Please Limit PVP It is killing the towns and the game

Afafrenferr · October 2016

Should we have dueling in the game? ABSOLUTELY!! Should we have dueling in towns? Probably not. I honestly haven't even logged in since the patch, but there are people out there that aren't on optimal machines. Consideration for your fellow players is a good thing. And most towns have wayshrines near the city gates, so it's not such a big deal to walk a few more feet to duel. In no way is this a pve'r vs pvp'r argument, it's just kinda logical to me to have duels outside of towns. The only good argument for having duels in town (and inside the banks even) is RP. I don't RP, but I'll put money in there being a few people that wouldn't mind engaging in tavern brawls every now and then. Can't please everyone, and I don't want duels in town at all, so it just wasn't my turn this time.

Caligamy_ESO · October 2016

AGrz5585 wrote: »

I hung out in moutnhold last night.... didn't get spammed for duel requests, did not lag any more than usual in a main town

Do not see a problem here.

Also if dueling is such a nuisance to you then just turn on auto decline

This right here ^

Also I was in Stonefalls, Glenumbra, Auridon a great deal all day yesterday and 2 people challenged me to duels.. so where were you OP when you got 100's of spammed duel requests?

Caligamy_ESO · October 2016

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

AGrz5585 wrote: »

I hung out in moutnhold last night.... didn't get spammed for duel requests, did not lag any more than usual in a main town

Do not see a problem here.

Also if dueling is such a nuisance to you then just turn on auto decline

This right here ^

Also I was in Stonefalls, Glenumbra, Auridon a great deal all day yesterday and 2 people challenged me to duels.. so where were you OP when you got 100's of spammed duel requests?

Edit: My only disappointment so far was that it didn't allow me to duel in the boss room of the Grotto of Depravity which was absolutely perfect for it.

ugh... when you click quote instead of edit and dont even realize it..

vyndral13preub18_ESO · October 2016

I get it. PvP. Killing. I see what you did there.

Luigi_Vampa · October 2016

Afafrenferr wrote: »

Should we have dueling in the game? ABSOLUTELY!! Should we have dueling in towns? Probably not. I honestly haven't even logged in since the patch, but there are people out there that aren't on optimal machines. Consideration for your fellow players is a good thing. And most towns have wayshrines near the city gates, so it's not such a big deal to walk a few more feet to duel. In no way is this a pve'r vs pvp'r argument, it's just kinda logical to me to have duels outside of towns. The only good argument for having duels in town (and inside the banks even) is RP. I don't RP, but I'll put money in there being a few people that wouldn't mind engaging in tavern brawls every now and then. Can't please everyone, and I don't want duels in town at all, so it just wasn't my turn this time.

That is it. The shirt is coming off my Nord and I'm finding the nearest tavern and will /yell until someone accepts a good old fashioned no skills, no potions fistfight.

1v1 ME [Snip]

[Edited for Baiting]

Osteos · October 2016

Typhoios wrote: »

Afafrenferr wrote: »

Should we have dueling in the game? ABSOLUTELY!! Should we have dueling in towns? Probably not. I honestly haven't even logged in since the patch, but there are people out there that aren't on optimal machines. Consideration for your fellow players is a good thing. And most towns have wayshrines near the city gates, so it's not such a big deal to walk a few more feet to duel. In no way is this a pve'r vs pvp'r argument, it's just kinda logical to me to have duels outside of towns. The only good argument for having duels in town (and inside the banks even) is RP. I don't RP, but I'll put money in there being a few people that wouldn't mind engaging in tavern brawls every now and then. Can't please everyone, and I don't want duels in town at all, so it just wasn't my turn this time.

That is it. The shirt is coming off my Nord and I'm finding the nearest tavern and will /yell until someone accepts a good old fashioned no skills, no potions fistfight.

1v1 ME

Bring it Milk Drinker!

