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  • QuebraRegra
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    I cannot stand this update. The game is super overcrowded and people are literally dueling everywhere you go. The lag is very intense and it's time to stop. I'm going to really miss the peace and tranquility of questing in the cp areas. Now that does not even exist anymore. In each update this game has got worse and worse and now it's so terrible.

    Now another thing that I'm pretty pissed off about is the fact that they added all of these extremely cancerous builds into the game. Deucie the killa which was one of the best players in this game quit the game because of all these new proc sets that they added. That's really pathetic. If you want to check him out he's out youtube Deuicie the killa.

    Dueling should have been implemented in an ARENA, with customization matches, and wagering. This would have taken it out of the general population, and made for a far better system.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Ok 2 questions:

    1. Who are Angry Joe and Deucie the Killa?
    2. Why in the hell would I care whay they think?


    I'm having fun and the the world feels active again.

    No one knows who Deucie is.

    Angry Joe, however, is a WOW player with a popular Internet opinion show that absolutely TRASHED ESO 3 years ago with a beta review that went viral with, as of today, more than 1.5 million views. His nonsense, which he later recanted in less popular videos, probably caused more harm to this game's reputation than any other single event. I just Googled a few One Tamriel reviews and some of them were still referencing it.
  • Istoppucks
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    gard wrote: »
    You keep forgetting to put "In my opinion" into your posts, OP.

    Because that's all they are. None of what you have posted is based in any kind of "facts".

    And frankly, who cares what Angry Joe thinks? I rather like the 1T update. It's really brought the game back to life for me.

    And that's MY opinion.

    Why on earth would OP need to explicitly state that what he is writing is his opinion?

    Whose opinion would you expect it to be? Of course it's his opinion. *boggle*

    It amazing you missed the parts where he said or made the suggestions that "everyone" agrees with him. He isn't speaking from an opinion view point he is trying to speak for "everyone" there is a BIG difference.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I only agree with dueling being a big problem. I don't PvP so any build for that....no comment.
    Dueling has to be moved out of the anything goes .....
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  • alexkdd99
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    So maybe start playing a single player game like Skyrim, cause you know, in MMOs there are also other players out there... and to be honest, the more, the better.

    That's an insult. I have played so many other mmos and pretty much all of them has a way better management on their games. I wonder what Angry Joe would say if he reviewed the game 2 years later...

    It's not just me that thinks it is a bad idea but literally everyone is complaining in the text chat everywhere I go about how terrible this update is. I'm probably just the first to make a post about it.

    You are exaggerating, I have not seen hardly anyone in game complaining. Way more people like it than dislike it.

    Just because you don't like it does not mean everyone doesn't as you claim. Congratulations some guy you watch on YouTube quit as well, is that suppose to mean something?

    As others have said this is a mmo, I don't play mmos for peace and tranquility. If you like other games so much more what is stopping you from playing them?

    Oh and dueling has yet to interfere with any thing I do in the game, so can we stop using that as an excuse to try and get rid of dueling. Btw I don't duel, I just don't see the point in trying to suck the fun out of the game for others.
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    Proc sets are bad, one tamriel is pretty great.
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  • DaniAngione
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    "undo one tamriel" lol

    Gotta love me some conservatives.
  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    mnwild1998 wrote: »
    gard wrote: »
    You keep forgetting to put "In my opinion" into your posts, OP.

    Because that's all they are. None of what you have posted is based in any kind of "facts".

    And frankly, who cares what Angry Joe thinks? I rather like the 1T update. It's really brought the game back to life for me.

    And that's MY opinion.

    Why on earth would OP need to explicitly state that what he is writing is his opinion?

    Whose opinion would you expect it to be? Of course it's his opinion. *boggle*

    It amazing you missed the parts where he said or made the suggestions that "everyone" agrees with him. He isn't speaking from an opinion view point he is trying to speak for "everyone" there is a BIG difference.
    This.

    When the OP represented his opinion as fact by referencing "everyone", it legitimizes the post. He's misrepresenting his opinion as empirical fact, when it is not.

    Also trying to reference a player that no one has heard of, and then an Angry Joe video from over three (3) years ago...

    OP is getting called out on an uninformed OP ED post. Sorry (I'm not really sorry...) if that "boggles" your mind.


