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A thought on a solution to Proc Based Builds

  • covenant_merchant
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    You forget to mention to nerf Galerion's revenge. Magicka's got proc sets too!

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    Who needs viper when you can have this great stuff :)
  • Valencer
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    Don't forget Destructive Mage! Dat heavy attack combo that basically requires you to be on TS with a ranged buddy
  • CapuchinSeven
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    kasa-obake wrote: »
    You forget to mention to nerf Galerion's revenge. Magicka's got proc sets too!

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    Who needs viper when you can have this great stuff :)

    ...I don't see how that's worse than Viper...
  • RadioheadSh0t
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    Procs should not be able to crit, that's the first change that needs to be made. You have builds stacking crit damage to get very high Viper procs, and that's just ridiculous.
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  • MLRPZ
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    Global cooldown on procs. You can wear any combination of retardness proc set you want, you can have one proc every 10 seconds.

    that would reduce the upcoming tremor / widowmaker / viper that Sypher is nicely introducing
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  • Joy_Division
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    kasa-obake wrote: »
    You forget to mention to nerf Galerion's revenge. Magicka's got proc sets too!

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    Who needs viper when you can have this great stuff :)

    ...I don't see how that's worse than Viper...

    Open your eyes or make sarcastic intent clearer.

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    As for procs, I hate the porc meta too, but can we at least try to suggest something the Wrobel might be keen on doing. A 10 second cooldown or not allowing them to crit is way too radical of a change. He isn't going to go through every armor set and individually change them (even though he should).

    The cooldown idea is the easiest band-aid fix and ideally it is easy enough that we can get sooner rather than later. I don't think a cooldown is needed in PVE, should just add it to the Battlespirit. I think 2 second global cooldown on instant damage procs is enough time for most players to use their near infinite resource builds and high healing we have access to surive the next proc.

    I also think ZoS needs to do a better job at making 5 piece utility sets more attractive options. The "jailbreaker" set's 5 piece bonus is minor expedition. There is no way that can compete with viper
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • Aiphaton
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  • Derra
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    Easiest solution is a double gcd for proccs.
    One cooldown is the sets own. They have to add a second cooldown that does not allow other sets to procc for atleast 4s when one procc set fired (eliminating multiproc setups entirely).

    Edit: Thinking about it a little longer - this should obviously only be a restriction only for proccs with an offensive (dmging) component as otherwise defensive sets like barkskin, hist and other "weak" defensive proccs would dramatically decrease in value cutting down possible build variety.
    Edited by Derra on October 17, 2016 10:10AM
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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    The sad fact is that the PvE community doesn't care about procs, therefore ZOS doesn't care about procs.
    Aldonius Direnni - Vet Altmer Sorc (AD)
    Tyrus Telvanni - Vet Dunmer DK (AD)
    Al Donius Bundy - Vet Imperial NB (AD)
    Aldonius Brutus - Vet Orc DK (DC)
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Just make all proc sets share the same cooldown
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  • Kram8ion
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    #procced lives matter
    But please one at a time
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  • Anazasi
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    I'm thinking more impen please.......
  • Sandman929
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    kasa-obake wrote: »
    You forget to mention to nerf Galerion's revenge. Magicka's got proc sets too!

    Screenshot_3.png

    Who needs viper when you can have this great stuff :)

    That's just OP right there...those poor stamina builds have to face this? All a magicka player has to do is light attack them 28 times to get this sweet, sweet damage (because they passively dodge 22 of those attempts).
  • okrkas
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    Less QQ more PEW PEW
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