SOULSHINE SET DOES NOT WORK WITH JABS/PUNCTURING SWEEPS

John_1999 · October 2016

Avezack wrote: »

works on sweeps? some corfimation?

no

John_1999 · October 2016

Avezack wrote: »

works on sweeps? some corfimation?

no it does not

danno8 · October 2016

John_1999 wrote: »

Avezack wrote: »

works on sweeps? some corfimation?

no it does not

It does work for me.

Pretty much the same set up as you, wearing 4 heavy armour so as not to get the Wrath benefit at any point and just switching a healthy + cost reduction Soulshine ring with a Healthy + Magicka regen Willpower ring (I already have a ring necklace and sword with willpower so the extra willpower ring offers no benefit, and even if it did it would only help confirm Soulshine is broken which is not what I found, see below)

Without Soushine Sweep normal hit 2839, crit 4715
With Soulshine Sweep normal hit 3104, crit 5059.

Note that the tooltip barely budged but these are the actual damage numbers from the floating combat text. I ran around switching the two sets back and forth for about 5 minutes killing everything around me and the results had no variability.

hedna123b14_ESO · October 2016

danno8 wrote: »

John_1999 wrote: »

Avezack wrote: »

works on sweeps? some corfimation?

no it does not

It does work for me.

Pretty much the same set up as you, wearing 4 heavy armour so as not to get the Wrath benefit at any point and just switching a healthy + cost reduction Soulshine ring with a Healthy + Magicka regen Willpower ring (I already have a ring necklace and sword with willpower so the extra willpower ring offers no benefit, and even if it did it would only help confirm Soulshine is broken which is not what I found, see below)

Without Soushine Sweep normal hit 2839, crit 4715
With Soulshine Sweep normal hit 3104, crit 5059.

Note that the tooltip barely budged but these are the actual damage numbers from the floating combat text. I ran around switching the two sets back and forth for about 5 minutes killing everything around me and the results had no variability.

None of the people saying it doesnt work actually tested the damage. The set never changed your cgaracter sheet numbers, but the damage would show an increase when wearing this set. Thank you for confirming:)

jrgray93 · October 2016

I only needed two more pieces... It's a bug though for sure, so I'll just find them and bank them until it's fixed.

timidobserver · October 2016

Never trust ESO tooltips. Test actual damage done to an enemy.

danno8 · October 2016

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

John_1999 wrote: »

Avezack wrote: »

works on sweeps? some corfimation?

no it does not

It does work for me.

Pretty much the same set up as you, wearing 4 heavy armour so as not to get the Wrath benefit at any point and just switching a healthy + cost reduction Soulshine ring with a Healthy + Magicka regen Willpower ring (I already have a ring necklace and sword with willpower so the extra willpower ring offers no benefit, and even if it did it would only help confirm Soulshine is broken which is not what I found, see below)

Without Soushine Sweep normal hit 2839, crit 4715
With Soulshine Sweep normal hit 3104, crit 5059.

Note that the tooltip barely budged but these are the actual damage numbers from the floating combat text. I ran around switching the two sets back and forth for about 5 minutes killing everything around me and the results had no variability.

None of the people saying it doesnt work actually tested the damage. The set never changed your cgaracter sheet numbers, but the damage would show an increase when wearing this set. Thank you for confirming:)

Well the OP at post #22 did say he tested it on mobs and on other players and got different results than me, so something else must be at play if his numbers are to be believed. All I know is that it works for me.

KingMagaw · October 2016

Just what the game needed, a buff to Jesus beam lol

Dredlord · October 2016

LegacyDM wrote: »

Dredlord wrote: »

update, the OP is right! soulshine doesn't work with jabs.........................as expected.

I tested on live.

It does however work perfectly fine on sweeps, adds about 200 damage per poke in pve unbuffed.

What's the big confusion here? Puncturing jabs is a weapon based stamina skill. Why would people expect it to work on a stamina skill?! Of course it works on puncturing sweeps. That's a magic ability.

I think the OP was having a "chicken little" moment and thought the sky was falling.

It turns out he was using the stam morph on his magica build...

He is just having a hard time understanding the game and apparently its our fault.

