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ZOS, are u insane?

Lokov
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Hi ZOS, maybe u can stop a bit to up stamina builds? ))
The damage from damage sets is insane! Look here. If i gear up viper + widowmaker + tremorscale = almost oneshot for light and medium armor players. If it's on stamblade - it's oneshot after incap strike + ransack :dizzy:
Dont's you think it is to much?

It's not normal, all this damage instant :D
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Edited by Lokov on October 14, 2016 12:26PM
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  • strikeback1247
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    It will be enough when I can just look at a fully shieldstacked magsorc and he just drops dead instantly.


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  • Lokov
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    Yea, i think it's time to remove all magicka skills from game and leave it olny for templars for healing abilitys :dizzy:
    Anyway all will stop to play as magicka builds with such updates =\
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  • Knootewoot
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    Let the stambuilds have their fun. I already gave up on PvP for most of the time. I still laugh when I do bosses and dungeons I see stamblades perform their trick and then resurrect as the boss killed them.

    Someday a nerf or balance change will come and we will be engulfed with salty tears.

    Edit: Not all stamblades. The uberplayers will of course be uberplayers. I am talking about the hundreds of build copycats
    Edited by Knootewoot on October 14, 2016 12:25PM
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  • Lava_Croft
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    @Wrobel has not even the faintest clue about the effects of introducing such a perverse meta. Not just on the gameplay, but also on how players feel. It's simply bad design all around and an example that should be used in schools to show upcoming game designers how not to do things.
  • Alucardo
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    @Wrobel has not even the faintest clue about the effects of introducing such a perverse meta. Not just on the gameplay, but also on how players feel. It's simply bad design all around and an example that should be used in schools to show upcoming game designers how not to do things.

    When they make a bad design choice in school they can say things like "You just completely wrobeled", "Think what Wrobel would do, then do the exact opposite".
    I mean no offence @Wrobel, but like, please stop crapping on the game.
  • dsalter
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    @Wrobel has not even the faintest clue about the effects of introducing such a perverse meta. Not just on the gameplay, but also on how players feel. It's simply bad design all around and an example that should be used in schools to show upcoming game designers how not to do things.

    When they make a bad design choice in school they can say things like "You just completely wrobeled", "Think what Wrobel would do, then do the exact opposite".
    I mean no offence @Wrobel, but like, please stop crapping on the game.

    in all honesty if they just make it so only one damage set can proc in a 2second bracket you'll see less of this crap.
    same goes for buff type sets as well, if they have an internal global 2sec cd then the stack multiple proc sets cant happen without handicapping yourself.
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  • Junipus
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    As much as he fails, I'm glad he's ignoring threads like these.

    With other threads complaining of heavy armour templars spamming jesus beam as the cancer of the game and a new heavy armour templar meta arriving with the new sets and new magicka heavy changes coming in the next few updates, all these threads serve to do is show ZOS how whiny their customer base is and where to actually focus their attention in development.
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  • P3ZZL3
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    Are we just going to ignore the "screen capturing and cropping" capabilities of OP?
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  • Alucardo
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    P3ZZL3 wrote: »
    Are we just going to ignore the "screen capturing and cropping" capabilities of OP?

    I'm more interested in how they are taking so much damage. 6.5k ransacks and 7.5k viper procs aren't exactly normal in my experience.
  • Isellskooma
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    Lmfao 24k damage of one button. #Bringbackskill
  • Qbiken
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    P3ZZL3 wrote: »
    Are we just going to ignore the "screen capturing and cropping" capabilities of OP?

    This is from SypherPK´s latest video right?? The screenshoot?
  • Tryxus
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    Robes of Anti-Procs

    2pc bonus: Adds Max Magicka
    3pc bonus: Adds Spell Damage
    4pc bonus: Adds Magicka Regen
    5pc bonus: Adds Spell Damage + Become immune to the effects of proc sets

    Coming soon, from ZOS
    Edited by Tryxus on October 14, 2016 2:58PM
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  • Gilvoth
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    magicka damage is still right now more powerfull and does more damage then stamina damage and skills.
  • NobleNerd
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    P3ZZL3 wrote: »
    Are we just going to ignore the "screen capturing and cropping" capabilities of OP?

    This is from SypherPK´s latest video right?? The screenshoot?

    LOL Sypherpk - I think he is the only streamer left with decent numbers watching this game.

    The more I keep seeing posts like this and the obvious lack of control on cheaters/hacks in the game the less I am tempted to even update and play it again.
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  • old_mufasa
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    magicka damage is still right now more powerfull and does more damage then stamina damage and skills.

    ummm... what...
  • psychotic13
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    magicka damage is still right now more powerfull and does more damage then stamina damage and skills.

    I can't wait to hear this, elaborate?
  • Minalan
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Robes of Anti-Procs

    2pc bonus: Adds Max Magicka
    3pc bonus: Adds Spell Damage
    4pc bonus: Adds Magicka Regen
    5pc bonus: Adds Spell Damage + Become immune to the effects of proc sets

    Coming soon, from ZOS

    And you'all be able to find it in the gambling lock boxes. You only need to spend $800 to get all of the epic pieces...