Eirella · October 2016

I disagree, I rarely get duel invites and I haven't seen that many people dueling in the center of towns. Most seem to duel on the outskirts of towns or in the middle of nowhere.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · October 2016

Typhoios wrote: »

Afafrenferr wrote: »

Should we have dueling in the game? ABSOLUTELY!! Should we have dueling in towns? Probably not. I honestly haven't even logged in since the patch, but there are people out there that aren't on optimal machines. Consideration for your fellow players is a good thing. And most towns have wayshrines near the city gates, so it's not such a big deal to walk a few more feet to duel. In no way is this a pve'r vs pvp'r argument, it's just kinda logical to me to have duels outside of towns. The only good argument for having duels in town (and inside the banks even) is RP. I don't RP, but I'll put money in there being a few people that wouldn't mind engaging in tavern brawls every now and then. Can't please everyone, and I don't want duels in town at all, so it just wasn't my turn this time.

That is it. The shirt is coming off my Nord and I'm finding the nearest tavern and will /yell until someone accepts a good old fashioned no skills, no potions fistfight.

1v1 ME

Osteos wrote: »

Typhoios wrote: »

Afafrenferr wrote: »

Should we have dueling in the game? ABSOLUTELY!! Should we have dueling in towns? Probably not. I honestly haven't even logged in since the patch, but there are people out there that aren't on optimal machines. Consideration for your fellow players is a good thing. And most towns have wayshrines near the city gates, so it's not such a big deal to walk a few more feet to duel. In no way is this a pve'r vs pvp'r argument, it's just kinda logical to me to have duels outside of towns. The only good argument for having duels in town (and inside the banks even) is RP. I don't RP, but I'll put money in there being a few people that wouldn't mind engaging in tavern brawls every now and then. Can't please everyone, and I don't want duels in town at all, so it just wasn't my turn this time.

That is it. The shirt is coming off my Nord and I'm finding the nearest tavern and will /yell until someone accepts a good old fashioned no skills, no potions fistfight.

1v1 ME YOU SON OF A HORKER!

Bring it Milk Drinker!

Why cant we all get along?

OdinForge · October 2016

Jinxycat wrote: »

I disagree, I rarely get duel invites and I haven't seen that many people dueling in the center of towns. Most seem to duel on the outskirts of towns or in the middle of nowhere.

Yeah.

There isn't anything wrong with dueling in towns, it's not as prolific as some here are making it out to be. The whole thing will die off sooner or later as people get bored of dueling all day non-stop. Restrictions suck and it's nice to be able to duel almost anywhere, especially if you just want to build test near services. People who really enjoy dueling will naturally avoid large crowds so that they can focus on the fight. I've already seen this last night in Mournhold, people moving to the outskirts of the city to be more secluded.

Make it so that auto-decline request doesn't notify the person disinterested in dueling and move on.

WillhelmBlack · October 2016

It wouldn't hurt if duelling was only allowed outside of towns and cities. It makes sense since there are guards, I bet they wouldn't like it.

How about, you can initiate a duel but it's a crime and if a guard catches you, you both get a telling off or a bounty?

Osteos · October 2016

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

It wouldn't hurt if duelling was only allowed outside of towns and cities. It makes sense since there are guards, I bet they wouldn't like it.

How about, you can initiate a duel but it's a crime and if a guard catches you, you both get a telling off or a bounty?

No sir. As the anti-pvp justice system people love to chant "No pvp repercussion for my pve activiites" this door swings both ways so No pve repercussions for my pvp activities

Besides most of this is blown way out of proportion. I hardly got challenged to duels and when i declined people just moved on. I didnt see anyone dueling in the bank or the crafting station in Wayrest. Let people play with their new shiny toy.

I think it adds a lot of life to the towns.

Daemons_Bane · October 2016

I agree with the statements saying YES to duels, but NO to duels in towns.. It also seems weird that guards/civilians have nothing against so many people fighting each other, throwing magic and steel everywhere.. Plus, as mentioned before, it produces lower framerates for people with a low end machine.. But I guess that it will get better eventually, as people get all the hype out of their system

Khaos_Bane · October 2016

Osteos wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

It wouldn't hurt if duelling was only allowed outside of towns and cities. It makes sense since there are guards, I bet they wouldn't like it.

