REMOVED FROM GROUP FOR USING FOCUSED AIM. (LOL)

Daraugh · October 2016

Let's see, killed everything up to and including the first boss in a familiar dungeon. The group was wrong for kicking.

GreenSoup2HoT · October 2016

Elite ***hats. Thats all it is. People like that make eso feel like a chore more so then somthing you do to have fun.

Ghettokid · October 2016

LeeroyGankins wrote: »

Ghettokid wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Focused aim is bad

Wrong. If OP enjoys using using it, that means it's good.

I am pretty sure everyone performs better with build they really like than the meta build that they hate to play with.

You can solo VMA however you like.
You can PVP however you like.

If we are in a very DPS dependent group dungeon, and you spam only bow skills, doing half of your potential DPS, you will get booted. Nobody wants to wipe on Valkyn Skoria 20 times just because you are having fun with your rotation.

One day my friend you will become an Orc. And when that day comes you will understand. There will be no more questions without answers. No pizza with pineapple. And no group that boots original players out. The day will come, and I shall lead those who are orcs to wrothgar and leave those filthy khajiits in coldharbour.

LeeroyGankins · October 2016

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I literally started the Banished Cells II Pledge. And I got asked to stop spamming the bow skill Focused Aim, and just for the record. I don't stand there using the move, I use other moves as well. After beating Maw of the Infernal. I got told to stop using it, then one member passed the crown to the guy complaining and I got removed from the group.

Basically, I got removed for using a move someone else didn't like because I was apparently doing bad dps.

Has it really gotten to the stage where you get told how to play the game and what skills you can use? Almost like a ''My way, or the highway'' thing.

What are your thoughts on this?

Some bosses are very DPS dependent. If you were doing an easy dungeon like Fungal Grotto 1, I'm sure nobody would care. However, due to mechanics, some fights like Valkyn Skoria and Velidreth get a lot harder the lower DPS you have. These fights you gotta finish fast.

I believe in fights where a longer duration makes it much harder to win, you should be booted for choosing a sub optimal rotation.

You are free to clear vMA however you want, or PVP in Cyrodil how you want. If you are making people wipe in a tough group dungeon, you should get booted.

Wolfkeks · October 2016

If you can play with it and make good DPS there is nothing wrong with using a bow.
Yes, you could use 2H, you could destro staff, but if you don't like it or if you're unfamiliar with it... you'll do less DPS than with the bow.
If you guys had massive problems, like only doing 8K damage, then I would be worried...
Was it a normal or vet dungeon though? That would be interesting to know

Woeler · October 2016

Single target bow is for roleplayers.

mcurley · October 2016

If you kick someone from group for playing the way they want to then you are an ***. If you kick someone from group after the group is clearly able to clear the content in the dungeon you are an even bigger ***.

FortheloveofKrist · October 2016

OP...play however you like. Yes, knobs like the one who kicked you and others here on the forums will make subjective claims like "it's bad" or "you're bad" or "L2P" or "I eat rat poison cause I cant read tha box!"

Ignore them and do your thing. Find nicer players who don't treat dungeon achievements as though you can put them on your resume. Grouping with nice people will make a world of difference in your gaming enjoyment.

Oh, and next time someone tells you how to play, temporarily change your play style to suit their needs until you get to the last boss, then purposefully screw up whatever mechanic is required to get the double key. Cause whiny leets deserve to have their time wasted too.

SolidusPrime · October 2016

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

OP...play however you like. Yes, knobs like the one who kicked you and others here on the forums will make subjective claims like "it's bad" or "you're bad" or "L2P" or "I eat rat poison cause I cant read tha box!"

Ignore them and do your thing. Find nicer players who don't treat dungeon achievements as though you can put them on your resume. Grouping with nice people will make a world of difference in your gaming enjoyment.

Oh, and next time someone tells you how to play, temporarily change your play style to suit their needs until you get to the last boss, then purposefully screw up whatever mechanic is required to get the double key. Cause whiny leets deserve to have their time wasted too.

I like your style lol.

I've been lucky enough not to encounter many of these types in my long time in the game. It isn't prevalent or the norm - As long as you don't have social anxiety type issues, you really shouldn't have many problems finding groups to run content with. I run bow w/ resto staff all day, and have no issues w/ DPS or finding groups. The elitest *** make me laugh.

FrostFallFox · October 2016

If I do the whole "play how you want" thing, I want to finish the dungeon in a timely manner and heavy armor bow builds won't contribute to how I want to play. And usually the group agrees with this idea.

NordSwordnBoard · October 2016

Acrolas wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

This game has no room for people who want to play as archers

Or people who stand in a veritable zone of danger

Nifty2g · October 2016

Chrysa1is wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Focus aim is bad

I do pretty good damage with it though. On top of that, I provide a lot of DoT so I don't get what the problem is. The group can benefit from it too as it afflicts Minor Fracture. I get is not an AoE move, but my character is good at single 1v1 damage, hence why I use it.

You just got told it's bad, which it is, and you refused to as why it's bad and ask for a build better, there are tons of builds out there and yes the game really is a meta game but it's very demanding to do good damage.
Bow doesn't exactly have a use in PvE

Dagoth_Rac · October 2016

Chrysa1is wrote: »

xRIVALENx wrote: »

Was "Maw of the Infernal" being tanked on the spot or dragged around the room?

tanked on the spot.

