Memory Leak Is Back

sirston · October 2016

The good old memory leak is back in the game. After playing for few hours swapping zones it seems that is doesn't flush out the previous zone's and depending on your system either your system tanks hard and last until you reset your computer; or it just plainly crash's and refresh's. First image is a before, During, and After ESO. Second image is the processes of current and after. I don't have a processes for before because I don't feel its necessary unless people really want me to. Also to add it's not windows 10 trying to use Superfetch which help's store ram based process's so it's faster and easier to launch applications or resume on them, because that service host process would be using the most Not malware-bytes.

Lava_Croft · October 2016

Maybe these memory problems are related to the fact that trying to close ESO with ALT+F4 doesn't work. The game seemingly closes but remains running in the background.

sirston · October 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Maybe these memory problems are related to the fact that trying to close ESO with ALT+F4 doesn't work. The game seemingly closes but remains running in the background.

Nope doing the correct esc to quit and let it time its self out

Lava_Croft · October 2016

sirston wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Maybe these memory problems are related to the fact that trying to close ESO with ALT+F4 doesn't work. The game seemingly closes but remains running in the background.

Nope doing the correct esc to quit and let it time its self out

I meant more as in both problems might be unrelated to each other directly, but they might both be related to ESO's shoddy memory management.

Wollust · October 2016

Experiencing the same in vMoL

sirston · October 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

sirston wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Maybe these memory problems are related to the fact that trying to close ESO with ALT+F4 doesn't work. The game seemingly closes but remains running in the background.

Nope doing the correct esc to quit and let it time its self out

I meant more as in both problems might be unrelated to each other directly, but they might both be related to ESO's shoddy memory management.

yeh when you click quit sometimes is just goes to a black screen while it still run's have force it off.

GreenSoup2HoT · October 2016

This has to happen on console. There should be no reason im crashing 1-3 times per hour.

sirston · October 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

This has to happen on console. There should be no reason im crashing 1-3 times per hour.

Make scene both consoles have 8gbs of ram

idk · October 2016

memory leak never went away for PC.

sirston · October 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

memory leak never went away for PC.

I agree but they claim sometimes in patch's they had fixed the issues assorted issue to them.

Stridig · October 2016

I can only play a couple hours at a time since the update. Game will crash and then continue crashing every time I attempt to log in. Takes a while before I can get back in again.

C0wrex · October 2016

Damn, I thought I was the only one with those weird memory bursts.... I was really getting worried that my PC is crap!

Then again.... this thing's an a fossil

Necrelios · October 2016

I've been unable to replicate this on my end. Have you tried disabling addons? Increasing your LUA memory limit? Posting in the bug forums with your system specs? Also, I only see one actual instance of eso for comparison with the memory the process itself is using. Not necessarily enough to go on.

misfitmanic · October 2016

I have encountered this many many times, sadly.
After a few hours of gameplay, my RAM usage is at 75% or higher.
What is worse, killing the ESO64.exe doesn't solve the issue. I have to fully restart my PC to get RAM usage back down.
As stated before, it's usually most noticeable after loading into numerous zones.

Necrelios · October 2016

misfitmanic wrote: »

I have encountered this many many times, sadly.
After a few hours of gameplay, my RAM usage is at 75% or higher.
What is worse, killing the ESO64.exe doesn't solve the issue. I have to fully restart my PC to get RAM usage back down.
As stated before, it's usually most noticeable after loading into numerous zones.

Killing a process releases any resources it has tied up, so you have something else going on. The scenario you are describing is not possible.

sirston · October 2016

Necrelios wrote: »

misfitmanic wrote: »

I have encountered this many many times, sadly.
After a few hours of gameplay, my RAM usage is at 75% or higher.
What is worse, killing the ESO64.exe doesn't solve the issue. I have to fully restart my PC to get RAM usage back down.
As stated before, it's usually most noticeable after loading into numerous zones.

Killing a process releases any resources it has tied up, so you have something else going on. The scenario you are describing is not possible.

