Excited for the 2nd/3rd/4th Cycles of Crown Crates?

Browiseth · October 2016

Other

I'm indifferent

desciviib14_ESO · October 2016

I didn't vote because yes, they look cool but NO I don't and won't gamble.

EQBallzz · October 2016

Other

Not just no but HELL NO.

Pandorii · October 2016

No

What really drives me away is that they're taking crown items they've developed months and months ago (like the hairstyles and makeup from the Dark Brotherhood PTS) and holding them hostage to stuff the crates with months and months from now.

I won't touch the crates. I won't gamble. If there's something in there I really want, I'll convince myself that I don't want it. What I can't stand is that the quality of items that will be available to purchase outside the crates will be affected by the crates. The good stuff will be saved and stuffed in the boxes.

In other words, I'm being negatively impacted by the crates EVEN if I decide not to participate in them!

Milvan · October 2016

Yes

I'll probably get a few boxes, I don't really use my crowns on anything anyway. But Its not like I'll put 100$ on it and real money farm it.

Tho, I would prompt buy the mounts from the crown store.

Snit · October 2016

Other

From beta, all I really wanted for cosmetics was a goblin costume and a wolf mount. I have both. Further crown shop appearance items and collectibles simply don't affect me, as I'm happily free of 'gotta have 'em all' syndrome.

Recremen · October 2016

No

I was excited when these were datamined and I thought they were going to be normal Crown Store purchases. When it came out that they were going in gambling boxes my heart sunk. To hell with them.

EL1TE · October 2016

Sort of

Vaoh wrote: »

My theory is that we will receive themed mounts for each class, whether in-game or not.
- Dragonknight: Lava mounts (fiery)
- Sorcerers: Atroanch mounts (storm-based) <--- in-game
- Nightblade: Idk but it'll have glowing red lights, perhaps a stupid "Daedric" theme
- Templar: Something with lots of bright yellow lights, perhaps a stupid "Aedric" theme
- Warden (the future 5th class): Wild Hunt <--- datamined
- Necromancer (scrapped 6th class): Skeletal <--- datamined

I've read somewhere, i think on reddit someone mentioning a Dark Brotherhood crate.

Myrrdinn2014 · October 2016

No

I never have and never will enjoy *** RNG crates. Its just a low blow cash grab and blatantly setup to force you to spend twice as much as you would if they just offered the mount/item for a flat guaranteed price.

Lumenn · October 2016

No

Pandorii wrote: »

What really drives me away is that they're taking crown items they've developed months and months ago (like the hairstyles and makeup from the Dark Brotherhood PTS) and holding them hostage to stuff the crates with months and months from now.

I won't touch the crates. I won't gamble. If there's something in there I really want, I'll convince myself that I don't want it. What I can't stand is that the quality of items that will be available to purchase outside the crates will be affected by the crates. The good stuff will be saved and stuffed in the boxes.

In other words, I'm being negatively impacted by the crates EVEN if I decide not to participate in them!

What bugs ME is the quality that went into the whole crate system while at the same time increasing crashes, a whole dlc we were just told to avoid, bugs, glitches, cheats etc. They could have assigned this team to fix anything(even slimming down the Breton costume) If anyone has any doubts that they will concentrate on the crates (a system the overwhelming majority of posters, polls, etc don't want)over the game keep in mind they have already done so and it isn't even released yet.

Palindiil · October 2016

No

Vaoh wrote: »

Even with extensive datamining, we cannot possibly begin to know exactly what ZOS plans to put into those Crown Crates in the future. We know of only two future themed mount cycles (Skeletal, Wild Hunt).

I think there are Dwemer mounts somewhere in the works...

AmberLaTerra · October 2016

Yes

the only ones who should be voting no about this are ZOS themselves realizing all the money many of us would have spent to get these mounts directly they now will never see

(Once again note my yes vote is purely sarcastic and I hate the scam boxes and am a proud member of PAWS)

Bouldercleave · October 2016

Other

I had to vote other because I simply do not care. I'm not going to have anything that comes in one of these crates (As I have posted on the 29187463213 other threads), but I'm not going to fault those who do.