Grumble_and_Grunt · October 2016

@Dredlord He wasn't using the stam version and specified that to avoid confusion and updated title. Most people refer to sweeps as jabs anyways he was probably just making a generalisation, regardless he corrected himself. Not really understanding your hostility and sarcasm towards OP in this thread lol. He is from EU and German writing on the forums here since it is more widely searched, remember that the forums are home to EU players too, english isn't everyones native language, not that this was the case, but you're just beating a dead horse here like a t*** when he already amended his errors in the thread long ago.

Dredlord · October 2016

Grumble_and_Grunt wrote: »

@Dredlord He wasn't using the stam version and specified that to avoid confusion and updated title. Most people refer to sweeps as jabs anyways he was probably just making a generalisation, regardless he corrected himself. Not really understanding your hostility and sarcasm towards OP in this thread lol. He is from EU and German writing on the forums here since it is more widely searched, remember that the forums are home to EU players too, english isn't everyones native language, not that this was the case, but you're just beating a dead horse here like a t*** when he already amended his errors in the thread long ago.

No hostility here, he obviously was using the wrong morph or he would have got the same results as the rest of us.

As for you, try to quell your hero complex, no one is in need of rescue here. We are just trying to curb all the misinformation on these forums.

Grumble_and_Grunt · October 2016

@Dredlord Lol not trying to be a hero, I know him in game. Would not have been using wrong morph, so if anything was incorrect it would have been something else.

As for you there are easier more respectful ways to deal with misinformation than insulting and belittling people.

Dredlord · October 2016

Grumble_and_Grunt wrote: »

@Dredlord Lol not trying to be a hero, I know him in game. Would not have been using wrong morph, so if anything was incorrect it would have been something else.

As for you there are easier more respectful ways to deal with misinformation than insulting and belittling people.

Weren't you chastising me for beating a dead horse? Move on dood I think your buddy's question has been answered...

donJay · October 2016

Pretty sure someone did the math in another thread. If you're using the jewelry, it is NOT worth using soul shine because of the healthy trait. Willpower + Torugs gives almost the same dmg to al your other abilities + more max magika

John_1999 · October 2016

donJay wrote: »

Pretty sure someone did the math in another thread. If you're using the jewelry, it is NOT worth using soul shine because of the healthy trait. Willpower + Torugs gives almost the same dmg to al your other abilities + more max magika

I am not using jewelry for my end game build, just for testing, my Idea was to replace kags for soulshine, but its not worth it.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · October 2016

John_1999 wrote: »

donJay wrote: »

Pretty sure someone did the math in another thread. If you're using the jewelry, it is NOT worth using soul shine because of the healthy trait. Willpower + Torugs gives almost the same dmg to al your other abilities + more max magika

I am not using jewelry for my end game build, just for testing, my Idea was to replace kags for soulshine, but its not worth it.

So does it work with sweeps? I still don't get the point of this thread. I couldn't care less about jabs, not using them on a magplar.

If it really adds X spell damage to most templar abilities, then that would be great. combine with cyrodiil's light for a very tanky build. Does it work or not.

Papa_Hunt · October 2016

Sorry folks if I digging up something already determined. But is Soulshine currently working with Sweeps (magicka based) or not? If not, has ZoS acknowledged this in some other thread I can't find? I'd hate to know I dumped all that time and cash into getting gear if it isn't working and there aren't any quick plans to fix.

frozywozy · October 2016

Papa_Hunt wrote: »

Sorry folks if I digging up something already determined. But is Soulshine currently working with Sweeps (magicka based) or not? If not, has ZoS acknowledged this in some other thread I can't find? I'd hate to know I dumped all that time and cash into getting gear if it isn't working and there aren't any quick plans to fix.

It is not working with sweeps. @Wrobel confirmed that they are working on a fix. I was hoping it would be fixed this patch but I guess we will have to wait at least another week. spent 650k gold and dozen of hours farming this to be ready asap but I guess it will fully function once everyone is done farming their own sets.

Papa_Hunt · October 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Papa_Hunt wrote: »

Sorry folks if I digging up something already determined. But is Soulshine currently working with Sweeps (magicka based) or not? If not, has ZoS acknowledged this in some other thread I can't find? I'd hate to know I dumped all that time and cash into getting gear if it isn't working and there aren't any quick plans to fix.

