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Devs get rid of the damage portion of Hurricane

loki547
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Get rid of the damage portion of Hurricane and it's balanced.

I'm fine with the armor/spell resist buff and the minor expedition. Right now it's way too powerful and it has PvP has turned into Stam Sorcs Online. In it's current state it offers very very good large radius aoe DoT damage and combined with Power Surge basically makes Stam Sorcs almost invincible and able to deal high amounts of AOE and single target damage (see Kodi's video as an example). It also breaks people out of stealth making skills like Magelight and Revealing Flare utterly useless. Add Max CP and combine it with a bunch of other DOT's that double dip into Mighty and Thaumaturge and damage gets even more ridiculous/over the top. It's currently killing any and all build diversity in PvP. @Wrobel @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno
Edited by loki547 on October 1, 2016 7:38PM
  • HoloYoitsu
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    I don't see the problem
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  • BigBragg
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    So what it should be renamed to Fluffy Cotton Candy Cloud?
  • Ragnaroek93
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    Stamsorc doesn't have Major Mending or a purge. There are many setups in this game which are stronger than stamsorc in my opinion and this is the view of a Nightblade that gets hardcountered by hurricane lol.

    Fasalla hardcounters Hurricane btw.
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  • Lucky28
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    Implosion procs way to much with Hurricane. that's the issue with the skill more so than Damage. Implosions needs to be brought down to proc at the same rate as Disintegrate.

    After that. hurricane will be fine.
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  • loki547
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    Stamsorc doesn't have Major Mending or a purge.

    Heavy Armor, Efficient Purge, Vitality Pots
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Delay the damage portion to ebery 2 seconds. Then nightblades have some thing to work with.

    I think the radius is insane personally.
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  • olsborg
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    loki547 wrote: »
    Get rid of the damage portion of Hurricane and it's balanced.

    I'm fine with the armor/spell resist buff and the minor expedition. Right now it's way too powerful and it has PvP has turned into Stam Sorcs Online. In it's current state it offers very very good large radius aoe DoT damage and combined with Power Surge basically makes Stam Sorcs almost invincible and able to deal high amounts of AOE and single target damage (see Kodi's video as an example). It also breaks people out of stealth making skills like Magelight and Revealing Flare utterly useless. Add Max CP and combine it with a bunch of other DOT's that double dip into Mighty and Thaumaturge and damage gets even more ridiculous/over the top. It's currently killing any and all build diversity in PvP. @Wrobel @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Gotta agree here. Cyro is stamsorc online atm. Everytime ZOS @Wrobel buffs or nerfs something, they overdo it by a mile.

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  • Lord_Hev
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    The magic morph should be a damn "hurricane." The imbalance in both logic and gameplay is strong. It really is sickening that -the- magic class centered around the arcane is having everything taken from them and given to the stamina variant. It boggles my mind.
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  • bitaken
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    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    The magic morph should be a damn "hurricane." The imbalance in both logic and gameplay is strong. It really is sickening that -the- magic class centered around the arcane is having everything taken from them and given to the stamina variant. It boggles my mind.

    +1

    Let's not even go into the glass cannon aspect of the magicka variant and all the hard counters stam builds have for the magicka sorc's required perfectly timed burst combos.
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  • LeifErickson
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    I was dueling a friend who is a stam sorc and I feared him when I was at about half health or so. He didn't have enough stam to break free but he had hurricane up and that hitting me procced velidreth and I got to 5% health all while my friend was sitting there feared waiting for more stam to break free. If implosion would have procced I would have died. Me running him out of stam almost got me killed because the game played for him. This game is balanced.
  • Darnathian
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    So funny. Look how quiet unbiased Fengrush is now
  • Cathexis
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    Conversation already exists here https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3403493/#Comment_3403493

    And as has already been pointed out, its hardly unfair when yoh consider stam sorcs have significantly fewer standardized class buffs including no minor brutality, major/minor berserk, major/minor mending, major/minor vitality, or major/minor protection
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  • X3ina
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    LOL wut???
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    When stam sorcs finally get a darn buff and are used in PVP...
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  • Nirnrotten
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    Another Nerf Sorc thread? Magicka died, let this one live!
  • Cathexis
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    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    The magic morph should be a damn "hurricane." The imbalance in both logic and gameplay is strong. It really is sickening that -the- magic class centered around the arcane is having everything taken from them and given to the stamina variant. It boggles my mind.

