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Still using Crystal Shards

carljokl
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I am realising from creating a new Sorcerer Alt that one of the first combat spells learned was Crystal Shards.
My original character is also a Sorcerer and I find the evolved version of Crystal Shards is still my go to attack.
Considering how much higher level (about CP 160 vs Level 5) one Sorcerer is than the other it made me think how I don't seem to have progressed to using spells unlocked at higher levels of experience. I certainly have tried using the other abilities but nothing seems to work as well for me at dispatching enemies either singular or groups as the Crystal Shards line.

I wonder if this is an unusual experience? Should I have progressed to another spell of choice by now? Is it lacking in style and imagination to keep face-rolling Crystal Shards all the time?
My Characters

Xargothius: Breton - JOAT / Magsorc | Orchid the Fair: Orismer - Crafter / Heavy Tank | Voneri Vox: Dunmer - Magplar Healer | Rexorgiana: Imperial - Temptress / Magblade
Phirkius: Altmer - MagSorc | Rexorigus: Imperial - Med Tank / StamKnight | Sven Svedishchef: Nord - Provisioner / Stamplar | Finds-All-Fungi: Argonian - Alchemist/ Stamblade
Emerald-Wild-Guard: Bosmer - Wyrd / StamSorc | Nates Datum Festi: Imperial - Light Tank / StamKnight | Magnolia Desert-Blossom: Redguard - 2 Handed Stamplar | Shadow-Softpaw: Khajiit - StamBlade
Sorcerer | Dragon Knight | Templar | Night Blade

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  • CasNation
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    What morph are you using the strongest easy single target combo is to use force pulse from the destruction staff line to proc the free cast of crystal fragments. Then you mix in Velocious curse and mages wrath to proc burst combos on a target.

    To directly answer your question though, most sorcs use force pulse because it is instant and cheaper and procs elemental effects.
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  • geonsocal
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    carljokl wrote: »
    I am realising from creating a new Sorcerer Alt that one of the first combat spells learned was Crystal Shards.
    My original character is also a Sorcerer and I find the evolved version of Crystal Shards is still my go to attack.
    Considering how much higher level (about CP 160 vs Level 5) one Sorcerer is than the other it made me think how I don't seem to have progressed to using spells unlocked at higher levels of experience. I certainly have tried using the other abilities but nothing seems to work as well for me at dispatching enemies either singular or groups as the Crystal Shards line.

    I wonder if this is an unusual experience? Should I have progressed to another spell of choice by now? Is it lacking in style and imagination to keep face-rolling Crystal Shards all the time?

    after playing awhile and trying out just about every ability in every class (plus reading through a good bit of different forum input)...it seems some of the best and most effective abilities are some of the first abilities you can acquire...
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  • CasNation
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    carljokl wrote: »
    CasNation wrote: »
    What morph are you using?

    I normally morph to Crystal blast to have splash damage onto other targets.

    While I respect the "play how you want" philosophy, I highly recommend swapping to crystal fragments. You can use other spells like impulse, liquid lightning and boundless storm for splash damage, and the single target damage potential of force pulse plus crystal fragments is much much higher than spamming crystal blast. There is a reason you don't see any end game sorc builds that use crystal blast.
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    Samekh Fyr: Dunmer Nightblade Magicka DPS
    Claire Le'Rouge: Breton Templar Heal/Tank (the Resplendent Bastion)
    Augustus Constantine: Imperial Nightblade PvP (Blackwater Bandit)
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  • psychotic13
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    carljokl wrote: »
    CasNation wrote: »
    What morph are you using?

    I normally morph to Crystal blast to have splash damage onto other targets.

    Crysral fragments is the superior morph
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  • psychotic13
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    carljokl wrote: »
    carljokl wrote: »
    CasNation wrote: »
    What morph are you using?

    I normally morph to Crystal blast to have splash damage onto other targets.

    Crysral fragments is the superior morph

    This is a pain as I chose Crystal Blast on all my Sorcerers. I will have to pay to reallocated their skill points now.

    There's an option to just reallocate the morphs and not every skill point, should be a lot cheaper.

    With the fragments morph, you have a chance for it to 'proc' when casting any Magicka ability, once it 'procs' your hands will glow purple and you will be able to cast it without the 1 second cast time, it also costs less and does more damage.
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  • Brrrofski
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    No, it's not strange.