I'm also not going to fault ZoS for trying to make money - they are a business and are trying to maximize the return on investment on a commodity that has a fairly short average life cycle.

If you don't like how they are conducting themselves, then leave. Start your own company, seduce investors to back your idea, spend millions of your (and your investors) dollars, and bring your own game to market. Then you can explain to the investors why they aren't getting a return on their investment because you refuse to implement known and proven revenue generators because revenue in a hyper competitive market like online gaming should just "happen on its own".

I see nothing but a lot of ranting and raving by a bunch of folks that have very little idea of how things work out in the real world of business.

My personal opinion? They should have just left it as a subscription model.

Acrolas · October 2016

I'll embrace blind boxes just as soon as they approve me selling off my account to the highest bidder.
So long as my account is financially worthless, they can go *** themselves.

Sotha_Sil · October 2016

@Palindiil
Yes dwemer was also datamined :

atronach

dwemer

skeletal

wildhunt

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3339768#Comment_3339768

wayfarerx · October 2016

No

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I had to vote other because I simply do not care. I'm not going to have anything that comes in one of these crates (As I have posted on the 29187463213 other threads), but I'm not going to fault those who do.

I'm also not going to fault ZoS for trying to make money - they are a business and are trying to maximize the return on investment on a commodity that has a fairly short average life cycle.

Where do you draw the line, though? If you don't think blind gamble crates are unethical then how about VW's lies on emissions testing? Just maximizing the bottom line, right? Or the vast, systemic fraud at Wells Fargo? Gotta hit those revenue projections!

Bouldercleave wrote: »

If you don't like how they are conducting themselves, then leave. Start your own company, seduce investors to back your idea, spend millions of your (and your investors) dollars, and bring your own game to market. Then you can explain to the investors why they aren't getting a return on their investment because you refuse to implement known and proven revenue generators because revenue in a hyper competitive market like online gaming should just "happen on its own".

Already do this at work, I'm looking to relax here without getting ripped off.

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I see nothing but a lot of ranting and raving by a bunch of folks that have very little idea of how things work out in the real world of business.

The vast majority of businesses in the world do just fine without having to rely on their customers making rash, poorly-informed decisions about how to spend their money. Even the skeeviest casinos out there are more transparent about what you spend and what you can expect to get back than ZOS's gamble crates. This is a choice ZOS has made and as customers we have every right to see it as predatory and unnecessary.

sam0621 · October 2016

Can't wait for the crown to win crates which will include blue food that buffs 2 stats the same and spell or wep damage by 1000 along with 3temps and 6 wax

Bouldercleave · October 2016

Other

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I had to vote other because I simply do not care. I'm not going to have anything that comes in one of these crates (As I have posted on the 29187463213 other threads), but I'm not going to fault those who do.

I'm also not going to fault ZoS for trying to make money - they are a business and are trying to maximize the return on investment on a commodity that has a fairly short average life cycle.

Where do you draw the line, though? If you don't think blind gamble crates are unethical then how about VW's lies on emissions testing? Just maximizing the bottom line, right? Or the vast, systemic fraud at Wells Fargo? Gotta hit those revenue projections!

Bouldercleave wrote: »

If you don't like how they are conducting themselves, then leave. Start your own company, seduce investors to back your idea, spend millions of your (and your investors) dollars, and bring your own game to market. Then you can explain to the investors why they aren't getting a return on their investment because you refuse to implement known and proven revenue generators because revenue in a hyper competitive market like online gaming should just "happen on its own".

Already do this at work, I'm looking to relax here without getting ripped off.

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I see nothing but a lot of ranting and raving by a bunch of folks that have very little idea of how things work out in the real world of business.

The vast majority of businesses in the world do just fine without having to rely on their customers making rash, poorly-informed decisions about how to spend their money. Even the skeeviest casinos out there are more transparent about what you spend and what you can expect to get back than ZOS's gamble crates. This is a choice ZOS has made and as customers we have every right to see it as predatory and unnecessary.