    There was a magic centered class?? Its funny I didnt realize magicka was the only thing you could use on a sorc, or that that was the only way anyone wants to play them. In fact, its interesting that when we got a buff, there was a massive surge in stam sorcs even though they are hardly over the top OP.
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  • Calboy
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    ITT. A bunch of sour magicka sorcs.
  • Cathexis
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    loki547 wrote: »
    Stamsorc doesn't have Major Mending or a purge.

    Heavy Armor, Efficient Purge, Vitality Pots

    So pigeon holed into an armor spec, adding another skill to bars we already dont have enough slots for, and insanely expensive pots that are difficult to farm for?

    You may as well just reroll a templar is really what you are trying to say with that reply.
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  • zuto40
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    Its really fun when you get killed by implosion while behind them :neutral:
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    There was a time when FENGRUSH was the only stam sorc in existence and he was a mighty warrior carving himself a name in the annals of time. He did it all without this current bag of tricks. Now the aedra (ZOS), gently in their hands cupped the mystic sands, and with a gentle puffy cheeks blow, spread these grains of sand sending new updates into mundus. And now everyone, their grandmother, and their pet goldfish is a stam sorc. Just ask the current king of the Meta Merry-Go-Round, Dubzog (since Sribes' brutal retirement at the hands of the aedra) and his assorted group of misfit buddies.

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    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on October 5, 2016 12:52PM
  • Lord_Hev
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    Lord_Hev wrote: »
    The magic morph should be a damn "hurricane." The imbalance in both logic and gameplay is strong. It really is sickening that -the- magic class centered around the arcane is having everything taken from them and given to the stamina variant. It boggles my mind.

    There was a magic centered class?? Its funny I didnt realize magicka was the only thing you could use on a sorc, or that that was the only way anyone wants to play them. In fact, its interesting that when we got a buff, there was a massive surge in stam sorcs even though they are hardly over the top OP.


    Yes, there was. It's even in the class description.
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  • Mojmir
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    Ffs,no more nerfs
  • Sigma957
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    Stam sorcs finally get a useful skill and now there are calls to get it nerfed,, un********believable :neutral:
  • BruhItsOver9000
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    I don't care abot it doing damage, i can out heal it with vigor. The only problem i have with hurricane is the huge radius and cloak becomes useless when you're fighting a stam sorc, imo it should not break cloak or break you out from stealth.
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  • Alucardo
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    BigBragg wrote: »
    So what it should be renamed to Fluffy Cotton Candy Cloud?

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  • TBois
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    Tone down implosion and it would be fine. It is the only useful stam skill a stam sorc has.
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  • RadioheadSh0t
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    I mean hey, if people can't whine about Mag Sorc anymore might as well whine about Stam Sorc.

    The issue here is more the Magicka/stamina divide more than anything with Stam Sorc.
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  • Lord_Hev
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    I mean hey, if people can't whine about Mag Sorc anymore might as well whine about Stam Sorc.

    The issue here is more the Magicka/stamina divide more than anything with Stam Sorc.


    No, it's stam sorc.


    Magic sorc got overly punished for mobility, all the while just giving it all back to Stam sorc. Completely ridiculous.
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  • PrinceFabious
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    I play with Fasalas and I have a 99%(Kodi irs the 1, Rip) win rate againts other stam sorcs. They have simple but overlooked counters.
  • zuto40
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    cut the damage of implosion in half and it'd be fine honestly
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