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IC: Are you really unifying all the trophies? Here's another suggestion.
Alucardo
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If so, please don't. Instead, make the rewards for crappy trophy vaults more satisfying. Add pieces of new sets in there. Good sets. People are only going to open the agility/willpower ring vaults anyway, and the other vaults will go unused as usual.
Instead of being lazy, please look at the bigger picture. Magicka needs some better sets, so let's look at some options eh?
Magical Anomaly
(2 items) Max magicka
(3 items) Max magicka
(4 items) Spell damage
(5 items) Increase your magic, flame, shock, ice damage by X damage (something on par with Automaton)
Xivkyn Wrath
(2 items) Spell damage
(3 items) Spell critical
(4 items) Magicka recovery
(5 items) 10% when damaged to surround your body in electricity, dealing a burst of X shock damage. At the same time, you place down a disc of ice that deals X damage per second.
Lesser Daedra in Imperial City will become neutral to you while wearing this guise, but will still attack you if provoked.
Hunger
(2 items) Maximum health
(3 items) Maximum magicka
(4 items) Spell damage
(5 items) 6% when damaged to create 3 floating orbs around your body, increasing your spell and physical resistance by X. Targets around you are stunned, and once the stun is broken you heal for X health and regain Y magicka based on the number of enemies affected.
Just stick random purple pieces of each set in each trophy vault. You get a 100% chance of obtaining at least 1 item, with a smaller chance of getting 2 pieces. The jewellery, weapons and gear are spread out between different vaults to keep them all valuable.
These are just some example sets, but you get the idea.
Instead of being lazy, please look at the bigger picture. Magicka needs some better sets, so let's look at some options eh?
Magical Anomaly
(2 items) Max magicka
(3 items) Max magicka
(4 items) Spell damage
(5 items) Increase your magic, flame, shock, ice damage by X damage (something on par with Automaton)
Xivkyn Wrath
(2 items) Spell damage
(3 items) Spell critical
(4 items) Magicka recovery
(5 items) 10% when damaged to surround your body in electricity, dealing a burst of X shock damage. At the same time, you place down a disc of ice that deals X damage per second.
Lesser Daedra in Imperial City will become neutral to you while wearing this guise, but will still attack you if provoked.
Hunger
(2 items) Maximum health
(3 items) Maximum magicka
(4 items) Spell damage
(5 items) 6% when damaged to create 3 floating orbs around your body, increasing your spell and physical resistance by X. Targets around you are stunned, and once the stun is broken you heal for X health and regain Y magicka based on the number of enemies affected.
Just stick random purple pieces of each set in each trophy vault. You get a 100% chance of obtaining at least 1 item, with a smaller chance of getting 2 pieces. The jewellery, weapons and gear are spread out between different vaults to keep them all valuable.
These are just some example sets, but you get the idea.
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes trophies are being merged. Hence why they are all 5 times the price now.
Question is though. If they make only 3 sets drop in icp and wgt will only those sets now drop in thier respective chests? Or are they leaving far easier farmable stuff in the chests?PC Master Race
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AmberLaTerra✭✭✭✭Why only magicka based sets for your new set ideas? wouldn't balancing it 4 sets 2 Mag 2 stam be more fitting or perhaps 3 of each leaving one vault for endurance/willpower/agility and the other 3 each having 2 of the new 6 sets with random chance to get stam or magicka piece?PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »Yes trophies are being merged. Hence why they are all 5 times the price now.
Question is though. If they make only 3 sets drop in icp and wgt will only those sets now drop in thier respective chests? Or are they leaving far easier farmable stuff in the chests?
How much are they going for now? I used to sell teeth for 54k and shards for 14k. To be honest I only just found out, so I was still selling the legionnaire and planar ones for like 2k per 60.. d'oh
My idea was to pick maybe 2 of those sets and add them in the endurance vaults - the ones people rarely use. That way, ALL of the vaults will become valuable, not just agility and willpower.
Plus it wouldn't hurt to have IC offer a little something extra.0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AmberLaTerra wrote: »Why only magicka based sets for your new set ideas? wouldn't balancing it 4 sets 2 Mag 2 stam be more fitting or perhaps 3 of each leaving one vault for endurance/willpower/agility and the other 3 each having 2 of the new 6 sets with random chance to get stam or magicka piece?
