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Devs get rid of the damage portion of Hurricane

  • Alucardo
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    Pathfinder wrote: »
    Honestly, just make hurricane a static ground aoe that doesnt move with the sorc.

    And make it completely useless?
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Pathfinder wrote: »
    Honestly, just make hurricane a static ground aoe that doesnt move with the sorc.

    And make it completely useless?

    Only way to keep it relevant would be to reverse the dmg component. No build up but instead it goes down. But that are my dreams for all ground aoes so meh...
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  • Alucardo
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    Derra wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Pathfinder wrote: »
    Honestly, just make hurricane a static ground aoe that doesnt move with the sorc.

    And make it completely useless?

    Only way to keep it relevant would be to reverse the dmg component. No build up but instead it goes down. But that are my dreams for all ground aoes so meh...

    The thing is, it's not like the damage of Hurricane is excessive or anything. it only starts hitting semi-hard on the few very last ticks before it expires.
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    Storm Calling
    • Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): Fixed an issue where this morph did not gain any benefits as it increased in rank. It now deals slightly more damage as it ranks up.
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  • loki547
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    Rohaus wrote: »
    Storm Calling
    • Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): Fixed an issue where this morph did not gain any benefits as it increased in rank. It now deals slightly more damage as it ranks up.

    155 replies, 31 Agrees for a Hurricane nerf: ZoS increases the damage of Hurricane.
  • HoloYoitsu
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    Rohaus wrote: »
    I wish Bone Shield scaled off of Stamina instead of health…
    Would you also like a stam morph of Bolt Escape to go with that?
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    loki547 wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Storm Calling
    • Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): Fixed an issue where this morph did not gain any benefits as it increased in rank. It now deals slightly more damage as it ranks up.

    155 replies, 31 Agrees for a Hurricane nerf: ZoS increases the damage of Hurricane.

    You say 155 replies, but a lot of those replies are general banter and quite a few saying it's fine the way it is. 31 agrees is not enough to have a skill kicked into the dirt. I don't say this very often because it's generally not called for, but if you are having trouble dealing with hurricane then you seriously need to l2p
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    loki547 wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Storm Calling
    • Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): Fixed an issue where this morph did not gain any benefits as it increased in rank. It now deals slightly more damage as it ranks up.

    155 replies, 31 Agrees for a Hurricane nerf: ZoS increases the damage of Hurricane.

    You say 155 replies, but a lot of those replies are general banter and quite a few saying it's fine the way it is. 31 agrees is not enough to have a skill kicked into the dirt. I don't say this very often because it's generally not called for, but if you are having trouble dealing with hurricane then you seriously need to l2p
    Acronyms can be so confusing at times. What he means is "[Learn 2 Post] complaints on the forums until it's nerfed."
  • loki547
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    loki547 wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Storm Calling
    • Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): Fixed an issue where this morph did not gain any benefits as it increased in rank. It now deals slightly more damage as it ranks up.

    155 replies, 31 Agrees for a Hurricane nerf: ZoS increases the damage of Hurricane.

    You say 155 replies, but a lot of those replies are general banter and quite a few saying it's fine the way it is. 31 agrees is not enough to have a skill kicked into the dirt. I don't say this very often because it's generally not called for, but if you are having trouble dealing with hurricane then you seriously need to l2p

    The only people saying it's fine are stam sorcs.
    Edited by loki547 on October 5, 2016 5:41PM
  • Erock25
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    loki547 wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    loki547 wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Storm Calling
    • Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): Fixed an issue where this morph did not gain any benefits as it increased in rank. It now deals slightly more damage as it ranks up.

    155 replies, 31 Agrees for a Hurricane nerf: ZoS increases the damage of Hurricane.

    You say 155 replies, but a lot of those replies are general banter and quite a few saying it's fine the way it is. 31 agrees is not enough to have a skill kicked into the dirt. I don't say this very often because it's generally not called for, but if you are having trouble dealing with hurricane then you seriously need to l2p

    The only people saying it's fine are stam sorcs.