How about, you can initiate a duel but it's a crime and if a guard catches you, you both get a telling off or a bounty?

No sir. As the anti-pvp justice system people love to chant "No pvp repercussion for my pve activiites" this door swings both ways so No pve repercussions for my pvp activities

Besides most of this is blown way out of proportion. I hardly got challenged to duels and when i declined people just moved on. I didnt see anyone dueling in the bank or the crafting station in Wayrest. Let people play with their new shiny toy.

I think it adds a lot of life to the towns.

No, PvP should be limited to specific areas, certainly not in towns. There simply is no way to justify it. Just enough immature players in the game that bug others. Having a duel right on a crafting table in front of other people or inside a bank. If THAT is your PvP activity it is ignorant and intentionally bothering other people. Dueling in those locations OFFERS YOU NOTHING but harassing others and that is complete BS.

bedlom · October 2016

OMG we never saw this coming.

catalyst10e · October 2016

Taylor_MB wrote: »

Yeah.... 95% of these people dueling are not PvP'ers, don't blame us, if we could we would never leave Cyrodiil, it's stupid we have to in order to duel.

Exactly this.... The duelers whined and got in the way of our PVP plenty of times, it's your turn now to deal with them.

raglau · October 2016

I'm not into duelling but I do feel that it's brought some life into my dead and stuffy old towns. I'm not suffering any lag from it, I think this is a non-issue.

KerinKor · October 2016

Duelling is PVP, it should only exist in PVP AREAS!

Publius_Scipio · October 2016

Nestor wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

I have to admit, I'm pretty sick of people complaining about duel invites WHEN THEY CAN BE AUTO DECLINED.

@Alucardo

Problem with the Auto Decline is, we are spammed with messages stating that we Auto-Declined the Duels. I don't want to know I auto declined, I don't want to know anything about the Duels. If the Autodecline would just do that and leave me alone, that would be one thing. But, I am constantly reminded by the game that I had the audacity to not participate in something I have no interest in participating in.

A tweak ZOS can push out in an update I'm sure.

Pallio · October 2016

Snowflakes will always want the most populated areas to get the most attention possible, avoid them if it causes lag or just ignore them otherwise.

catalyst10e · October 2016

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

Osteos wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

It wouldn't hurt if duelling was only allowed outside of towns and cities. It makes sense since there are guards, I bet they wouldn't like it.

How about, you can initiate a duel but it's a crime and if a guard catches you, you both get a telling off or a bounty?

No sir. As the anti-pvp justice system people love to chant "No pvp repercussion for my pve activiites" this door swings both ways so No pve repercussions for my pvp activities

Besides most of this is blown way out of proportion. I hardly got challenged to duels and when i declined people just moved on. I didnt see anyone dueling in the bank or the crafting station in Wayrest. Let people play with their new shiny toy.

I think it adds a lot of life to the towns.

No, PvP should be limited to specific areas, certainly not in towns. There simply is no way to justify it. Just enough immature players in the game that bug others. Having a duel right on a crafting table in front of other people or inside a bank. If THAT is your PvP activity it is ignorant and intentionally bothering other people. Dueling in those locations OFFERS YOU NOTHING but harassing others and that is complete BS.

Well to be fair, you need to FIND someone to challenge them, and where do you find people? In a town. The towns are a sort of HUB where you go when you're not doing anything terribly important. Grabbing a daily, crafting armor, swapping gear in the bank, etc, etc. Just basic things. You don't exactly find people in a delve and challenge them, they're busy DOING the delve or in a quest. Logically the town is the only place I could really SEE duels happening, unless it's with a person you know who previously agreed to a specific place.

Keep in mind tho, when Dark Brotherhood dropped, Kvatch was a ghost town of dead NPC bodies piled up everywhere. As mentioned before, the shine will wear off, duels most likely wont be so frequent within the towns and we will continue on as usual.

OneKhajiitCrimeWave · October 2016

This one thinks that the only restrictions should be directly around the wayshrine and around the guild traders, but this one would like to be able to sit outside the Waxing Crescent watching the walkers fight to their hearts content.

