Open world PvP. It is the only thing that makes sense.

What is your question?

edit: Just to clarify. What's "Agree" and "Disagree" supposed to mean?

Are you asking if we agree with One Tamriel as it is, or if we agree with your statement that it doesn't make sense and needs to be changed?

cynaes wrote: »

What is your question?

edit: Just to clarify. What's "Agree" and "Disagree" supposed to mean?

Faction barrier removal not the faction itself since we still maintain faction name right? but the difference is that we can see other faction(faction barrier) in one tamriel.

Egonieser wrote: »

I would personally prefer if they just left it all as it is, but just make base zones scale up.
I really don't know how will they justify working together with other faction members when you already pledged your loyalty to one faction, I really don't. Are they reworking all the quest lines for all factions to make up for this change? How will it work? If a new player wanted to make sense of it all - it wouldn't make any, it would be just a mish-mash of all sorts of quests all over the place with no beggining or end.

Cadwells silver/gold (when it was still only unlockable by doing main quest) kind of made sense story-wise, it was explained well and a reason for you going to the enemy zones - as you are technically not going there in the flesh but sort of reliving the buildup from your enemy's point of view.
Then they removed the main story/coldharbour requirement which made things more chaotic and made much less sense from a continuity and story point of view, but with One Tamriel it's going to be a total disaster - unless they rework all the faction quest chains - none of it, any of it will make any sense anymore.

Those who play on PTS - what is it like, have they changed the quests or not? I really am curious.

They haven't changed the quests, but I don't think it will be a problem for new players.

In my experience new players, especially those who care about the story, tend to simply follow the quests through the zones instead of skipping all over the map picking up quests at random. It's quite common to see newbies on a forum saying they're stuck and don't know where to go next because they've run out of quests or their last major quest didn't lead to a new one and they're not sure what order to do the new ones in.

Occasionally I've seen someone saying they ended up on a totally different map and now they're not sure how to get back to continue the story and they're afraid to start anything where they are because it will mess things up.

I don't think I've ever seen someone say they deliberately travelled to the other side of the world, picked up a quest totally unrelated to the ones they were doing and now they're confused because it doesn't fit into the same narrative.

And in this case it's not like you can end up in another factions zone by accident (unless you teleport to a friend who is there). They haven't added quests which will send you off to fight for the enemy so the only way to do it is to go to a wayshrine, open the map, choose a shrine in a totally different location and confirm you want to travel to it. And if you do that you should expect that quests you find there are going to be unrelated.

Egonieser wrote: »

I would personally prefer if they just left it all as it is, but just make base zones scale up.
I really don't know how will they justify working together with other faction members when you already pledged your loyalty to one faction, I really don't. Are they reworking all the quest lines for all factions to make up for this change? How will it work? If a new player wanted to make sense of it all - it wouldn't make any, it would be just a mish-mash of all sorts of quests all over the place with no beggining or end.

Cadwells silver/gold (when it was still only unlockable by doing main quest) kind of made sense story-wise, it was explained well and a reason for you going to the enemy zones - as you are technically not going there in the flesh but sort of reliving the buildup from your enemy's point of view.
Then they removed the main story/coldharbour requirement which made things more chaotic and made much less sense from a continuity and story point of view, but with One Tamriel it's going to be a total disaster - unless they rework all the faction quest chains - none of it, any of it will make any sense anymore.

Those who play on PTS - what is it like, have they changed the quests or not? I really am curious.

This.

I'm pretty cool with faction removal so we can see more people but i'm really not into hey fella formerly arch enemies have a nice day something like that but oh well looks like

It's business
-zos

BigBragg wrote: »

People travel the globe. Some to areas that are overcome by war, like westerner in Afghanistan. Other times just when political tensions are high, like Americans in Russia during the Cold War. Not everyone in a culture participates in the wars they fight. I really don't understand why people are having such a hard time with this from a lore aspect. The fighting and war is in Cyrodiil, not the entire continent of Tamriel. There are already cross faction NPC groups throughout the three realms.

NPC's don't fight in Cyrodiil, we are. If only you've seen the horrors...

I still haven't a clue what we're being asked to agree or disagree with.

Tandor wrote: »

I still haven't a clue what we're being asked to agree or disagree with.

I think they want open world PvP in the PvE zones, above and beyond dueling. That's why I voted "disagree."

Tandor wrote: »

I still haven't a clue what we're being asked to agree or disagree with.

The post is confusing to say the least but I think the op is wanting some form of open world pvp since one Tamriel is coming and the factions are supposed to be at war.

If this is what they mean then I strongly disagree.

Thanks variously for the clarification of the poll. It wasn't a third answer that was needed, but a question.

To talk of adding PvP to PvE is a contradiction in terms, they're really quite separate and should be kept so. While I don't begin to understand how the removal of alliance restrictions can possibly make sense with players undertaking quests for all of the alliances regardless of their alliance of origin, doing a PvE quest for an alliance one minute then attacking players of that same alliance in the same area the next minute would make no sense either.

I am in any event wholly opposed to open world PvP unless the game was designed at the outset for that, which this one was not. It would change the whole nature of the game and drive far too many players away.

I'd prefer not choosing a pvp faction until I went in to Cyro for the first time. You could go all over Skyrim without joining the Imperials or the Stormcloaks until you decided (or not) to advance the quest. Completely open (pve) world and choosing your faction when you decide who to fight for (or not) would be my preference. It's silly that you'd just land in the faction you chose when you fell out of the sky from a different plane. How's that for immersion breaking? Hey, I'm a Nord and yet now because of Daedric thingies, I'm fighting for Elves? I just landed back on Tamriel, I'd like some time to see if my family is still here, enjoy not being in Coldharbour and find out who's worth fighting for in the war.

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I still haven't a clue what we're being asked to agree or disagree with.

The post is confusing to say the least but I think the op is wanting some form of open world pvp since one Tamriel is coming and the factions are supposed to be at war.

If this is what they mean then I strongly disagree.

I think most people are in agreement with your disagreement. in my experiance in ANY MMO those who actually want open world PVP everywhere are a VERY small minority. every MMO I've ever played that has had a PVP server, the PVP servers have always been the smallest, and shrunk the fastest. this suggests most people don't partiuclarly want open world PVP and among those who do, the theory is often better then the practice.

ravenarc wrote: »

NPC's don't fight in Cyrodiil, we are. If only you've seen the horrors...

Getting killed 5 vs 1 and then Teabagged and me going... really .... really what did you expect ? me to kill all of you ? congrats for been dushebags