    On a more serious note, what do we expect from a bunch of "bruh" coders trying to make the game "feel awesome and stuff".
  • SHADOW2KK
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    Happy sighs, the stamina master race:P
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    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

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    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
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  • Ron_Burgundy_79
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Robes of Anti-Procs

    2pc bonus: Adds Max Magicka
    3pc bonus: Adds Spell Damage
    4pc bonus: Adds Magicka Regen
    5pc bonus: Adds Spell Damage + Become immune to the effects of proc sets

    Coming soon, from ZOS

    I've been talking about this with @texassob

    I hope they make it reflect the proc damage so all the proc/stam baddies can feel my pain. B)
  • Minalan
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    ZOS is aware of the problem. Let's see what they do about it..
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    @Alucardo those have to be crits. At 3k weapon dmg and 20k stam they read (tooltip) approx 5.5k, at 40k stam and 4k dmg it should only read 6.5k (realistically) to 7k max.

    After battle spirit etc there is no way that the tooltip reads 14k+ on ransack
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  • Universe
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    I already faced players who used OP stamina builds in Cyrodiil's pvp or dueling.
    If the player knows what he is doing, I'm out of luck.
    It is even worse when facing very good players who decided to use those sets.

    @Wrobel or whoever is in charge of pvp combat balance - Please make the stamina builds more balanced so magicka builds will have a chance in either open world pvp or dueling.
    Edited by Universe on October 14, 2016 5:31PM
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  • Thelon
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    magicka damage is still right now more powerfull and does more damage then stamina damage and skills.

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  • Doctordarkspawn
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    magicka damage is still right now more powerfull and does more damage then stamina damage and skills.

    When making a claim like that, it's usually a good idea to back that sort of thing up with. Oh. I dont know.

    Evidence?

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    Edited by Doctordarkspawn on October 14, 2016 5:44PM
  • nimander99
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    I'm pretty sure the business entity commonly referenced as ZoS on these forums cant be 'insane' since ZoS doesn't have a physical brain to necessitate the alteration of a abnormal mindset, hence, insanity... Just sayin ;)
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    magicka damage is still right now more powerfull and does more damage then stamina damage and skills.

    My stamclasses disagree utterly:P
    Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

    Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
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    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
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  • SanTii.92
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    dunneriper is pretty op really. Not so much for the damge proc itself but cause how often it does and the 8 seconds 70% snare is just too damn much on mag chars.
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  • Samuel_Bantien
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    Minalan wrote: »
    ZOS is aware of the problem. Let's see what they do about it..

    They are NOT aware of the problem! If they were they would not have released more proc sets, they would have given the old proc sets different effects that deal less meaningful damage or given it utility. This has already been a problem for several months since Viper was updated to cp160.

    Moreso, you say they are aware of this issue? They should've been aware about magicka DKs in 1.6 and the past few years they have been complaining and constantly eviscerated til they became a small fraction of the PvP population. Let's also say they were aware of the nirnnhoned bug when they released 1.6 (multiplying spell resistance to the point that you could have 52k spell resistance and still take 50% damage reduction from spells AFTER resistances - this bug lasted atleast 7 months (I left the game at the 7 month period). To tell you the truth, they will not do anything as ZoS is exclusive to healers in PvP/PvE and Stamina meta builds.

    Next update is nothing to look forward too either. ZoS cries "buff!" to some classes with ZERO information given to the community for feedback. If they are aware of the issue they would ask for feedback on how to balance it, but they will not as everyone in the company has sealed lips for some odd reason. Here's another thing, why isn't class balancing and itemization balancing being implemented INCREMENTALLY instead of an all-in-one cluster(gaggle) every 3 months (and that's just hoping it comes every 3 months).

    If I was a Dev I would be asking for feedback every patch and update, make it weekly for constant feedback. Communicate with the players and tell them your ideas, see if they like it and ask for feedback - what should be changed, how about this scenario, how would it affect this class and build versus this mob or player. As I am not a developer, You will not get this kind of treatment unless they hire someone (me :wink:) that is passionate enough to take the game in the right direction and actually knows what the heck is going on. Don't get your hopes up 'ol chap until you (or all of us) know what they are going to do about this situation and are willing to take the feedback.
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    I want a monster set that makes all procced sets useless to me, ive said it many times. Either that or make global cooldown on proccs 4-5s.


    Fewk the Meta:

    One Piece: Critical resistance 300
    Two Piece: You take no dmg from sets that procc dmg on you (like viper, velidreth etc) and gain 10 ultimate each time you are hit by proccs.

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  • SirAndy
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    I don't remember any of you complaining when Stamblades were completely broken and everyone had to wear a skirt and wave a wooden stick to be competitive in Cyrodiil.

    And yes, i was most likely the only Stamblade in PvP back then.

    Y'all seemed perfectly fine with *that* meta.
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