dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Mic1007 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

magicka damage is still right now more powerfull and does more damage then stamina damage and skills.

Living in early 2015, are we?

nothing has changed, magicka is still overpowered, theres a thread here on the forums talking about, no, excuse me, [Bragging] about 5700 spell damage. i see sorcerers and dragonights and templars killing people with thier magicka in a matter of a few seconds!
pvp is all about magicka and fire damage magicka based, the only thing that has changed since 2015 is that now stamina does more damage then we did back then, we are still behind when it comes to balance compared to magicka.
this is not a troll post nor a joke. i am serious.
and by the way. we are allowed to have our own opinions and judgements and post them here on this forum as long as it is not insulting others. and i have followed that rule.

SirAndy wrote: »

I don't remember any of you complaining when Stamblades were completely broken and everyone had to wear a skirt and wave a wooden stick to be competitive in Cyrodiil.

And yes, i was most likely the only Stamblade in PvP back then.

Y'all seemed perfectly fine with *that* meta.

Mic1007 wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

heres another example of overpowered magicka done by a sorcerer this time, and as we see he soloed by himself [solo] completed white gold tower. this cannot be achieved by a nightblade stamina class.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/297583/vet-white-gold-tower-has-been-soloed#latest
stamina is below others in damage. i have now given 3 proofs of evidence.
its not a trolling, its not a lie it is a fact that magicka is more powerfull and does more damage then the stamina abilities. in both pvp and pve.
some people saying on this thread that it is funny my comments, or that i am trolling, i show evidence and i show proof that it is the truth, not a joke and not trolling. just look at the evidence.

One player is able to solo this dungeon after trying for SUPER long to finish it, and you take that as proof? One case, and boom, magicka players are more powerful?

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

here is yet another example of magicka being overpowered. lets take a look ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3jb4ZadI4A

He didn't attack the Templar's Stamina enough. One stun and immobilize won't do much. Using a two-hander with no knockback? It's there for a reason.

Faulgor wrote: »

I usually love proc effects, but it's clear there is a problem with the current implementation. The monster sets are more or less okay because you can only use 1 set, but the 5 piece sets are a problem because with 1T you can possibly use two, and they vary wildly in their effectiveness.

Personally, I think Viper and Widowmaker deserve to be toned down. They are just to reliable.
For comparison:

Viper's Sting
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Melee Attack, you deal an additional 6400 Poison damage. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

Widowmaker
(5 items) When your alchemical poison fires, deal 7740 Poison Damage to all enemies within 5 meters of you.

Shadow of the Red Mountain
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Weapon ability, you have a 10% chance to deal an additional 8400 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds.

Way of Fire
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Weapon ability, you have a 20% chance to deal an additional 4000 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 2 seconds.

Ashen Grip
(5 items) When you deal diret melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

All (or most) other proc sets merely have a chance to trigger, whereas Viper and Widowmaker are 100% and often of higher magnitude. This allows planning for unmatched and reliable burst damage. I think both sets should be brought in line with other proc sets, i.e., reduce the chance for the proc effect.

MonkeyD wrote: »

Man this meta really sucks... plain and simple

If armor does all your work what is the reason to play at all?

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Tons of people complained that ESO failed to live up to Elder Scrolls franchise. Zenimax has been systematically patching in the old school stuff, whether in response to the outcry or as part of a long term plan. For example, people cried many a river about the lack of Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild. Both are now in the game.

Uno Tamriele addresses early complaints about the lack of flexibility and diversity to "play how you want." This patch addresses this a bit by removing some artificial boundaries and flooding the market with so many sets that the meta will take some time to settle. In the process, they made certain crown store items more desirable... They weaved this together in a way that the usual folks who complain about the "greedy corporate culture" have missed it completely.

To say Wrobel (or whoever is really steering the ship) doesn't know what they are doing does not compute. If you read between the lines of what they officially say, the decision was made to invest all their resources in bringing ESO back into the franchise fold as fast as possible, dumb it down to WoW "fun" level and then address balance issues afterwards.

Complain that they keep punching us PvPers in the gut patch after patch if you want. But to say they don't know what they are doing or what the impact will likely be is not rational. They simply don't care because their forecasts indicate that doing what they are doing will net them more players and cash in the long run, even if it alienates PvPers who have trouble adjusting to constant shifts in the meta (or simply don't want to have to keep adjusting).

As to the proc issue, this patch came with a few sets that can make you almost invulnerable along with a few skills. The mistake they made is having it on a % proc chance when hit. What they need to do is add sets that proc defenses as frequently as the offensive procs go off and are applied immediately (like healing is applied against damage before determining whether someone is dead). For example, if the pirate two piece was immediately applied against the tremor/viper combo, things would be a lot more interesting.