Embrace the Meta

FENGRUSH · October 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1AgzidI4rU

PrinceFabious · October 2016

WTB non-meta streamer! Lol jk, very strong build

Scamandros · October 2016

You said kodi was running something similar. When the two of you duel does it come down to a matter of dmg avoidance via positioning and/or proc luck, or is the heavy armor w ransack enough mitigation to tank the worst of the damage?

I'm interested to know whether heavy armor + proc set builds can still handle facing themselves, or if we're pushing deeper into a mess of insta-deaths

Ghostbane · October 2016

Scamandros wrote: »

You said kodi was running something similar. When the two of you duel does it come down to a matter of dmg avoidance via positioning and/or proc luck, or is the heavy armor w ransack enough mitigation to tank the worst of the damage?

Whoever prays harder to the Lady of Latency.

OdinForge · October 2016

Stamina damage focused PvP builds using tank and proc sets.

@Wrobel what have you done to this game.

rfennell_ESO · October 2016

The unfortunate reality is those that really don't want to "embrace the meta" which is a crappy cancerous play style will all have that one day... that one day where they log on for the last time.

FENGRUSH · October 2016

Scamandros wrote: »

You said kodi was running something similar. When the two of you duel does it come down to a matter of dmg avoidance via positioning and/or proc luck, or is the heavy armor w ransack enough mitigation to tank the worst of the damage?

I'm interested to know whether heavy armor + proc set builds can still handle facing themselves, or if we're pushing deeper into a mess of insta-deaths

Usually comes down to an implosion proc after you swing all of your burst.

PrinceFabious · October 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Scamandros wrote: »

You said kodi was running something similar. When the two of you duel does it come down to a matter of dmg avoidance via positioning and/or proc luck, or is the heavy armor w ransack enough mitigation to tank the worst of the damage?

I'm interested to know whether heavy armor + proc set builds can still handle facing themselves, or if we're pushing deeper into a mess of insta-deaths

Usually comes down to an implosion proc after you swing all of your burst.

Or whoever has stronger poisons and more vitality pots hahaha

FENGRUSH · October 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Scamandros wrote: »

You said kodi was running something similar. When the two of you duel does it come down to a matter of dmg avoidance via positioning and/or proc luck, or is the heavy armor w ransack enough mitigation to tank the worst of the damage?

I'm interested to know whether heavy armor + proc set builds can still handle facing themselves, or if we're pushing deeper into a mess of insta-deaths

Usually comes down to an implosion proc after you swing all of your burst.

Or whoever has stronger poisons and more vitality pots hahaha

Yes, you can duel for 10-15mins at a time and burn through them all.

Jazbay_Grape · October 2016

I have embraced it, but it doesn't embrace me back ... and I still suck.

Micah123 · October 2016

I can't wait for Wrobel to swing the balance hammer and have everything swing back to magicka...wait what am I saying.

Drummerx04 · October 2016

Well. Next time my raid leader says, "Oh he's just running s&b as a tank. Ignore him." I'm just going to remember this video as the "tank" one shots half our raid.

OdinForge · October 2016

Builds like this are so brutal to fight against in medium armor or light armor. The heavy armor proc damage meta is muddying the water and obstructing the way to true balance, especially between stamina and magicka. It's pretty obvious that as long as sets like this remain and continue to come out, you can just forget about good balance period.

Wrobel be like

Micah123 · October 2016

Show me a magica sorc build that is as survivable as this build and has similar proc burst damage.

Samuel_Bantien · October 2016

Pretty disappointed. I hope you don't lose your skill in this game relying on procs.

BurritoESO · October 2016

Yay for balance

HoloYoitsu · October 2016

Micah123 wrote: »

Show me a magica sorc build that is as survivable as this build and has similar proc burst damage.

Magicka sorc is just a myth to scare little children.

Sorc pets can't melt stamina heals.

OdinForge · October 2016

Micah123 wrote: »

Show me a magica sorc build that is as survivable as this build and has similar proc burst damage.

Ironically builds like this are easier to fight against with mag, than they are in say a medium armor stamina build. Especially the DW Maelstrom versions with DoT damage.

Micah123 · October 2016

OdinForge wrote: »

Micah123 wrote: »

Show me a magica sorc build that is as survivable as this build and has similar proc burst damage.

Ironically builds like this are easier to fight against with mag, than they are in say a medium armor stamina build. Especially the DW Maelstrom versions with DoT damage.

