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[Video] Eric, Rich please watch. Magicka Templar is Broken.

  • WillhelmBlack
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    I just see a tank not doing any dps just spamming shards and debuffing so Nerf heavy armor?

    A tank with 33K magicka and 3000+ spell power. I'm not doing much damage to their tank, no. The DPS wouldn't come near me because they would have certainly died.

    I have other videos of me killing plenty of groups of players, they aren't a better display of how OP magicka Templar is though. To say I have no damage would just be a lie.
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    Solariken wrote: »
    Those EP are obviously potatoes and probably would have wiped on the NPC guards regardless. Move along everyone, nothing to see here but blatant propaganda.

    On my magplar I can face tank zergs of potatoes all day long and slowly pick off the weak ones until I am last man standing, but there are lots of great players of all classes that can kill me 1v1. This video could just as easily have been you as a sorc, Dk, or Nb and it would have looked the same. You disappoint me @WillhelmBlack :(

    They weren't potatoes at all, they would have died if they were.

    Only a DK could have taken that amount of damage but believe me, it would have dished out less damage.
    Edited by WillhelmBlack on October 2, 2016 4:33PM
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    susmitds wrote: »
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    "Mageplars OP, plz fix."

    So, because someone is lame enough to run a zerg tanking build and do next to no damage to the X amount of players they are fighting; it's time to call for a nerf of ALL templars? People who only PvP always have the most ridiculous complaints lol.

    You can see them fight 20 people at once with around 25k HP and not die while killing at least 5. It's broken how Templars can go from 5% HP to 100% HP without any sustain issues what so ever. Add Bats and Mist Form to it and you get a full on killing tank.

    Am I the only person who finds Vampire Templar ironic and wrong? I really wish the Aedric element of the class were played up a bit more. Skills like Purge, Circle of Protection, Barrier, etc all feel like Templar themed skills as well (there are other Out of Class skills that seem like other classes abilities). The point here is that I really wish there were a Guild or Skill line that allowed the player to get a boost for not being a monster, just so we didn't feel stupid in pvp for not picking up vampire. I'm not sure how I held out for so many years in pvp NOT using Vampire, particularly in the era of BatSwarm DK's. The truth is I expected them to fix it, but then they didn't. I like Vampire as it stands, but they need to create a skill line alternative. It shouldn't be Monsters online.
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  • Master_Kas
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    Mind sharing the song? :3

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  • Van_0S
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Mind sharing the song? :3

    Magplar OP.

    Yep! Kasblade OPera :p
  • Pandorii
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    Nerf tank builds in PvP. They should be as squishy as DPS and with way less damage. /sarcasm
  • Van_0S
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    Pandorii wrote: »
    Nerf tank builds in PvP. They should be as squishy as DPS and with way less damage. /sarcasm

    Nope! Make then tanky as hell but zero damage.
    They get AP based on amount of dmg they can take with all 7 heavy armour equipped.
    ~simple :#
  • Waffennacht
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    What do I see?

    I see a Temp facing multiple 531s at once and doing very well. Even with inexperienced players (though I minda doubt they're that bad at 531) the sheer volume from 3 attackers has got to be massive.

    Personally I think it was impressive.

    I would also like to point out that @WillhelmBlack is an experienced player and not one to just throw out "nerf this nerf that..." kind of stuff. Im going to listen to him a bit more than some players.
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  • aidenmoore
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    From my understanding after reading bunch of forum topics are people should play a DPS and at least able to die in 5 seconds if they survive, the whole class and heavy armor needs a nerf.
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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    As I mostly main a Magicka Sorc I say NO!

    Magicka Templar is the only magic spec that can even remotely compare with Stam.

    I'm all about merging Templars, AFTER they tone down Stam big time...until then magplars is the only competive magic spec in pvp right now sadly. I still play Sorc because I'm stubborn but I'm woefully disadvantaged against all Stam specs and magic Templar is better...at least one magic spec can compete with Stam....
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  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    Sorry for the spelling dumb phone thinks it knows better then me...POS apple lol
    Edited by RinaldoGandolphi on October 2, 2016 6:36PM
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  • Dracane
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    This video doesn't even come close, to what Templars are capable of.
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  • maxjapank
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    Such a sad thread. Even sadder that the OP only has one agree.
  • Destyran
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    This looks like a one off one time thing. Thise players are idiots. So make like 10 more vids or stop complaining. Stam sorc is the banes of tenplars with light attack ransack bash
  • SkylarkX
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    All I saw was two templars healbotting through anywhere between 1 and 5 EP (only 3 of which were actual dps) until the end where they died, with neither templar getting any kills..

    Could've just as easily been 2 DKs tanking, 2 NBs stealthing/dodging, 2 Sorcs streaking/shielding.. except those classes would've killed something.




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  • Master_Kas
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    Van_0S wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Mind sharing the song? :3

    Magplar OP.