It is not working with sweeps. @Wrobel confirmed that they are working on a fix. I was hoping it would be fixed this patch but I guess we will have to wait at least another week. spent 650k gold and dozen of hours farming this to be ready asap but I guess it will fully function once everyone is done farming their own sets.

Thanks! Do you happen to have thread where @Wrobel mentioned this?

frozywozy · October 2016

@Papa_Hunt I actually don't. A friend told me about it.

@ZOS_GinaBruno - Could we get a confirmation that this bug has been acknowledged? ty

SirDopey · October 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno some acknowledgment about this, prettttttty pleeeeeeease

BFT88 · October 2016

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

ALL CAPITALS FOR IMPORTANCE.

MAGICKA SET DOES NOT WORK ON STAMINA ABILITIES.

This guys a special kind of snowflake. OP obviously meant sweeps bro lmfao.

Hymzir · October 2016

I tested it few days ago after having farmed it and it worked just fine. But to be sure, I tested it again just now. And yep, still works. The tooltip doesn't change for sweeps like it does for RD but the actual damage is still affected.

Also, when I tested it originally, I also checked if it worked with Lightning staff, and at least back then, it did boost the damage of heavy attacks from Lightning staff.

danno8 · October 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Papa_Hunt wrote: »

Sorry folks if I digging up something already determined. But is Soulshine currently working with Sweeps (magicka based) or not? If not, has ZoS acknowledged this in some other thread I can't find? I'd hate to know I dumped all that time and cash into getting gear if it isn't working and there aren't any quick plans to fix.

It is not working with sweeps. @Wrobel confirmed that they are working on a fix. I was hoping it would be fixed this patch but I guess we will have to wait at least another week. spent 650k gold and dozen of hours farming this to be ready asap but I guess it will fully function once everyone is done farming their own sets.

Where did Wrobel confirm that, cause he hasn't had a comment here for over a month?

Also it works for me just fine. I have tested it over and over again, lol.

edit: Nevermind, I just saw you "heard". This ain't Trump Forum!

Hymzir wrote: »

I tested it few days ago after having farmed it and it worked just fine. But to be sure, I tested it again just now. And yep, still works. The tooltip doesn't change for sweeps like it does for RD but the actual damage is still affected.

Also, when I tested it originally, I also checked if it worked with Lightning staff, and at least back then, it did boost the damage of heavy attacks from Lightning staff.

Same results for me. Why are people so confused? We know tooltips are always wonky, so not to use those. Actual damage goes up several hundred per strike when I equip the 5th bonus for Soulshine.

Perwulf · October 2016

For people wondering if Soulshine works or not. I got the set and did some testing with Puncturing Sweeps, the dps gain is around 1k-1.7k with Puncturing Sweeps alone but the real difference can be noticed with full combo which adds around 2k-3k dps.

So far Soulshine is working properly with magicka sweeps (not biting jabs), here are the results.

Valkyn[2] + Kagrenac's[5] + Soulshine[5] 5Light, 2Heavy, Dual Wield
Jewelry: Healthy Soulshine[3] Superb Glyph of Magicka Regen[1], Superb Glyph of Increase Magical Harm[2]
Puncturing Sweeps
49.7% crit procs, 9699 dps, 24 hits

Valkyn[2] + Kagrenac's[5] + Willpower[3] + Seducer[2] 5Light, 2Heavy, Dual Wield
Jewelry: Healthy Willpower[3] Superb Glyph of Magicka Regen[1], Superb Glyph of Increase Magical Harm[2]
Puncturing Sweeps
55.3% crit procs, 8395 dps, 28 hits

Take note that Soulshine is a magicka set not stamina set dunno where ppl got the idea that it'll work with jabs.

Edit: Made the pics clickable

Asardes · October 2016

You can know the set is crap just by looking at it:
- it's heavy armor (gimps penetration, cost reduction, regeneration, compared to light armor)
- it has healthy jewelry (gimps magicka compared to a set of arcane)
Overall, in any combo, the extra damage from the 5 piece bonus is less than the loss of stats the rest of the set causes. One Tamriel has a lot of sets that are like

(2 items) - Crap
(3 items) - More Crap
(4 items) - Absolute Crap
(5 items) - Smallish bonus that doesn't outweigh the above crap

Soulshine is just one of these. And trying to get purple jewelry and perfect trait armor pieces/weapons takes ages.