Then Don't Buy One

Pretty simple

Vaoh · October 2016

No

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

@Palindiil
Yes dwemer was also datamined :

atronach

dwemer

skeletal

wildhunt

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3339768#Comment_3339768

Wow. Okay. I'll update the main post I guess. Smh

wayfarerx · October 2016

No

Bouldercleave wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I had to vote other because I simply do not care. I'm not going to have anything that comes in one of these crates (As I have posted on the 29187463213 other threads), but I'm not going to fault those who do.

I'm also not going to fault ZoS for trying to make money - they are a business and are trying to maximize the return on investment on a commodity that has a fairly short average life cycle.

Where do you draw the line, though? If you don't think blind gamble crates are unethical then how about VW's lies on emissions testing? Just maximizing the bottom line, right? Or the vast, systemic fraud at Wells Fargo? Gotta hit those revenue projections!

Bouldercleave wrote: »

If you don't like how they are conducting themselves, then leave. Start your own company, seduce investors to back your idea, spend millions of your (and your investors) dollars, and bring your own game to market. Then you can explain to the investors why they aren't getting a return on their investment because you refuse to implement known and proven revenue generators because revenue in a hyper competitive market like online gaming should just "happen on its own".

Already do this at work, I'm looking to relax here without getting ripped off.

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I see nothing but a lot of ranting and raving by a bunch of folks that have very little idea of how things work out in the real world of business.

The vast majority of businesses in the world do just fine without having to rely on their customers making rash, poorly-informed decisions about how to spend their money. Even the skeeviest casinos out there are more transparent about what you spend and what you can expect to get back than ZOS's gamble crates. This is a choice ZOS has made and as customers we have every right to see it as predatory and unnecessary.

Then Don't Buy One

Pretty simple

Oh I won't, no problem there. However I also find these things ethically repulsive and hate the idea of them being added to a game that I love. So I'll keep posting about them and voicing my displeasure in the hope that ZOS will take the small steps that are needed to turn these things from a scam into just a product I can ignore.

Dahveed · October 2016

Auricle wrote: »

Do I look forward to watching more effort and production going towards flashy, non-lore friendly sparklemounts & RNGesus shrines than is directed toward in-game items? No.

Do I look forward to the surge of annoyed forum posts about said new sparklemounts when they emerge on cue from their greedmother's womb? Nah, not really.

Am I going to let these things ruin my day? Hell no. I'll happily avoid these crates like the damn plague and keep on playing eso as if they did not exist.

The problem is that the game world will become progressively harder to take seriously.

This is a big reason why I just can't play WoW anymore, even though it was my favorite game for YEARS.

You walk around in a player hub and everyone is flying around on their magic sparkle dragons being followed by their idiotic "Lil' Rag" or "Lil' KT" or whatever the hell. It is completely ridiculous.

They should allow players a toggle so that all these crazy sparkly mounts are just displayed as horses on my own PC, and an option to entirely toggle player's pets (this would increase performance on a lot of PCs as well).

I'm already getting sick of seeing everyone's monkeys and pet Ice Wraiths following them around, it's idiotic.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · October 2016

Yes

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

@Palindiil
Yes dwemer was also datamined :

atronach

dwemer

skeletal

wildhunt

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3339768#Comment_3339768

It is going to be hard for me to resist those dwemer crates especially if they have cool dwemer cosmetics

Vaoh · October 2016

No

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I had to vote other because I simply do not care. I'm not going to have anything that comes in one of these crates (As I have posted on the 29187463213 other threads), but I'm not going to fault those who do.

I'm also not going to fault ZoS for trying to make money - they are a business and are trying to maximize the return on investment on a commodity that has a fairly short average life cycle.

Where do you draw the line, though? If you don't think blind gamble crates are unethical then how about VW's lies on emissions testing? Just maximizing the bottom line, right? Or the vast, systemic fraud at Wells Fargo? Gotta hit those revenue projections!

Bouldercleave wrote: »

If you don't like how they are conducting themselves, then leave. Start your own company, seduce investors to back your idea, spend millions of your (and your investors) dollars, and bring your own game to market. Then you can explain to the investors why they aren't getting a return on their investment because you refuse to implement known and proven revenue generators because revenue in a hyper competitive market like online gaming should just "happen on its own".