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  • quadraxis666
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    Suck it up for 3 months. Merging all alliances into a single instance was probably necessary to free up space for the who knows how many instances of player houses coming in the next update, and once that feature arrives the overcrowding is likely to be hugely reduced.
  • Smasherx74
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    So maybe start playing a single player game like Skyrim, cause you know, in MMOs there are also other players out there... and to be honest, the more, the better.

    In skyrim you have to deal with nazeems everywhere with their smug remarks.

    Oblivion you have to deal with guards harassing you

    Morrowind you have to deal with flying bat things everywhere.

    Master Debater
  • Sheezabeast
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Only undo One Tamriel if we're rolling back to 1.5 :(

    1.5 WITH One Tamriel please (not the sets, just the no alliance restriction)

    Agree! And am unsure how to handle agreeing with a DC hehehe

    Hey, it's One Tamriel. We're no longer restricted by alliance, so don't feel bad about agreeing with a DC =D

    Here's to the start of a friendly alliance ;D May One Tamriel unite us all <3

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  • IrishGirlGamer
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    Well, OP, you know that's not going to happen, right?

    I love this game. I've said it over dozen times before on this forum. It's awesome. And no one was a bigger fan of One Tamriel than I. I wanted this for a long time.

    But, as others have said, the issue is not with the general idea but with the implemented design. I have a fairly powerful computer and I get lag in almost every city I go to now. I have to believe Zenimax is aware of the lag and hopefully will do something about it. But here's the thing:

    What are they going to do?

    Despite my love for this game, I have to admit that what I'm seeing from Zenimax, more and more, is trying to solve problems and create content with the least amount of effort. It's almost as if they come up with an idea, and then don't think it through. I feel like almost every DLC they release is anti-climactic and every fix they create is the equivalent of a band-aid on a gunshot wound.

    This was excusable, in my opinion, in the beginning, back when ESO was released. Zenimax was new to MMOs and was just getting started. But we're over two years in here and they're are still releasing updates with the same kind of bugs and problems. Enter any city in the game, and I wonder why they haven't learned anything from their experiences in Cyrodiil.

    It really is time to have a serious discussion about the lag. But in the end, based on what has come before, what do you really feel like they are going to do?

    Case in point: consider the Witches Festival. I was actually looking forward to some interesting fun and a nice (albeit temporary) addition to the game. What did I get? Meh. Another "cake." That's it. A bunch of recipes, a motif, and a ten minute quest and back to the same old grind. There was almost no design ingenuity in this AT ALL. Granted, it was free but c'mon. Do something fun!

    In over two years, this is what I've come to expect from Zenimax. I hope it changes in the future. Really. I mean, maybe it's time for a new game director. Because right now, despite the many positive changes brought about by One Tamriel, the game still feels like it's just a shell for the Crown Store.

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  • DHale
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    In a couple of months lots of places will be quiet again. I love the changes though. Well most of them.
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  • Doctordarkspawn
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    Quite frankly? After a few weeks of it I'm allready hating it in terms of dungeons and endgame PVE.

    Please, god, reroll this update, or at least the scailing. It'll never happen, I know it'll never happen, but still. FIX THE SCALING.
    Edited by Doctordarkspawn on October 19, 2016 5:01PM
  • summitxho
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    First impressions of 1T is both good and bad for me personally

    -I see many more people in the game, more than I have ever seen before, on the plus side it makes the environment seem more lively, on the negative side when I went to farm in Craglorn it was literally stripped bare, making it much harder to get the materials I need for my crafting writs and get nirncrux for my researching, lately the writs have been quite enjoyable for me to do, so bit of a let down there as I don't have a ton of time to play and will need to spend more time collecting mats for the same result. I also experienced my first negative player experiences in the year I have had the game taking a chest while fighting a mob and again taking some mats while I was fighting a mob, no big deal, more players in the game mean more of those types of players, I can live with it, part of the game.

    -Dueling, wow there was a lot! I expect it to die down, but when I was using the wayshrine from Mournhold, the maps would not seem to load, took 2-3 minutes of just sitting there, never had that problem before, does it have to do with all the dueling? I dunno, but if it does then perhaps it can be tweaked. Perhaps dueling in cities should not be outlawed outright, but maybe the stakes should be raised for players who choose to do it in cities? Add another dimension? Suggestions of guards getting involved or a bounty I would be on board with, maybe the player there of a different alliance could have even higher costs, risk being ganged up on, would also fit in with the immersion as I think its more realistic. Make dueling in cities have a cost to the player, currently I think it simply encourages many of the "hey look at me" type player and could be implemented better, not saying all people dueling in cities are those types, just encourages those that are, and do we really need to encourage that?

