I'm a little confused regarding dungeon levels - Help please?

Wolfhammer · October 2016

Hi all,
I tried a few runs on my level 10 Sorc through Banished Cells last night via the Random Normal tool. I noticed when we went in I got battle levelled which confused me slightly.
Anyway long story short we got roffle-stomped at the 3rd mini boss and couldn't get passed it after 5 or 6 tries.

I looked up a Banished cells guide and in the guides they are quoting bosses health at 8k give or take 1k.
Well that boss that casts the blue beam of death last night had just short of 1 mill health.

So my question is - How do I get into a level appropriate version of these dungeons? I take it random normal via the tool will lump me in with vet players raising the dungeon difficulty?
Is there a way for the tool to put people of similar level together for random normal, or will I have to queue for random normal with a pre formed group of low levels?

Any advice please would be gratefully received..
Cheers

Beardimus · October 2016

Hey there. So when you join as a group the dungeon scales to the group leader. So if you have 4 mates all L10 it will scale to a level you can all manage.

The random tool is designed to help solo players find a grip fast, and given the huge variation in levels it does it by scaling everyone up to CP160. so that's what you are seeing. BUT random dungeon finder does give you the cool XP bonus

Wolfhammer · October 2016

Beardimus wrote: »

Hey there. So when you join as a group the dungeon scales to the group leader. So if you have 4 mates all L10 it will scale to a level you can all manage.

The random tool is designed to help solo players find a grip fast, and given the huge variation in levels it does it by scaling everyone up to CP160. so that's what you are seeing. BUT random dungeon finder does give you the cool XP bonus

Thanks for your answer and yeah I was specifically doing the "random" thing for the bonus xp to get my level 10 up to 15 ASAP... It seems 3 or 4 of us last night were 10-14 but one person was a vet so we just didn't have the DPS or heals to get the bosses down..

So I cannot pre group with some fellow lowbies and then queue for a random normal? Seems like that would be the way to go?!

Sharee · October 2016

Wolfhammer wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Hey there. So when you join as a group the dungeon scales to the group leader. So if you have 4 mates all L10 it will scale to a level you can all manage.

The random tool is designed to help solo players find a grip fast, and given the huge variation in levels it does it by scaling everyone up to CP160. so that's what you are seeing. BUT random dungeon finder does give you the cool XP bonus

Thanks for your answer and yeah I was specifically doing the "random" thing for the bonus xp to get my level 10 up to 15 ASAP... It seems 3 or 4 of us last night were 10-14 but one person was a vet so we just didn't have the DPS or heals to get the bosses down..

So I cannot pre group with some fellow lowbies and then queue for a random normal? Seems like that would be the way to go?!

You should always have enough DPS/heals to complete a dungeon through the group finder. That you are low level should not matter, because the battle leveling will compensate by bringing your stats up. It is just a matter of knowing the mechanics and what to do. One of the few times i used the group finder(on a vet level DK tank), our healer was only level 10 and we completed imperial prison even(which is one of the harder dungeons).

Wolfhammer · October 2016

Sharee wrote: »

Wolfhammer wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Hey there. So when you join as a group the dungeon scales to the group leader. So if you have 4 mates all L10 it will scale to a level you can all manage.

The random tool is designed to help solo players find a grip fast, and given the huge variation in levels it does it by scaling everyone up to CP160. so that's what you are seeing. BUT random dungeon finder does give you the cool XP bonus

Thanks for your answer and yeah I was specifically doing the "random" thing for the bonus xp to get my level 10 up to 15 ASAP... It seems 3 or 4 of us last night were 10-14 but one person was a vet so we just didn't have the DPS or heals to get the bosses down..

So I cannot pre group with some fellow lowbies and then queue for a random normal? Seems like that would be the way to go?!

You should always have enough DPS/heals to complete a dungeon through the group finder. That you are low level should not matter, because the battle leveling will compensate by bringing your stats up. It is just a matter of knowing the mechanics and what to do. One of the few times i used the group finder(on a vet level DK tank), our healer was only level 10 and we completed imperial prison even(which is one of the harder dungeons).

Well we didn't for some reason... 1st and second mini bosses took easily 10 minutes to burn down.. Being one shot by some abilities certainly didn't help....lol

Sharee · October 2016

Wolfhammer wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Wolfhammer wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Hey there. So when you join as a group the dungeon scales to the group leader. So if you have 4 mates all L10 it will scale to a level you can all manage.

The random tool is designed to help solo players find a grip fast, and given the huge variation in levels it does it by scaling everyone up to CP160. so that's what you are seeing. BUT random dungeon finder does give you the cool XP bonus

Thanks for your answer and yeah I was specifically doing the "random" thing for the bonus xp to get my level 10 up to 15 ASAP... It seems 3 or 4 of us last night were 10-14 but one person was a vet so we just didn't have the DPS or heals to get the bosses down..

So I cannot pre group with some fellow lowbies and then queue for a random normal? Seems like that would be the way to go?!

You should always have enough DPS/heals to complete a dungeon through the group finder. That you are low level should not matter, because the battle leveling will compensate by bringing your stats up. It is just a matter of knowing the mechanics and what to do. One of the few times i used the group finder(on a vet level DK tank), our healer was only level 10 and we completed imperial prison even(which is one of the harder dungeons).

Well we didn't for some reason... 1st and second mini bosses took easily 10 minutes to burn down.. Being one shot by some abilities certainly didn't help....lol

It is important to know how the bosses work. When you encounter an oneshot ability, there is usually some trick to it.

For example, the clannfear boss in that dungeon has an attack where he rushes a random party member, knocks him down(cannot be broken out of), then does an attack that oneshots the victim before he can get up. The trick is that the oneshot-attack has a short cast time and can be interrupted. So the tank needs to rush the boss and bash him before he can kill the part member lying on his back.

Also, having at least somewhat good equipment helps. The battle-level system does take into accout what you are wearing. If you didn't already, take up crafting and make yourself a suit of armor. it does not have to be super good, simple white stuff already makes a lot of difference. There are even sets you can craft at low levels (that require only two traits researched).

Wolfhammer · October 2016

So is any of the above going to be affected by 1Tam due tomorrow for PC??

Sharee · October 2016

Wolfhammer wrote: »

So is any of the above going to be affected by 1Tam due tomorrow for PC??

Not really. It will just become less confusing since all mobs will be CP level 160, in and out of dungeons(actually their level won;t be even shown anymore since its pointless ), and you will be battle leveled to CP150 all the time, not just while grouped with a high level player.