Already do this at work, I'm looking to relax here without getting ripped off.

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I see nothing but a lot of ranting and raving by a bunch of folks that have very little idea of how things work out in the real world of business.

The vast majority of businesses in the world do just fine without having to rely on their customers making rash, poorly-informed decisions about how to spend their money. Even the skeeviest casinos out there are more transparent about what you spend and what you can expect to get back than ZOS's gamble crates. This is a choice ZOS has made and as customers we have every right to see it as predatory and unnecessary.

Then Don't Buy One

Pretty simple

Oh I won't, no problem there. However I also find these things ethically repulsive and hate the idea of them being added to a game that I love. So I'll keep posting about them and voicing my displeasure in the hope that ZOS will take the small steps that are needed to turn these things from a scam into just a product I can ignore.

100% agree with you here

Valen_Byte · October 2016

No

Hate it, wont buy it. Every update gets closer to being the end.

Perwulf · October 2016

Other

And they might be controlling the rng results the whole time.

Bouldercleave · October 2016

Other

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I had to vote other because I simply do not care. I'm not going to have anything that comes in one of these crates (As I have posted on the 29187463213 other threads), but I'm not going to fault those who do.

I'm also not going to fault ZoS for trying to make money - they are a business and are trying to maximize the return on investment on a commodity that has a fairly short average life cycle.

Where do you draw the line, though? If you don't think blind gamble crates are unethical then how about VW's lies on emissions testing? Just maximizing the bottom line, right? Or the vast, systemic fraud at Wells Fargo? Gotta hit those revenue projections!

Bouldercleave wrote: »

If you don't like how they are conducting themselves, then leave. Start your own company, seduce investors to back your idea, spend millions of your (and your investors) dollars, and bring your own game to market. Then you can explain to the investors why they aren't getting a return on their investment because you refuse to implement known and proven revenue generators because revenue in a hyper competitive market like online gaming should just "happen on its own".

Already do this at work, I'm looking to relax here without getting ripped off.

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I see nothing but a lot of ranting and raving by a bunch of folks that have very little idea of how things work out in the real world of business.

The vast majority of businesses in the world do just fine without having to rely on their customers making rash, poorly-informed decisions about how to spend their money. Even the skeeviest casinos out there are more transparent about what you spend and what you can expect to get back than ZOS's gamble crates. This is a choice ZOS has made and as customers we have every right to see it as predatory and unnecessary.

Then Don't Buy One

Pretty simple

Oh I won't, no problem there. However I also find these things ethically repulsive and hate the idea of them being added to a game that I love. So I'll keep posting about them and voicing my displeasure in the hope that ZOS will take the small steps that are needed to turn these things from a scam into just a product I can ignore.

The ONLY way that it will change is if you vote with your wallet. If these things are successful in any way, they will only get worse. They are PROVEN to work in the short term and WE are the only ones that can change that.

You may be surprised that we are actually on more or less the same side on this issue. It's just our method of showing dissent that differs by a vast amount. Instead of ranting on the forums, I have got the 5 500 member guilds I belong to to boycott the crates (I hope they actually do it). I prefer to do something proactive instead of banging my head against the wall.

The only way for these to go away is for them to fail financially. The O N L Y way.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · October 2016

No

What's that saying about a fool and their money?

wayfarerx · October 2016

No

Bouldercleave wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I had to vote other because I simply do not care. I'm not going to have anything that comes in one of these crates (As I have posted on the 29187463213 other threads), but I'm not going to fault those who do.

I'm also not going to fault ZoS for trying to make money - they are a business and are trying to maximize the return on investment on a commodity that has a fairly short average life cycle.

Where do you draw the line, though? If you don't think blind gamble crates are unethical then how about VW's lies on emissions testing? Just maximizing the bottom line, right? Or the vast, systemic fraud at Wells Fargo? Gotta hit those revenue projections!

Bouldercleave wrote: »

If you don't like how they are conducting themselves, then leave. Start your own company, seduce investors to back your idea, spend millions of your (and your investors) dollars, and bring your own game to market. Then you can explain to the investors why they aren't getting a return on their investment because you refuse to implement known and proven revenue generators because revenue in a hyper competitive market like online gaming should just "happen on its own".