Sure. I mean, they were just example sets. The main idea is to add some new gear to the vaults to make IC a little more interesting and profitable.0 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭new sets are always super-welcome!!!
but making the price of the trophies drop is awesome!! finally I can get my agility and willpower stuff
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✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »Yes trophies are being merged. Hence why they are all 5 times the price now.
Question is though. If they make only 3 sets drop in icp and wgt will only those sets now drop in thier respective chests? Or are they leaving far easier farmable stuff in the chests?
How much are they going for now? I used to sell teeth for 54k and shards for 14k. To be honest I only just found out, so I was still selling the legionnaire and planar ones for like 2k per 60.. d'oh
My idea was to pick maybe 2 of those sets and add them in the endurance vaults - the ones people rarely use. That way, ALL of the vaults will become valuable, not just agility and willpower.
Plus it wouldn't hurt to have IC offer a little something extra.
Teeth are still expensive. For me over 60k a stack...despite robust rings going for 90k now I'd rather go with them.
But planar armor and mark of the Legion used to be...well I bought 230 stacks and spent no more than 6k a stack..no they are all at least 15+k. That's expensive business. 1 icp chest becomes 30k to open... luckily I got in when I did.
Stonefalls treasure maps are expensive now too. 10k a pop.PC Master Race
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Master Angler
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Tamriel Hero
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There's enough grinding in this game. I can do without some grinds being favored over others. Takes way too long to farm Monstrous Teeth for Agility jewelry compared to the other trophies such as Bone Shards for Willpower.
I like your suggestion to add different gear, but the homogenization of IC trophies should stay. It gives players reasonable choices.Edited by Morbash on October 3, 2016 8:17AM"War doesn't build character; it reveals it."0 -
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There's enough grinding in this game. I can do without some grinds being favored over others. Takes way too long to farm Monstrous Teeth for Agility jewelry compared to the other trophies such as Bone Shards for Willpower.
I like your suggestion to add different gear, but the homogenization of IC trophies should stay. It gives players reasonable choices.
See, that's where I'm a bit different. I liked the fact that the teeth were harder to grind, yet the payoff was larger. The only thing I didn't like was that there was no point grinding any other trophies because they were useless and not profitable one bit. That was my only gripe. I respect people have different opinions however.0 -
kuro-dono✭✭✭✭finally my 10000 different trophy piece from dungeons and the ic itself finds possibly some use?0
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
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There's enough grinding in this game. I can do without some grinds being favored over others. Takes way too long to farm Monstrous Teeth for Agility jewelry compared to the other trophies such as Bone Shards for Willpower.
I like your suggestion to add different gear, but the homogenization of IC trophies should stay.
I don't think they ever intended them on being rarer. They should have added teeth to harvesters and spiders too. They only stayed expensive imo as the drop rate was bugged once upon a time so prices were naturally higher. Now I can farm teeth as quick as any other trophy. Just circle the daedroth spawn district and you'll rake them in now. Farming twilight's was too long.PC Master Race
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8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
Master Angler
Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
Tamriel Hero
Grand Overlord
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✭✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »
There's enough grinding in this game. I can do without some grinds being favored over others. Takes way too long to farm Monstrous Teeth for Agility jewelry compared to the other trophies such as Bone Shards for Willpower.
I like your suggestion to add different gear, but the homogenization of IC trophies should stay.
I don't think they ever intended them on being rarer. They should have added teeth to harvesters and spiders too. They only stayed expensive imo as the drop rate was bugged once upon a time so prices were naturally higher. Now I can farm teeth as quick as any other trophy. Just circle the daedroth spawn district and you'll rake them in now. Farming twilight's was too long.
Yeah, adding the teeth and claws to more mobs would have been fine too. It is useful that the Temple and Aboretum are right next to each other (both drop nice amounts of teeth), so you can just circle between the two.
Ended up grinding about 80 of them before work this morning just in the Temple alone between waiting for the boss to respawn. Very productive morning =D
I like the fact different trophies yielded different rewards. I really didn't want to see that aspect removed.0 -
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✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »
There's enough grinding in this game. I can do without some grinds being favored over others. Takes way too long to farm Monstrous Teeth for Agility jewelry compared to the other trophies such as Bone Shards for Willpower.
I like your suggestion to add different gear, but the homogenization of IC trophies should stay.
I don't think they ever intended them on being rarer. They should have added teeth to harvesters and spiders too. They only stayed expensive imo as the drop rate was bugged once upon a time so prices were naturally higher. Now I can farm teeth as quick as any other trophy. Just circle the daedroth spawn district and you'll rake them in now. Farming twilight's was too long.