    A lot of classes use some of the first skills you unlock.
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  • carljokl
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    CasNation wrote: »
    What morph are you using?

    I normally morph to Crystal blast to have splash damage onto other targets.

    My Characters

    Xargothius: Breton - JOAT / Magsorc | Orchid the Fair: Orismer - Crafter / Heavy Tank | Voneri Vox: Dunmer - Magplar Healer | Rexorgiana: Imperial - Temptress / Magblade
    Phirkius: Altmer - MagSorc | Rexorigus: Imperial - Med Tank / StamKnight | Sven Svedishchef: Nord - Provisioner / Stamplar | Finds-All-Fungi: Argonian - Alchemist/ Stamblade
    Emerald-Wild-Guard: Bosmer - Wyrd / StamSorc | Nates Datum Festi: Imperial - Light Tank / StamKnight | Magnolia Desert-Blossom: Redguard - 2 Handed Stamplar | Shadow-Softpaw: Khajiit - StamBlade
    Sorcerer | Dragon Knight | Templar | Night Blade
  • carljokl
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    carljokl wrote: »
    CasNation wrote: »
    What morph are you using?

    I normally morph to Crystal blast to have splash damage onto other targets.

    Crysral fragments is the superior morph

    This is a pain as I chose Crystal Blast on all my Sorcerers. I will have to pay to reallocated their skill points now.
    My Characters

    Xargothius: Breton - JOAT / Magsorc | Orchid the Fair: Orismer - Crafter / Heavy Tank | Voneri Vox: Dunmer - Magplar Healer | Rexorgiana: Imperial - Temptress / Magblade
    Phirkius: Altmer - MagSorc | Rexorigus: Imperial - Med Tank / StamKnight | Sven Svedishchef: Nord - Provisioner / Stamplar | Finds-All-Fungi: Argonian - Alchemist/ Stamblade
    Emerald-Wild-Guard: Bosmer - Wyrd / StamSorc | Nates Datum Festi: Imperial - Light Tank / StamKnight | Magnolia Desert-Blossom: Redguard - 2 Handed Stamplar | Shadow-Softpaw: Khajiit - StamBlade
    Sorcerer | Dragon Knight | Templar | Night Blade
  • carljokl
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    This thread appears to be experiencing a strange temporal anomaly where posts and their replies are occurring out of sequence. I blame Molag Bal.
    My Characters

    Xargothius: Breton - JOAT / Magsorc | Orchid the Fair: Orismer - Crafter / Heavy Tank | Voneri Vox: Dunmer - Magplar Healer | Rexorgiana: Imperial - Temptress / Magblade
    Phirkius: Altmer - MagSorc | Rexorigus: Imperial - Med Tank / StamKnight | Sven Svedishchef: Nord - Provisioner / Stamplar | Finds-All-Fungi: Argonian - Alchemist/ Stamblade
    Emerald-Wild-Guard: Bosmer - Wyrd / StamSorc | Nates Datum Festi: Imperial - Light Tank / StamKnight | Magnolia Desert-Blossom: Redguard - 2 Handed Stamplar | Shadow-Softpaw: Khajiit - StamBlade
    Sorcerer | Dragon Knight | Templar | Night Blade
  • hrothbern
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    carljokl wrote: »
    This thread appears to be experiencing a strange temporal anomaly where posts and their replies are occurring out of sequence. I blame Molag Bal.

    You are the one causing that @carljokl ;)

    Every time you tick off a post as an answer, it moves up and goes chronological in all the answers

    The posts not ticked off as an answer are sorted chronological below the answers.

    Edited by hrothbern on September 29, 2016 12:20PM
    "I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU
  • carljokl
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    hrothbern wrote: »
    carljokl wrote: »
    This thread appears to be experiencing a strange temporal anomaly where posts and their replies are occurring out of sequence. I blame Molag Bal.

    You are the one causing that @carljokl ;)

    Every time you tick off a post as an answer, it moves up and goes chronological in all the answers

    The posts not ticked off as an answer are sorted chronological below the answers.