Already do this at work, I'm looking to relax here without getting ripped off.

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I see nothing but a lot of ranting and raving by a bunch of folks that have very little idea of how things work out in the real world of business.

The vast majority of businesses in the world do just fine without having to rely on their customers making rash, poorly-informed decisions about how to spend their money. Even the skeeviest casinos out there are more transparent about what you spend and what you can expect to get back than ZOS's gamble crates. This is a choice ZOS has made and as customers we have every right to see it as predatory and unnecessary.

Then Don't Buy One

Pretty simple

Oh I won't, no problem there. However I also find these things ethically repulsive and hate the idea of them being added to a game that I love. So I'll keep posting about them and voicing my displeasure in the hope that ZOS will take the small steps that are needed to turn these things from a scam into just a product I can ignore.

The ONLY way that it will change is if you vote with your wallet. If these things are successful in any way, they will only get worse. They are PROVEN to work in the short term and WE are the only ones that can change that.

You may be surprised that we are actually on more or less the same side on this issue. It's just our method of showing dissent that differs by a vast amount. Instead of ranting on the forums, I have got the 5 500 member guilds I belong to to boycott the crages (I hope they actually do it). I prefer to do something proactive instead of banging my head against the wall.

The only way for these to go away is for them to fail financially. The O N L Y way.

Agree 100%. Thing is for me I'm kinda a loner and have a pretty short friends / guild list. So forum ranting is the best avenue I have to influence the direction ZOS takes here. Good on you for pushing it in game though.

RomansXXI · October 2016

No

If these were available for direct purchase for a limited time like the dro mathra senche then yes. I will happily drop 5k crowns only if there is a 100% chance I will get the mount 1% less and not a chance in hell I'd invest a single crown in this gambling scam.

Dahveed · October 2016

Bouldercleave wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I had to vote other because I simply do not care. I'm not going to have anything that comes in one of these crates (As I have posted on the 29187463213 other threads), but I'm not going to fault those who do.

I'm also not going to fault ZoS for trying to make money - they are a business and are trying to maximize the return on investment on a commodity that has a fairly short average life cycle.

Where do you draw the line, though? If you don't think blind gamble crates are unethical then how about VW's lies on emissions testing? Just maximizing the bottom line, right? Or the vast, systemic fraud at Wells Fargo? Gotta hit those revenue projections!

Bouldercleave wrote: »

If you don't like how they are conducting themselves, then leave. Start your own company, seduce investors to back your idea, spend millions of your (and your investors) dollars, and bring your own game to market. Then you can explain to the investors why they aren't getting a return on their investment because you refuse to implement known and proven revenue generators because revenue in a hyper competitive market like online gaming should just "happen on its own".

Already do this at work, I'm looking to relax here without getting ripped off.

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I see nothing but a lot of ranting and raving by a bunch of folks that have very little idea of how things work out in the real world of business.

The vast majority of businesses in the world do just fine without having to rely on their customers making rash, poorly-informed decisions about how to spend their money. Even the skeeviest casinos out there are more transparent about what you spend and what you can expect to get back than ZOS's gamble crates. This is a choice ZOS has made and as customers we have every right to see it as predatory and unnecessary.

Then Don't Buy One

Pretty simple

Oh I won't, no problem there. However I also find these things ethically repulsive and hate the idea of them being added to a game that I love. So I'll keep posting about them and voicing my displeasure in the hope that ZOS will take the small steps that are needed to turn these things from a scam into just a product I can ignore.

The ONLY way that it will change is if you vote with your wallet. If these things are successful in any way, they will only get worse. They are PROVEN to work in the short term and WE are the only ones that can change that.

You may be surprised that we are actually on more or less the same side on this issue. It's just our method of showing dissent that differs by a vast amount. Instead of ranting on the forums, I have got the 5 500 member guilds I belong to to boycott the crates (I hope they actually do it). I prefer to do something proactive instead of banging my head against the wall.

The only way for these to go away is for them to fail financially. The O N L Y way.

+1000

I really hope these stupid crates are a MASSIVE failure.