Yeah, adding the teeth and claws to more mobs would have been fine too. It is useful that the Temple and Aboretum are right next to each other (both drop nice amounts of teeth), so you can just circle between the two.
Ended up grinding about 80 of them before work this morning just in the Temple alone between waiting for the boss to respawn. Very productive morning =D
I like the fact different trophies yielded different rewards. I really didn't want to see that aspect removed.
Yeah but remember these rings will be a face roll to get anyway. Do a random dungeon, vet banished cells and you've got a 1 in 6 chance of a robust agility ring in 12 mins...going to be worthless in the next update. It's been fun though. 13 months of farming come to an end.PC Master Race
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Master Angler
Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
Tamriel Hero
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✭✭✭I would be all for them adding new sets to the IC vaults but I'd honestly KILL for some interesting 3 piece sets, add more variety to the game, or even they just revamped those old 3 piece sets you could get from dungeons, like Relics of the Physician and such and put them in the vaults.Argonian forever0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Silver_Strider wrote: »I would be all for them adding new sets to the IC vaults but I'd honestly KILL for some interesting 3 piece sets, add more variety to the game, or even they just revamped those old 3 piece sets you could get from dungeons, like Relics of the Physician and such and put them in the vaults.
True. There's a few 3 pc sets in PVP containers, but for the most part they are just poop, which is why agility and willpower was always the go-to 3 item set.
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Morbash✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »
There's enough grinding in this game. I can do without some grinds being favored over others. Takes way too long to farm Monstrous Teeth for Agility jewelry compared to the other trophies such as Bone Shards for Willpower.
I like your suggestion to add different gear, but the homogenization of IC trophies should stay.
I don't think they ever intended them on being rarer. They should have added teeth to harvesters and spiders too. They only stayed expensive imo as the drop rate was bugged once upon a time so prices were naturally higher. Now I can farm teeth as quick as any other trophy. Just circle the daedroth spawn district and you'll rake them in now. Farming twilight's was too long.
Still not nearly as fast as farming for bone shards. There's a reason why Agility rings are 3x more expensive than Willpower.
Also, there's far more efficient money making methods out there. There's really no need to artificially restrict the supply of Agility jewelry just to inflate the prices. I simply don't see the need to place that restriction on a set that's core to a vast majority of stamina builds.
I get yours and Alucardo's frustrations, especially if your enjoyment comes from farming for this specific set. I wouldn't want to see my favorite farm get nerfed either. But those sorts of restrictions should be reserved for niche gear, not for gear that serves as a foundation for nearly every stamina build out there.
Just my two cents.Edited by Morbash on October 3, 2016 11:50AM"War doesn't build character; it reveals it."0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭AmberLaTerra wrote: »Why only magicka based sets for your new set ideas? wouldn't balancing it 4 sets 2 Mag 2 stam be more fitting or perhaps 3 of each leaving one vault for endurance/willpower/agility and the other 3 each having 2 of the new 6 sets with random chance to get stam or magicka piece?
I would not be concerned about the sets he is suggesting. What is being implemented is a good idea. Unsure why OP does not like it the key unification and the post is really about something that will not be implemented.
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »AmberLaTerra wrote: »Why only magicka based sets for your new set ideas? wouldn't balancing it 4 sets 2 Mag 2 stam be more fitting or perhaps 3 of each leaving one vault for endurance/willpower/agility and the other 3 each having 2 of the new 6 sets with random chance to get stam or magicka piece?
I would not be concerned about the sets he is suggesting. What is being implemented is a good idea. Unsure why OP does not like it the key unification and the post is really about something that will not be implemented.
I understand why people like the idea of merging, but as I said, opinions differ. Instead of unification I just think they should add new drops to the vaults instead, and possibly make grinding the teeth and claws a little easier.
I really enjoyed the different trophy, different loot aspect. But that's just me.0 -
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✭✭So at this point would it be more worth it to sell all my trophies? I have a bunch I was going to use to try for a robust agility ring, but I wonder if it would be better to get rid of them.2013
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So at this point would it be more worth it to sell all my trophies? I have a bunch I was going to use to try for a robust agility ring, but I wonder if it would be better to get rid of them.
With all of the trophies opening the same vaults I can't imagine teeth will be selling for 60k any more. I have a feeling the prices are going to be lower, so I've been pawning the teeth off and saving the rest until we know the average price.0