I don't know if this is true, but a lot of times ive noticed that a boss being tanked decides to come after me after ive dealt high damage...Do enemies attack those who do the most damage or anything? Can any evidence prove this? The people i run with knew what they were doing and how to tank etc so i don't think they slipped up and let the boss come for me.

You cannot break taunt with damage. However, many bosses have mechanics that ignore taunt. Maw of the Infernal, for instance, will occasionally turn to a random player and start breathing fire in a cone. Player needs to step out of that red cone.

susmitds · October 2016

Focused Aim is bad, huh?

Nifty2g · October 2016

susmitds wrote: »

Focused Aim is bad, huh?

Yes

Tryxus · October 2016

Poison Injection and Endless Hail... that's all you need

susmitds · October 2016

Nifty2g wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Focused Aim is bad, huh?

Yes

Of it is not near the best, but you can easily get 30k DPS on a niche build with it, which is good enough for vet dungeons.

disintegr8 · October 2016

People in group finder are getting worse every day. If the group was killing everything they had to and nobody was dying because of anything you were doing/not doing, kicking you was wrong - unless you were the tank or healer not doing your job because you were too busy with the bow.

Anyone using group finder who expects you to play their way should not be using group finder. As long as the healer is healing, the tank is tanking when necessary and the DD's are attacking the enemy and the enemy are dying, everything should be fine. If someone is still not happy with the group, they should leave, not kick someone else out.

The only time I see bow as an issue in a group dungeon is where large groups of adds are involved - using single target bow skills in this situation is definitely not ideal.

And I disagree with Nifty, there are plenty of uses for bow in PVE. I run 2 tanks and 2 DPS which are all stamina, 3 of them use a bow on their backup bar. I will never listen to anyone tell me that I should not be using them, considering there are very few ranged alternatives for stamina characters in this game.

HatchetHaro · October 2016

With good weapon damage and crit along with buffs, you can get about 15k single target dps just spamming focused aim.
With the same setup, you can get about 30k single target dps by playing normally and doing proper rotations.
So yeah I'd say you're seriously better off acting like a proper DD and not staying at the back of the group just to spam a skill.

WhiteMage · October 2016

The assumption that a snipe-spammers dps is poor is usually valid, but in that case that it is not, supply your group members with parses to get your point across (for PC players). If you can't, as in you don't have an add on for it downloaded, in my experience that typically means your dps is terrible and you just don't know it, regardless of the weapon you are using. (Guess what? We were all there at one point.)

spectre303 · October 2016

sounds like you were grouped with an ESO Bro that takes his dungeon runs way to fn seriously.

Robbmrp · October 2016

You will find people like that at times. The best thing to do is to setup a group with people you know and know how you play. Some people think you have to pull top DPS to clear a dungeon and you don't. Unless your going for a timed run or something like that, the only thing that matters in the end is that you completed it and got what ever achievement you were there for.

Those elitists out there should stop being a tool, stop using the group finder and build their own elite group.

bowmanz607 · October 2016

Using snipe is simply not good for a true dps in pve. Especially when you are talking about the harder dungeons.

That said, if you are clearing all the fights and all that in a pug group who cares. Are you using aoe on mobs and not snipe? If so, cool. It may take longer to kill the boss, but as long as your people are not dieing etc your good.

I healed a dungeon where guy was spamming lethal arrow. It took longer but tank was good and my heals sustained through fight so no one died. We finished and called it a day. But that was BC. If someone was pulling that crap in trials or cradle or something like that they would be gone in a second.

ParaNostram · October 2016

Eh, try hards can be try hards, just do you. Isn't like any of the content is remotely difficult...

worsttankever · October 2016

I've wondered about that myself. Many instances where I seemed to be the only target of interest for bosses. So that is because the tank is not doing their job?

Or the boss will break taunt at times - and there is nothing the tank can do to stop it. It's frustrating as a tank - but not their fault.

LadyNalcarya · October 2016

worsttankever wrote: »

I've wondered about that myself. Many instances where I seemed to be the only target of interest for bosses. So that is because the tank is not doing their job?

Or the boss will break taunt at times - and there is nothing the tank can do to stop it. It's frustrating as a tank - but not their fault.

Some bosses are weird, like second boss of MoL (the dark one) or spider boss in vet fungal... But the tank can quickly retaunt it in any case, or just apply the taunt a bit more often.
There are some bosses/boss moves that cant be taunted (planar inhibitor or jump attack of the last boss of vet spindle), but its not normal if a dd gets aggro all the time, in different dungeons.

ParaNostram · October 2016

Alucardo wrote: »

This game has no room for people who want to play as archers

Congratulations, you are what's wrong with this game.

threefarms · October 2016

L2PP
Yes, the second P is derogatory.

itsfatbass · October 2016

Are you parsing 22k+ single target? If you're not then you're sub-par dps. Many dungeons have a pretty strict DPS requirement and will not be beatable if the group is not performing dps to that level.

Solid_Metal · October 2016

AFAIK 22k DPS for vet BC2 is enough, this not much of L2P issue just grouping with wrong people....i guess