    -I like the new difficulty, not having the CP rank above the enemy is pretty cool, but again I think some tweaks would make it better, maybe a small variance in the same types enemies, just like in real life, not all animals are the same in strength, cunning, endurance etc. I think it would be more exciting going into a fight having an idea of what to expect, but not entirely, you may be able to barely take out one mob of welwas for instance, but the next one might be a bit stronger, just a touch of an unknown experience. I also think the higher zones should still have a difficulty scale, just not nearly as much as before, a level 1 should still stand a chance against enemies in the later zones, but I think it should be a bit harder for them, so there is still a sense of progression and danger when entering into zones your character is not ready for

    -Bugs, console users are experiencing the same bugs as PC users had to deal with weeks ago, I would have liked to see ZOS fix the known bugs in the weeks later it came to console, just does not make sense to me why it was left, what is the point in making PC users the guiney pig if the bugs that come up are not repaired?

    Overall I think its a good step forward, I like the direction they are going, but it needs some work still.
    Edited by summitxho on October 19, 2016 5:39PM
  • apostate9
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    I cannot stand this update. The game is super overcrowded and people are literally dueling everywhere you go. The lag is very intense and it's time to stop. I'm going to really miss the peace and tranquility of questing in the cp areas. Now that does not even exist anymore. In each update this game has got worse and worse and now it's so terrible.

    Now another thing that I'm pretty pissed off about is the fact that they added all of these extremely cancerous builds into the game. Deucie the killa which was one of the best players in this game quit the game because of all these new proc sets that they added. That's really pathetic. If you want to check him out he's out youtube Deuicie the killa.

    Consider switching to Skyrim. I played it for weeks and weeks once, and never saw another player having fun.Tranquility restored.

  • SirAndy
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    Na, i still like it ...
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  • Mephilis78
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    No, just no. Wanna play other MMOs be my guest, this isn't other MMOs. :p
    Edited by Mephilis78 on October 19, 2016 5:44PM
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  • DMuehlhausen
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    Tyrion87 wrote: »
    So maybe start playing a single player game like Skyrim, cause you know, in MMOs there are also other players out there... and to be honest, the more, the better.

    Sure, but he does have a point. When I load into a busy area now it takes minutes before my UI fully loads. They need to divide the players out a little more or at least kill dueling in towns.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Day 1 release of course ppl are dueling. Everyone is since its new. Lighten up. For all we know cities will be restricted and we will get a legit justice system... i may have went to far.
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  • SolarCat02
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    I am not a fan of the large quantity of dueling happening in cities right now. I also understand that it's a new toy. Just like we don't see piles of the same dead NPC on the streets anymore because the Blade of Woe lost its novelty, dueling will fade too.

    In the meantime, I intend to do random normal dungeons to speed level my tank while the Halloween xp is still going on, and enjoy doing all the old veteran dungeons in their normal mode. This is going to make things so much easier to teach people mechanics for everything. I wasn't sold on this change, but they implemented it well, so I love it now.

    The rest, I will wait for things to settle down. I am not going anywhere near Grahtwoot or Rawl'ka for a while, either! :s It just seems safer, to keeping my connection.

    Only major issue I have so far is I couldn't join group chat while in a group yesterday, the group chat wasn't even listed. I am hoping that was a hiccup from the server load; if it happens again tomorrow when I can play again I will be putting in a ticket.
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  • Acrolas
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    It's statistically impossible not to lose at least a few people over any change ever made.

    That's it. No debate. Just inevitability.
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  • STEVIL
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    This post is actually just a sneaky promotion for OP's youtube channel.

    If that guy is one of the best players in the game, why has almost no-one heard about him?

    Unfortunately, the adage about any press good press is wrong. I so disagree with the Op no chance of ever checking out the source.