    No, not really. Way more people have said it's fine then not. You really need to stop the whining.
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  • The-Baconator
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    The current strength of stamina sorc compared to magicka sorc is a perfect example of how borked this meta is. Why would I gimp myself and my group by picking magicka sorc when I could have better single target spammables\dots, better single target burst, better AoE spammables\dots, better AoE burst, better mobility, better sustain, and better survivability with a stam sorc? With a stam sorc I can have it all with dual wield bow, 2h bow, OR bow dw while I HAVE to run destro if I want a spammable AoE (that barely hits as hard as a single dual wield light attack which covers half of the area of steel nado, an ability that consistently has a higher tooltip while being an execute) OR a single target spammable for magicka sorc.

    On that note I personally don't have too much of a problem with hurricane as it stands. I would prefer they bring stam overall down a notch before we go about gutting class specific skills, especially when hurricane itself is just the tip of the iceberg.
    Edited by The-Baconator on October 5, 2016 6:03PM
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  • Magus
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    The current strength of stamina sorc compared to magicka sorc is a perfect example of how borked this meta is. Why would I gimp myself and my group by picking magicka sorc when I could have better single target spammables\dots, better single target burst, better AoE spammables\dots, better AoE burst, better mobility, better sustain, and better survivability with a stam sorc? With a stam sorc I can have it all with dual wield bow, 2h bow, OR bow dw while I HAVE to run destro if I want a spammable AoE (that barely hits as hard as a single dual wield light attack which covers half of the area of steel nado, an ability that consistently has a higher tooltip while being an execute) OR a single target spammable for magicka sorc.

    On that note I personally don't have too much of a problem with hurricane as it stands. I would prefer bring stam overall down a notch before we go about gutting class specific skills, especially when hurricane itself is just the tip of the iceberg.

    You choose magsorc so you can spam encase on people for the rest of your stam group to neatly dawnbreaker the confused people not knowing why they can't move.
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  • The-Baconator
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    Magus wrote: »
    The current strength of stamina sorc compared to magicka sorc is a perfect example of how borked this meta is. Why would I gimp myself and my group by picking magicka sorc when I could have better single target spammables\dots, better single target burst, better AoE spammables\dots, better AoE burst, better mobility, better sustain, and better survivability with a stam sorc? With a stam sorc I can have it all with dual wield bow, 2h bow, OR bow dw while I HAVE to run destro if I want a spammable AoE (that barely hits as hard as a single dual wield light attack which covers half of the area of steel nado, an ability that consistently has a higher tooltip while being an execute) OR a single target spammable for magicka sorc.

    On that note I personally don't have too much of a problem with hurricane as it stands. I would prefer bring stam overall down a notch before we go about gutting class specific skills, especially when hurricane itself is just the tip of the iceberg.

    You choose magsorc so you can spam encase on people for the rest of your stam group to neatly dawnbreaker the confused people not knowing why they can't move.

    Why would I use encase when bombard exists?
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    Magus wrote: »
    The current strength of stamina sorc compared to magicka sorc is a perfect example of how borked this meta is. Why would I gimp myself and my group by picking magicka sorc when I could have better single target spammables\dots, better single target burst, better AoE spammables\dots, better AoE burst, better mobility, better sustain, and better survivability with a stam sorc? With a stam sorc I can have it all with dual wield bow, 2h bow, OR bow dw while I HAVE to run destro if I want a spammable AoE (that barely hits as hard as a single dual wield light attack which covers half of the area of steel nado, an ability that consistently has a higher tooltip while being an execute) OR a single target spammable for magicka sorc.

    On that note I personally don't have too much of a problem with hurricane as it stands. I would prefer bring stam overall down a notch before we go about gutting class specific skills, especially when hurricane itself is just the tip of the iceberg.

    You choose magsorc so you can spam encase on people for the rest of your stam group to neatly dawnbreaker the confused people not knowing why they can't move.

    Why would I use encase when bombard exists?

    Most people know what bombard is but don't know what encase is and are much more thoroughly confused by it.
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  • HoloYoitsu
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    Magus wrote: »
    The current strength of stamina sorc compared to magicka sorc is a perfect example of how borked this meta is. Why would I gimp myself and my group by picking magicka sorc when I could have better single target spammables\dots, better single target burst, better AoE spammables\dots, better AoE burst, better mobility, better sustain, and better survivability with a stam sorc? With a stam sorc I can have it all with dual wield bow, 2h bow, OR bow dw while I HAVE to run destro if I want a spammable AoE (that barely hits as hard as a single dual wield light attack which covers half of the area of steel nado, an ability that consistently has a higher tooltip while being an execute) OR a single target spammable for magicka sorc.