Khajiit thinks a little moon sugar rum and entertainment is in order when this comes to the console.

Troneon · October 2016

Maybe people will calm down a bit once the "oh new thing" has come and gone, if not then maybe limit it in some way in hub pve areas.

Davor · October 2016

Man I don't know what is going on or what has been added. What is this duelling people are talking about?

alexkdd99 · October 2016

I have never seen people so intent on sucking the joy out of other people's game.

Turn auto decline on. Stop crying over nonsense. As so many people have stated, give it time and people will be back to doing their normal things.

People are just looking for things to complain about.
TURN AUTO DECLINE ON!

If other people playing the game around you bothers you that much maybe you should go back to those single player games. Also not sure how you function in the world if other people doing something you don't like bothers you that much.
Get over it. Btw I do not duel, but I see no point in trying to limit what other people do enjoy.

Dahveed · October 2016

AmbrosiaPeach wrote: »

This new update has killed the game for a lot of people or is killing the game slowly but surely
1. Duelers are camping in town around the markets and Wayshrines which is not only really noisy and confusing but is lagging the worlds out when you go to town to do anything like oh research craft go to the bank ect
2. Getting spammed with 100s of invites to duel when you enter town not fun at all makes me want to log out right there
3. No need to play the game now just go kill 5000 mud crabs and you will level so you can beat the main boss
4. Elder Scrolls has ALWAYS been a story where you started low level and had to work your way up to a main boss you guys are making it more about PVP less about environment and bringing the PVP into the town where the PVE people have to be around 100s of people just waiting to duel when they would of been in the other world and town is crowded enough with all the duel

You could make it to where they can't PVP so many feet around market/towns/crafting benches/ ect that way we don't have to have all these people sitting and dueling messing up our gaming experience when they could be out in the out skirts of town or the woods where all the fighting is going on anyway or go to the PVP world.
Limit the numbers of duel invites a day they can send so that maybe it will calm down a bit on the spam invites and maybe there won't be 100s of people camping in town and making it IMPOSSIBLE TO DO ANYTHING INSIDE OF ANY TOWN

I can't believe they let people duel in towns.

I am always happy when they add new features like this... I think it will be fun for a lot of people. Eventually I will get to pvp but I am too much of a n00b.

Allowing dueling inside of towns is just facepalmcringeomgwtflol level of absurdity.

Korah_Eaglecry · October 2016

ZOS! ZOS! You introduced something new and everyones really enjoying it! I cant stand for this, please remove asap!

I_killed_Vivec · October 2016

Nestor wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

I have to admit, I'm pretty sick of people complaining about duel invites WHEN THEY CAN BE AUTO DECLINED.

@Alucardo

Problem with the Auto Decline is, we are spammed with messages stating that we Auto-Declined the Duels. I don't want to know I auto declined, I don't want to know anything about the Duels. If the Autodecline would just do that and leave me alone, that would be one thing. But, I am constantly reminded by the game that I had the audacity to not participate in something I have no interest in participating in.

You get a notification if the auto-decline kicks in?

But... but... that means nobody has asked me

I might have to turn decline off... just to get a bit of attention

Bam_Bam · October 2016

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Tandor · October 2016

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

ZOS! ZOS! You introduced something new and everyones really enjoying it! I cant stand for this, please remove asap!

There's a massive difference between asking for it to be removed (which nobody is) and asking for it to be moved (which is a perfectly reasonable request in towns and around popular wayshrines, as is asking for auto-decline to be unaccompanied by messages telling you that you auto-declined an invitation).

Korah_Eaglecry · October 2016

Tandor wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

ZOS! ZOS! You introduced something new and everyones really enjoying it! I cant stand for this, please remove asap!

There's a massive difference between asking for it to be removed (which nobody is) and asking for it to be moved (which is a perfectly reasonable request in towns and around popular wayshrines, as is asking for auto-decline to be unaccompanied by messages telling you that you auto-declined an invitation).

Give them an inch, they'll take a mile. This game is not all about you or anyone else crying about this. I can get behind the notification. But I could careless that you have your feelings hurt about people enjoying this game in your view.