    Ok it was my fault then. Not Molag Bal.
    My Characters

    Xargothius: Breton - JOAT / Magsorc | Orchid the Fair: Orismer - Crafter / Heavy Tank | Voneri Vox: Dunmer - Magplar Healer | Rexorgiana: Imperial - Temptress / Magblade
    Phirkius: Altmer - MagSorc | Rexorigus: Imperial - Med Tank / StamKnight | Sven Svedishchef: Nord - Provisioner / Stamplar | Finds-All-Fungi: Argonian - Alchemist/ Stamblade
    Emerald-Wild-Guard: Bosmer - Wyrd / StamSorc | Nates Datum Festi: Imperial - Light Tank / StamKnight | Magnolia Desert-Blossom: Redguard - 2 Handed Stamplar | Shadow-Softpaw: Khajiit - StamBlade
    Sorcerer | Dragon Knight | Templar | Night Blade
  • carljokl
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    I think it is worth asking. If I go to the trouble of changing my spell morphs, what are the prefered morphs for the rest of the sorcerer and staff / magic abilities?
    My Characters

    Xargothius: Breton - JOAT / Magsorc | Orchid the Fair: Orismer - Crafter / Heavy Tank | Voneri Vox: Dunmer - Magplar Healer | Rexorgiana: Imperial - Temptress / Magblade
    Phirkius: Altmer - MagSorc | Rexorigus: Imperial - Med Tank / StamKnight | Sven Svedishchef: Nord - Provisioner / Stamplar | Finds-All-Fungi: Argonian - Alchemist/ Stamblade
    Emerald-Wild-Guard: Bosmer - Wyrd / StamSorc | Nates Datum Festi: Imperial - Light Tank / StamKnight | Magnolia Desert-Blossom: Redguard - 2 Handed Stamplar | Shadow-Softpaw: Khajiit - StamBlade
    Sorcerer | Dragon Knight | Templar | Night Blade
  • psychotic13
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    carljokl wrote: »
    I think it is worth asking. If I go to the trouble of changing my spell morphs, what are the prefered morphs for the rest of the sorcerer and staff / magic abilities?

    Which ones are you speaking of in paticular?
  • Asardes
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    You have much better AoE skills:
    - explosion from mages wrath (instant)
    - explosion from velocious curse (instant)
    - liquid lightning (DoT)
    - elemental blockade (DoT)

    So it's a bad idea to rely on crystals for it, especially because the other morphs gives you a huge cost reduction and damage increase. It should be a no brainer, in the way combat prayer or aggressive warhorn is.

    Here's a pretty good guide for magicka sorcerer build:
    http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/2-3-the-yolo-wizard-v2-non-overload-pve-dps-build-vet-mol-approved/
    Edited by Asardes on September 30, 2016 2:53PM
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  • carljokl
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    I have re-morphed my abilities based on the advised ones. Crystal Fragments has been able to be a one hit kill sometimes or more typically death in two blasts. I have noticed being able to unleash a lot more spells before my magica runs out but the sorcerer I am using is more focused on boosted magica than my first one was.
    Now with the AoE effects, some seem like the Dragon Knight battle standard ultimate but being able to use it multiple times. The damage might not be as high.

    I also discovered that using summons is frowned upon especially in group dungeons where they can be confused with the enemies and get in the way.

    I have swapped out Overload from Storm Atronach. Now I can feel like Emperor Palpetine firing lightning from my hands. I haven't quite figured out what causes it to wear off. Sometimes it seems to last for ages. Other times I can loose it in a short time.

    I even was able to do a couple of normal level dungeons yesterday in the role of the healer. I managed to do well enough to avoid being kicked. I was warned that many veteran groups may kick me unless I am a templar healer.
    My Characters

    Xargothius: Breton - JOAT / Magsorc | Orchid the Fair: Orismer - Crafter / Heavy Tank | Voneri Vox: Dunmer - Magplar Healer | Rexorgiana: Imperial - Temptress / Magblade
    Phirkius: Altmer - MagSorc | Rexorigus: Imperial - Med Tank / StamKnight | Sven Svedishchef: Nord - Provisioner / Stamplar | Finds-All-Fungi: Argonian - Alchemist/ Stamblade
    Emerald-Wild-Guard: Bosmer - Wyrd / StamSorc | Nates Datum Festi: Imperial - Light Tank / StamKnight | Magnolia Desert-Blossom: Redguard - 2 Handed Stamplar | Shadow-Softpaw: Khajiit - StamBlade
    Sorcerer | Dragon Knight | Templar | Night Blade
  • Minalan
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    The frags morph knockdown should probably be moved to blast. We have a situation where one morph is too good and the other useless.

    Without the KD effect, we could cut the channel/cast time on frags by a half second.
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