    On that note I personally don't have too much of a problem with hurricane as it stands. I would prefer bring stam overall down a notch before we go about gutting class specific skills, especially when hurricane itself is just the tip of the iceberg.

    You choose magsorc so you can spam encase on people for the rest of your stam group to neatly dawnbreaker the confused people not knowing why they can't move.

    Why would I use encase when bombard exists?
    Because you'd rather use an ability that costs almost twice as much mag as bombard costs stam, does no dmg to boot, has a wonky effect area, and doesn't register as well in lag.
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Magus wrote: »
    The current strength of stamina sorc compared to magicka sorc is a perfect example of how borked this meta is. Why would I gimp myself and my group by picking magicka sorc when I could have better single target spammables\dots, better single target burst, better AoE spammables\dots, better AoE burst, better mobility, better sustain, and better survivability with a stam sorc? With a stam sorc I can have it all with dual wield bow, 2h bow, OR bow dw while I HAVE to run destro if I want a spammable AoE (that barely hits as hard as a single dual wield light attack which covers half of the area of steel nado, an ability that consistently has a higher tooltip while being an execute) OR a single target spammable for magicka sorc.

    On that note I personally don't have too much of a problem with hurricane as it stands. I would prefer bring stam overall down a notch before we go about gutting class specific skills, especially when hurricane itself is just the tip of the iceberg.

    You choose magsorc so you can spam encase on people for the rest of your stam group to neatly dawnbreaker the confused people not knowing why they can't move.

    Why would I use encase when bombard exists?
    Because you'd rather use an ability that costs almost twice as much mag as bombard costs stam, does no dmg to boot, has a wonky effect area, and doesn't register as well in lag.

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    lol, hurricane is doing too much damage?
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    So funny. Look how quiet unbiased Fengrush is now

    Bro werent you the guy who was angry with stam sorc after losing a duel when it was literally the worst class in game? Pretty sure your egonna want a nerf at any point if you lost to stam sorc in 1.6 or something?

    Stop be unbiased FENGRUSH. :'(
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    Just to reiterate, I have spent the vast majority of my time in ESO playing on my Stam DK... now that I have put some time into my Stam Sorc... I am fine with the way they are.

    I do wish though that Stam Sorcs had more applicable passives...
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    Buff Mag Sorc then
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    I'm fine with the damage of Hurricane...it's a bit much if I'm stuck in the radius of 2-3 of them, and I'm not wild about passively proc'ing an execute. But there's bigger fish to fry as far as stam damage goes.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    loki547 wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    loki547 wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Storm Calling
    • Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): Fixed an issue where this morph did not gain any benefits as it increased in rank. It now deals slightly more damage as it ranks up.

    155 replies, 31 Agrees for a Hurricane nerf: ZoS increases the damage of Hurricane.

    You say 155 replies, but a lot of those replies are general banter and quite a few saying it's fine the way it is. 31 agrees is not enough to have a skill kicked into the dirt. I don't say this very often because it's generally not called for, but if you are having trouble dealing with hurricane then you seriously need to l2p

    The only people saying it's fine are stam sorcs.

    No, not really. Way more people have said it's fine then not. You really need to stop the whining.

    ^ stam sorc
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    loki547 wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    loki547 wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    loki547 wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Storm Calling
    • Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): Fixed an issue where this morph did not gain any benefits as it increased in rank. It now deals slightly more damage as it ranks up.

    155 replies, 31 Agrees for a Hurricane nerf: ZoS increases the damage of Hurricane.

    You say 155 replies, but a lot of those replies are general banter and quite a few saying it's fine the way it is. 31 agrees is not enough to have a skill kicked into the dirt. I don't say this very often because it's generally not called for, but if you are having trouble dealing with hurricane then you seriously need to l2p

    The only people saying it's fine are stam sorcs.

    No, not really. Way more people have said it's fine then not. You really need to stop the whining.