    A thread about "hey 1t proc sets and what this means" would have gotten me to go look... but not now.
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  • SilentBoomstick
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    Only undo One Tamriel if we're rolling back to 1.5 :(

    I agree with you 100%. I liked 1.5.
  • Rhyagell
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    In my opinion, the only downside to the patch is the lag that has come with it. I'm not entirely a fan of the changes, as I am a solo player almost entirely and just cannot be social as much as people want me to be, but I have to admit after playing the last two days (giving it a honest shot) it isn't as bad as I initially thought it was (again, not concerning the terrible lag).

    I was able to find a guild/group that didn't mind that I wasn't a social butterfly in chat. We just did our thing, earning skulls and leveling up. Also, I noticed the delves and whatnot where packed the first two days, but last night it seemed to get pretty quiet. I saw maybe four people in two hours. I think you should give it a longer try, OP. And maybe they will try to fix the lag issues, too.

    (I think it is really childish and stupid that so many people here cannot face any form of criticism for this game simply because it disagrees with them. You all are just as bad as people coming here to complain about the changes because they don't like them. Their voice matters just as much as yours in this game. Being a solo player in an MMO doesn't change that—no matter how much you ridicule them.)
    Edited by Rhyagell on October 19, 2016 6:46PM
  • SilentBoomstick
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    It's not just me that thinks it is a bad idea but literally everyone is complaining in the text chat everywhere I go about how terrible this update is. I'm probably just the first to make a post about it.[/quote]

    So first it's "Deucie" and then it's "angry joe"... who you going to cite next, Dr. Phil?[/quote]

    No. Only people relevant to ESO. I have no clue why you bring up Dr. Phil as an example of who I am going to talk about next.
  • SilentBoomstick
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    Who is Duecie?

    Questions that need answers.

    He was a legend on PS4. If you don't know who he is then you probably don't play on PS4 (I don't want to hear your pc master race bs.)

    If you don't know who let me work is then you don't play this game competitively. He is always emperor and you literally cannot compete with his level of skill.
  • purple-magicb16_ESO
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    It does get pretty bad at times. They may have to look at limiting it somehow. Though there's no way they'll "undo" 1T.
    Edited by purple-magicb16_ESO on October 19, 2016 6:48PM
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  • SilentBoomstick
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    mnwild1998 wrote: »
    You keep forgetting to put "In my opinion" into your posts, OP.

    Because that's all they are. None of what you have posted is based in any kind of "facts".

    And frankly, who cares what Angry Joe thinks? I rather like the 1T update. It's really brought the game back to life for me.

    And that's MY opinion.

    And that's an opinion I can get behind 100%. Don't you love these special snowflake posters who really think they speak for "everyone"?
    Agreed.

    And I don't think OP has every watched anything from "Angry Joe". Just his screen name name implies that his videos are going to be "angry" for no other reason than to be angry. It's how he gets the gullible people to click on his links, thus ensuring another fat YouTube paycheck.

    Angry Joe is a fraud.

    But I digress; since Op obviously is the designated representative for the whole community of players, I resent that I was not asked my opinion.

    [sarcasm]
    But apparently the 1T update is horrible, or at least that's what "everyone" is telling Mr. Trump OP. That's what they're saying. It's so horrible. The 1T update is living in hell. It's broken. But Mr. Trump OP can fix it. Believe him. He's the only one that can fix it. 1T is letting in the rapists, the criminals, the spammers and bots, but I assume some are good people. But he's gonna fix it. People have been saying it. They're stupid for making 1T, it's horrible.
    [/sarcasm]

    I watch his content all time time. If he does not do a review on something then I won't buy it. I didn't buy this game when it came out on PC because of his review. One of the points that he made was about allowing the alliance servers to be merged together. I don't think that he would think that is a good idea 2 years later because of how much lag we are facing in this update.

    "Every watched Angry Joe"? What? Is your grammar up to par?
  • SilentBoomstick
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    mnwild1998 wrote: »
    You keep forgetting to put "In my opinion" into your posts, OP.

    Because that's all they are. None of what you have posted is based in any kind of "facts".

    And frankly, who cares what Angry Joe thinks? I rather like the 1T update. It's really brought the game back to life for me.

    And that's MY opinion.

    And that's an opinion I can get behind 100%. Don't you love these special snowflake posters who really think they speak for "everyone"?

    I don't speak for everyone. I speak for myself and if you don't like it then that's tough.
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