Wrong, My charts running ESO up there prove other wise. Also I don't think you understand what a memory leak is.

In computer science, a memory leak is a type of resource leak that occurs when a computer program incorrectly manages memory allocations in such a way that memory which is no longer needed is not released.

Necrelios · October 2016

sirston wrote: »

Necrelios wrote: »

misfitmanic wrote: »

I have encountered this many many times, sadly.
After a few hours of gameplay, my RAM usage is at 75% or higher.
What is worse, killing the ESO64.exe doesn't solve the issue. I have to fully restart my PC to get RAM usage back down.
As stated before, it's usually most noticeable after loading into numerous zones.

Killing a process releases any resources it has tied up, so you have something else going on. The scenario you are describing is not possible.

Wrong, My charts running ESO up there prove other wise. Also I don't think you understand what a memory leak is.
In computer science, a memory leak is a type of resource leak that occurs when a computer program incorrectly manages memory allocations in such a way that memory which is no longer needed is not released.

What you just quoted was not in response to you, I was replying to what @misfitmanic stated.

SteveCampsOut · October 2016

I got nuthin....

Misa · October 2016

Haven't had this issue at all for quite long

Jeremy · October 2016

Stridig wrote: »

I can only play a couple hours at a time since the update. Game will crash and then continue crashing every time I attempt to log in. Takes a while before I can get back in again.

The game has been almost unplayable for me since update.

HP bars lag and don't change so I have no clue how much life enemies and other players have. I have yet to see the animations for Sun Fire and Dark flare. Apparently these two spells are now invisible. Slow down, lag (even when I set graphics to minimum). Glitches galore when I attempt to join a dungeon group...

Sometimes I wonder if I am on the same planet as these other players who are praising this update. I don't understand why it can be so smooth for so many - yet so awful for me.

Misa · October 2016

Jeremy wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

I can only play a couple hours at a time since the update. Game will crash and then continue crashing every time I attempt to log in. Takes a while before I can get back in again.

The game has been almost unplayable for me since update.

HP bars lag and don't change so I have no clue how much life enemies and other players have. I have yet to see the animations for Sun Fire and Dark flare. Apparently these two spells are now invisible. Slow down, lag (even when I set graphics to minimum). Glitches galore when I attempt to join a dungeon group...

Sometimes I wonder if I am on the same planet as these other players who are praising this update. I don't understand why it can be so smooth for so many - yet so awful for me.

did you try to reinstall? or make sure to run the game as admin?

Jeremy · October 2016

Misa wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

I can only play a couple hours at a time since the update. Game will crash and then continue crashing every time I attempt to log in. Takes a while before I can get back in again.

The game has been almost unplayable for me since update.

HP bars lag and don't change so I have no clue how much life enemies and other players have. I have yet to see the animations for Sun Fire and Dark flare. Apparently these two spells are now invisible. Slow down, lag (even when I set graphics to minimum). Glitches galore when I attempt to join a dungeon group...

Sometimes I wonder if I am on the same planet as these other players who are praising this update. I don't understand why it can be so smooth for so many - yet so awful for me.

did you try to reinstall? or make sure to run the game as admin?

I've tried reinstalling and repairing. I haven't tried running it as an administer yet though. When maintenance is over I'll give it a shot.

Also, my quest tracker no longer works either. So you can add that to my list of woes since the update as well.

Rune_Relic · October 2016

NOTE:

With the installation of the windows 10 anniversary edition automatically installed on many PCs ongoing.
The killer network service used for killer network cards has a serious memory leak.

The first thing you should do with network based memory leaks (if you have a killer network card) is stop/disable the killer service and see if the memory leak stops. This is a performance counter related issue.

I had this issue on the works server.
Transferring files over the network to high speed USB quickly led to freezing (running off virtual RAM)
When two virtual servers were running ...even with 16GB of RAM.
So...please check if you have a killer network card and have been recently updated to Win10 version 1607

Junipus · October 2016

Rune_Relic wrote: »

NOTE:

With the installation of the windows 10 anniversary edition automatically installed on many PCs ongoing.
The killer network service used for killer network cards has a serious memory leak.