    ^ stam sorc

    You act like that proves your point. Are you just totally oblivious to the people saying it's fine?
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  • ManDraKE
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    lol, hurricane is doing too much damage?

    the dmg is not the problem, the AoE dmg proc'ing implosion is. As i said above, implosion should only proc from single target attacks/Dots, no AoE effects.

    Don't tell me than a passive AoE execute is "fine".....
    Edited by ManDraKE on October 5, 2016 7:28PM
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    RebornV3x wrote: »
    Buff Mag Sorc then

    I don't know how anyone would have fun playing a mag sorc now nor when they were considered OP... the play style of hovering around land mines that you plant on the ground... BORING!!!
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    Rohaus wrote: »
    RebornV3x wrote: »
    Buff Mag Sorc then

    I don't know how anyone would have fun playing a mag sorc now nor when they were considered OP... the play style of hovering around land mines that you plant on the ground... BORING!!!

    Well, they sort of nerfed their mobility and defense. Sitting in mines is all that's left.
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    lol, hurricane is doing too much damage?

    the dmg is not the problem, the AoE dmg proc'ing implosion is. As i said above, implosion should only proc from single target attacks/Dots, no AoE effects.

    Don't tell me than a passive AoE execute is "fine".....

    When you say it arbitrarily like that… sure, sounds OP… but the reality is that it procs when a target is below 15% health AND only has a 6% chance to do so.

    If you allow yourself to get that low in health… you probably should die and quick like so you can get back to the forums and continue your busy work…
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    lol, hurricane is doing too much damage?

    the dmg is not the problem, the AoE dmg proc'ing implosion is. As i said above, implosion should only proc from single target attacks/Dots, no AoE effects.

    Don't tell me than a passive AoE execute is "fine".....

    6% chance under 15% HP. I'd say average HP in cyro is 25k now a days so that 3750 HP. Were you going to live with only 3750 HP left? Maybe, but considering the 6% chance, you're crazy to think Hurricane is OP for implosion procs.

    Every week magicka users come up with another reason that stamina users are OP.
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  • loki547
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    ManDraKE wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    lol, hurricane is doing too much damage?

    the dmg is not the problem, the AoE dmg proc'ing implosion is. As i said above, implosion should only proc from single target attacks/Dots, no AoE effects.

    Don't tell me than a passive AoE execute is "fine".....

    6% chance under 15% HP. I'd say average HP in cyro is 25k now a days so that 3750 HP. Were you going to live with only 3750 HP left? Maybe, but considering the 6% chance, you're crazy to think Hurricane is OP for implosion procs.

    Every week magicka users come up with another reason that stamina users are OP.

    ^ Stam sorc.
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    loki547 wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    ManDraKE wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    lol, hurricane is doing too much damage?

    the dmg is not the problem, the AoE dmg proc'ing implosion is. As i said above, implosion should only proc from single target attacks/Dots, no AoE effects.

    Don't tell me than a passive AoE execute is "fine".....

    6% chance under 15% HP. I'd say average HP in cyro is 25k now a days so that 3750 HP. Were you going to live with only 3750 HP left? Maybe, but considering the 6% chance, you're crazy to think Hurricane is OP for implosion procs.

    Every week magicka users come up with another reason that stamina users are OP.

    ^ Stam sorc.

    You act like that proves your point. Are you just totally oblivious to the people saying it's fine?
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  • Alucardo
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    loki547 wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    loki547 wrote: »
    Rohaus wrote: »
    Storm Calling
    • Hurricane (Lightning Form morph): Fixed an issue where this morph did not gain any benefits as it increased in rank. It now deals slightly more damage as it ranks up.

    155 replies, 31 Agrees for a Hurricane nerf: ZoS increases the damage of Hurricane.

    You say 155 replies, but a lot of those replies are general banter and quite a few saying it's fine the way it is. 31 agrees is not enough to have a skill kicked into the dirt. I don't say this very often because it's generally not called for, but if you are having trouble dealing with hurricane then you seriously need to l2p

    The only people saying it's fine are stam sorcs.

    I haven't played stam sorc since it went widespread. I still think Hurricane is fine as it is
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