Zero XP from new dolmen mobs; Low XP from special bosses, etc.

Eiagra · October 2016

Anyone else finding that the new dolmen mobs are granting zero XP? I still get a point toward Fighter's Guild skill line, but no actual XP.

Also noticing that special named bosses are granting the same XP as trash mobs.

Not sure if this is an issue with the halloween event / XP changes, an issue with the mobs themselves, or what.

Discovered this at King's Guard dolmen while in skeleton mode, around and before LV 19.

Also noticing (not yet found a reason) that some random mobs are granting low XP (10) while others grant high (200+). For mudcrabs.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · October 2016

I noticed that some of the new (unnamed) Dolmen bosses aren't dropping treasure (including Plunder Skulls which is what made it obvious)--Dread Flesh Collosus and Dread Grievous Twilights that I've seen so far.

Eiagra · October 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

I noticed that some of the new (unnamed) Dolmen bosses aren't dropping treasure (including Plunder Skulls which is what made it obvious)--Dread Flesh Collosus and Dread Grievous Twilights that I've seen so far.

I had just noted that and was about to edit my original post to include it. Now I don't have to, thanks!

But, yeah, we just fought a Dread Flesh Colossus, got a handful of XP for what is a "boss" mob, and no loot even though my sister and I were off the loot cooldown.

Nestor · October 2016

If your taking the bosses down before the Cool Down timer passes, then you get less Exp and normal mob loot, not the boss loot which has the dropped set items. Off timer, you get the normal amount. With tons of players around, you may not be able to do the 3% damage needed to gain exp or loot.

With Mudcrabs, there are two of them, a Tan one and a Brown one. The tan ones have way less health and only give 10% of the exp that the brown ones do. BTW, Wolves and Skeevers also give the low exp too.

Eiagra · October 2016

This was just my sister and I, grouped. Kinda why we've been hanging out at King's Guard Dolmen, it's too out of the way to bounce between so better chance of actually doing 3% damage even if a crowd shows up. We haven't been bouncing, just waiting for the same dolmen, thus definitely off cooldown.

Didn't know about the difference in Mudcrabs. I'll keep a closer look on that from now on, thanks.

Dagoth_Rac · October 2016

I don't think I get XP from dolmen mobs, either. Just a single big burst of XP when dolmen gets closed at end of fight. Not sure if that is intentional or a bug.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · October 2016

Nestor wrote: »

If your taking the bosses down before the Cool Down timer passes, then you get less Exp and normal mob loot, not the boss loot which has the dropped set items. Off timer, you get the normal amount. With tons of players around, you may not be able to do the 3% damage needed to gain exp or loot.

The problem with this theory is that the Plunder Skull timer is 3-4 minutes and the Dolmen respawn is (at lowest) about five--and it's always those two boss types that have that problem for me; it doesn't matter how many people are there hitting the boss, if it's the Dread Flesh Collosus or the Dread Grievous Twilight, there's consistently no loot, including the aforementioned Skull which should drop even if nothing else does.

Nestor · October 2016

I do get exp from Dolmen Mobs when I do them, but I have to do enough damage. But I stand there and tag mobs with Light Bow attacks and see the Exp numbers when they die.

Now, there are two Cool Down Timers with World Bosses. Prior to the Witches Festival, it was about 20 minutes to get the full exp and the boss loot. But it could take up to 20 minutes for a boss to spawn, and it was possible to ride to the next boss before the cool down was off and get the low loot and exp. But, the Witches festival has a 3 to 5 minute cool down on the Plunder Skulls, so you end up getting Bosses and Boss Loot more often than we used to. Not sure what is going to happen after the Festival is over.

As for Dolmens themselves, I have noticed in the past, before 1T, the final Exp varies, and I can't make out the pattern. I have solo'd them and gotten different exp, and I have been around other players and gotten different exp. But, it is always less than the very first time I did a Dolmen after log in.

SilentRaven1972 · October 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

If your taking the bosses down before the Cool Down timer passes, then you get less Exp and normal mob loot, not the boss loot which has the dropped set items. Off timer, you get the normal amount. With tons of players around, you may not be able to do the 3% damage needed to gain exp or loot.

The problem with this theory is that the Plunder Skull timer is 3-4 minutes and the Dolmen respawn is (at lowest) about five--and it's always those two boss types that have that problem for me; it doesn't matter how many people are there hitting the boss, if it's the Dread Flesh Collosus or the Dread Grievous Twilight, there's consistently no loot, including the aforementioned Skull which should drop even if nothing else does.

Yeah, I noticed that on my main as well as multiple other characters. Those particular bosses never drop anything, even when the cooldown timer is well past its mark.

Nestor · October 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

The problem with this theory is that the Plunder Skull timer is 3-4 minutes and the Dolmen respawn is (at lowest) about five--and it's always those two boss types that have that problem for me; it doesn't matter how many people are there hitting the boss, if it's the Dread Flesh Collosus or the Dread Grievous Twilight, there's consistently no loot, including the aforementioned Skull which should drop even if nothing else does.

The Plunder Skull and Dolmen respawn timers are not all that fixed, they vary. I know of a Dolmen that spawns more often than a 5 minute timer, and as long as I can get damage in, I get a skull. But I have to pre-load the landing area with an AoE to get the damage in, waiting until i see it, it's too late, even though it looks like I should be doing damage. Reason, all the other attacks that go there before me did the damage, but the game can not animate that fast enough.

Most people I know have given up on the Dolmens for now, they are too crowded with players.

SilentRaven1972 · October 2016

Nestor wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

The problem with this theory is that the Plunder Skull timer is 3-4 minutes and the Dolmen respawn is (at lowest) about five--and it's always those two boss types that have that problem for me; it doesn't matter how many people are there hitting the boss, if it's the Dread Flesh Collosus or the Dread Grievous Twilight, there's consistently no loot, including the aforementioned Skull which should drop even if nothing else does.

The Plunder Skull and Dolmen respawn timers are not all that fixed, they vary. I know of a Dolmen that spawns more often than a 5 minute timer, and as long as I can get damage in, I get a skull. But I have to pre-load the landing area with an AoE to get the damage in, waiting until i see it, it's too late, even though it looks like I should be doing damage. Reason, all the other attacks that go there before me did the damage, but the game can not animate that fast enough.

Most people I know have given up on the Dolmens for now, they are too crowded with players.

Out-of-the-way dolmens that aren't near anything are usually not as populated. Most people don't like just standing there for several minutes. I don't mind since the xp is usually better, and there are fewer people.