The first thing you should do with network based memory leaks (if you have a killer network card) is stop/disable the killer service and see if the memory leak stops. This is a performance counter related issue.

I had this issue on the works server.
Transferring files over the network to high speed USB quickly led to freezing (running off virtual RAM)
When two virtual servers were running ...even with 16GB of RAM.
So...please check if you have a killer network card and have been recently updated to Win10 version 1607

If you have the killer network service active the first thing you should do is delete it from your computer and burn any trace of it off the earth.

Then go and download just the driver as a standalone from either your mobo manufacturer or your network card manufacturer and install it. That'll fix the issues resulting from owning Killer network software.

Kas · October 2016

If you run some application and it consumes more and more memory, this is either intended, or memory is leaking. It's very hard to tell from a user's perspective if the application has bad (or at least hungry) memory management or is leaking.

If you close an application - leaking or not - and there's still memory used by that app, it's the operating system's fault. Granted, it might be in combination with the app leaking memory. But ultimately it's your operating system's responsibility to prevent that from happening (and this works very reliably nowadays).

That said, operating systems may decide to use memory. e.g. if you have enough ram and read many files from disk, it will cache them in memory. unless this memory is needed by some application, it remains there for a lot of time and there is no downside of it. thus, it can be that eso-zone loading-screen data is cached by your OS because it was used a lot. Likewise, the OS may decide to cache more stuff (graphics or network related) or run other processes that analyse written data (e.g. to make it searchable).

Granted, I don't know how to read Window's charts and how it accounts for different types of memory usage. But this should remain a fact:

tl;dr: If the game is closed and more memory is used than before, it's the operating systems responsibility, not the game's.

Bryanonymous · October 2016

Back? It never left. I swear, yesterday after a couple hours, I was showing 45fps in Shornhelm, but it looked like I was getting less than 5, the skipping was so bad. Reboot... Now everything is fine again. This is not new, it was never fixed, and perhaps it has gotten worse.

Lava_Croft · October 2016

Looking at these memory problems I cannot stop thinking about ESO devs saying lying they didn't use the Hero engine...

gard · October 2016

Jeremy wrote: »

Misa wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

I can only play a couple hours at a time since the update. Game will crash and then continue crashing every time I attempt to log in. Takes a while before I can get back in again.

The game has been almost unplayable for me since update.

HP bars lag and don't change so I have no clue how much life enemies and other players have. I have yet to see the animations for Sun Fire and Dark flare. Apparently these two spells are now invisible. Slow down, lag (even when I set graphics to minimum). Glitches galore when I attempt to join a dungeon group...

Sometimes I wonder if I am on the same planet as these other players who are praising this update. I don't understand why it can be so smooth for so many - yet so awful for me.

did you try to reinstall? or make sure to run the game as admin?

I've tried reinstalling and repairing. I haven't tried running it as an administer yet though. When maintenance is over I'll give it a shot.

Also, my quest tracker no longer works either. So you can add that to my list of woes since the update as well.

Maybe try checking the tech support forum where there are fixes for some of these issues.

Bryanonymous · October 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Looking at these memory problems I cannot stop thinking about ESO devs saying lying they didn't use the Hero engine...

But they said they used hero engine. Only, they build it into an entirely new engine from that. Really off topic.

sirston · October 2016

Bryanonymous wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Looking at these memory problems I cannot stop thinking about ESO devs saying lying they didn't use the Hero engine...

But they said they used hero engine. Only, they build it into an entirely new engine from that. Really off topic.

yeh people don't like the hero engine that much...It has some issues and it seem others in the past were displeased with zenimax decision.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/102820/eso-using-hero-engine-and-havok-seriously-you-lied-to-us

lustdog · November 2016

same here, got lag, freeze, alt+f4 and eso still running at background

must be end proces tree then relog....