I need to L2P then. Hard to be on the offensive when you have to spam shields against all the burst right out of the gate. Mag sorc burst is extremely delayed compared to this type of play.

In regards to DOT's, correct me if I'm wrong but magicka sorc dot damage is all ground based aoe. Good luck keeping a stam build locked down in ground aoe.

I am messing with something along these lines but so far it's kind of a weird playstyle.

Magus · October 2016

I ran something similar without the black rose briefly with the viper and tremorscale proc on a stamDK briefly - didn't have the fancy sharpened 1h to run it with blackrose. You need to pray to RNGesus for them to both proc at the same time, for your target to not be in heavy armor, and your target to not be blocking. I didn't watch the whole video but looked like most of your targets weren't wearing impen and were low alliance ranks, and yes it does blow those players up. At least you aren't running rearming trap cancer.

edit: Nevermind, watched a little more and saw your overload bar.

FENGRUSH · October 2016

Magus wrote: »

edit: Nevermind, watched a little more and saw your overload bar.

LOL

OdinForge · October 2016

Micah123 wrote: »

OdinForge wrote: »

Micah123 wrote: »

Show me a magica sorc build that is as survivable as this build and has similar proc burst damage.

Ironically builds like this are easier to fight against with mag, than they are in say a medium armor stamina build. Especially the DW Maelstrom versions with DoT damage.

I need to L2P then. Hard to be on the offensive when you have to spam shields against all the burst right out of the gate. Mag sorc burst is extremely delayed compared to this type of play.

In regards to DOT's, correct me if I'm wrong but magicka sorc dot damage is all ground based aoe. Good luck keeping a stam build locked down in ground aoe.

I am messing with something along these lines but so far it's kind of a weird playstyle.

I don't really know about Sorc I don't play one, I refuse to level a new toon again. I know that magsorc needs more cost reduction than magnb, but you get native spell damage i think, idk. Lose fear and maim, but gain curse and mines and an extra shield.

I just know that fighting a stamina heavy armor build like this, or worse; versions of this where they use maelstrom dw with DoTs, is complete aids in medium armor. You can't out-dodge or heal the damage that's incoming, you just die.

But my magnb can rotate shields and damage, and returning magicka while keeping yourself covered with a ward works better than trying to heavy attack in medium armor while eating damage.

OdinForge · October 2016

.

Magus · October 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Magus wrote: »

edit: Nevermind, watched a little more and saw your overload bar.

LOL

Patient is terminal. Well you did show everyone who didn't figure it out on themselves how to be tryhards. Should be fun to see the copycats coming out the woodworks.

dantator · October 2016

@trinert is Divine Cross you killed in the video. You killed my brother! You cheesed him. haha jk hopefully you gave him a good bag. I'll make sure to forward him to this so his death can be justified and will be able to sleep tonight.

Joy_Division · October 2016

Nice build. Yes, Tremorscale is stupid OP: ridiculous quick proc, ridiculous AOE, ridiculous snare afterward. But please stam players, tell me more about how a 250 ultimate on a poor destro weapon is busted. I'm all ears..

By the way @FENGRUSH , I never want to hear you whine and complain about healing. Listen you yourself:

"When you have alight target, you can straight up kill him on a sword and board bar, no contest."

"You see this grin? That's going to be your face when you run this build ... I couldn't believe my eyes about the damage sometimes."

"It is *** up man."

sirston · October 2016

thanks for making a vampires life even more difficult telling everyone to run dawn breaker

FENGRUSH · October 2016

Joy_Division wrote: »

Nice build. Yes, Tremorscale is stupid OP: ridiculous quick proc, ridiculous AOE, ridiculous snare afterward. But please stam players, tell me more about how a 250 ultimate on a poor destro weapon is busted. I'm all ears..

By the way @FENGRUSH , I never want to hear you whine and complain about healing. Listen you yourself:

"When you have alight target, you can straight up kill him on a sword and board bar, no contest."

"You see this grin? That's going to be your face when you run this build ... I couldn't believe my eyes about the damage sometimes."

"It is *** up man."

Yea healing is totally fine you are right.

NedicWildling · October 2016

This needs to be edited.

FENGRUSH · October 2016

NedicWildling wrote: »

This needs to be edited.

I get that a lot - whole page needs to be redone LOL. It was pretty easy though.

The-Baconator · October 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

NedicWildling wrote: »

This needs to be edited.

I get that a lot - whole page needs to be redone LOL. It was pretty easy though.

So when is the Lord FENGRUSH re rolling magicka sorc?