    Yep! Kasblade OPera :p

    Nah man the bomberlife has been hard since proxy nerf + heavy armor meta :neutral: xD
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  • DocFrost72
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    Gotta ask...when was this supposed to be broken? Troll-y sure, but just because you are tough doesn't make you a great OP build. You didn't kill a single person, unless I missed it. You got some kill player progress from the two upstairs, BOLd until you had no magic, then got killed.

    I'm not defending templars, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm actually genuinely confused. Tag me and tell me what I missed?
  • Alucardo
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    Bro EP/EU is full of perma root heavy armor mDKs - of course they were going to do no damage to a magplar. Let's be honest here, that was Cigany's group you were fighting. It's like showing a video of a magicka sorc killing 15 mudcrabs on the beach and saying "nerf sorc"
  • FloppyTouch
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    This vid is amazing it shows just how op Stam class are! Did you see near end of video every dark flare was missed and he did not dodge roll lol.

    But really ur dps did nothing you tanked other guys did the damage nothing in this video showed magplar being op.

    Or is this a troll post I'm just not sure with you guys and girls anymore :/
    Edited by FloppyTouch on October 3, 2016 3:02AM
  • Alucardo
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    This vid is amazing it shows just how op Stam class are! Did you see near end of video every dark flare was missed and he did not dodge roll lol.

    But really ur dps did nothing you tanked other guys did the damage nothing in this video showed magplar being op.

    Or is this a troll post I'm just not sure with you guys and girls anymore :/

    The only thing I thought was really op was the templar resurrection time with class passives, kagrenacs and alliance support passives
  • donJay
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    Your dmg was kind of lame. Anyone can make a tanky Templar. It's pretty easy and 90% of Templars are low dmg tanks like this one. Nothing op in this video.
    Edited by donJay on October 3, 2016 3:39AM
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    So I guess the majority of people here disagree with me then and there's nothing broken in this video. Having Major Mending 100% of the time isn't broken?

    I guess I'm gonna go spec him back to PvP and make some decent potions then.

    Very insightful, thank you.

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  • DHale
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    Magic Templar despite its good things can't compete with any stamina build in any thing surviving will net you zero AP.
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    DHale wrote: »
    Magic Templar despite its good things can't compete with any stamina build in any thing surviving will net you zero AP.

    Radiant Destruction melts most stamina builds, surviving nets you literally thousands of AP in defence ticks. Are you just making that up?
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  • DHale
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    I get up to 7 times the ap (average of four times) on my stam sorc and stam DK then I do on my Magplar. Now obviously there is some variability but I tracked this over several 30 day capaigns. A magplar is fine in groups but you try radianting stam builds when you are alone you are going to get obliterated. I have fun just bashing magplars and I run the interrupt poison arrow instead of poison injection. Sweeps javelin do little damage only radiant does actual damage. Dark flare misses a lot and is hard to pull off in lag aside from its long cast time well beyond the cast time tooltip.
    Edited by DHale on October 3, 2016 5:53AM
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  • Anti_Virus
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    As I mostly main a Magicka Sorc I say NO!

    Magicka Templar is the only magic spec that can even remotely compare with Stam.

    I'm all about merging Templars, AFTER they tone down Stam big time...until then magplars is the only competive magic spec in pvp right now sadly. I still play Sorc because I'm stubborn but I'm woefully disadvantaged against all Stam specs and magic Templar is better...at least one magic spec can compete with Stam....

    I don't see how you are at a disadvantage, there are plenty of potent mSorcs in PVP that have whopped my a$$.
    Edited by Anti_Virus on October 3, 2016 6:11AM
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  • a1i3nz
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    I'm not sure I see an issue in this video. What I see is 2 experienced PVPers fighting against 4-6 very inexperienced players for most of the fight. When they were fighting 10-20 at the end they died very quickly. If their opponents were CCing both of them every 7 seconds and actually concentrating their DPS on one of them at a time I think the fight would have not lasted long.

    I'm not a very active PVP player. I might have gained 600k AP over the last few years. But even I've managed to win some 1v2 and 1v3 fights against inexperienced players. I'd imagine if I was actually good at PVP I could manage more like what I've seen people do in Cyrodiil.

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  • WillhelmBlack
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    Maybe I've been playing too long then, this is what emperors were like for the majority of time this game was out.
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  • Alucardo
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    Maybe I've been playing too long then, this is what emperors were like for the majority of time this game was out.

    As I said before, most of the people in your video that you were fighting were heavy armor DKs doing little to no damage. If you were fighting a group of procblades and stam sorcs throwing down traps and slicing you with dawnbreaker, you would have been complaining about stamina imbalance like everyone else.
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    I love RD. Please do not nerf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-xoIkZCBFg
    Edited by Toast_STS on October 3, 2016 7:43AM
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