 967 Max Magicka
(4 piece) Add 967 Max Magicka
(5 piece) Ultimate Conjurer
Your Ultimate becomes "Conjure Xivkyn." The Ultimate costs 200. The pet deals [x] Magic or Physical damage and will attack nearby enemies for 20s. When the Xivkyn is destroyed or expires, you gain 2500 Magicka or Stamina.

Post your own threads dude

bellanca6561n · October 2016

An interesting variation on the Clever Alchemist.

As I recall they came very close to allowing, of all things, eating and drinking at one point.

Pardon the digression but I need to know: do any of you use buff beverages? Well...apart from the caffeine and sugar drink you use when playing the game....

kylewwefan · October 2016

I like it! Like it a lot!

Maybe we can get surf n turf, fish n chips, steak n taters, burger fries, bourbon scotch n beer. Every day of the week has different menu bonus LOL!.

Nah, your idea is fine, don't need more complications.