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Bring back cloak purge and fix cloak #BuffMagNB

BruhItsOver9000
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Cloak is useless and doesn't work half of the time, mag nbs are weak in pvp, giving them purge will make them strong again. Mag nbs don't have major mending and just like sorcs, they are forced to wear LA in order to be good, but sorcs have shields which are uncritable and what do mag nightblades have for defense, dark cloak and the shadow barrier passive which is not that good.

Cloak doesn't work in fights anymore, mag nbs rely on cloak in pvp for defense and offense, but when cloak doesn't work, they are basically dead...giving back cloak purge wil fix the cloak problem. I have never played a mag nb so yeah that's all... @Wrobel please consider giving cloak it's purge back.







Edited by BruhItsOver9000 on September 28, 2016 9:44PM
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  • Vorcil
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    Magicka NB is the most underpowered class / type in ESO;

    Just make the switch to Stamina NB.... RIP magblades
  • Vaoh
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    Fix cloak and buff NB are separate from buff cloak.

    I am glad they removed that unfair purge effect. What they need to do is fix Cloak, and buff Magicka NB a tiny bit as well.

    Hard to see, but atm they aren't even so bad at all when you build them correctly. In fact they can be very powerful.

    The issue is that Stamina is over the top and needs to be brought down, rather than massive buffs granted to Magicka classes (only small buffs/skill updates).

    Would rather have balance instead of a hard swing toward Magicka that leaves Stamina a mess. That's what happened in Dark Brotherhood, just the other way around :/

    Balance plz
    Edited by Vaoh on September 28, 2016 9:54PM
  • BruhItsOver9000
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    Vorcil wrote: »
    Magicka NB is the most underpowered class / type in ESO;

    Just make the switch to Stamina NB.... RIP magblades

    Ikr, people complain about mdk being the weakest mag class, have they ever fought a mag nb lol.
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  • BruhItsOver9000
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Fix cloak and buff NB are separate from buff cloak.

    I am glad they removed that unfair purge effect. What they need to do is fix Cloak, and buff Magicka NB a tiny bit as well.

    Hard to see, but atm they aren't even so bad at all when you build them correctly. In fact they can be very powerful.

    The issue is that Stamina is over the top and needs to be brought down, rather than massive buffs granted to Magicka classes (only small buffs/skill updates).

    Would rather have balance instead of a hard swing toward Magicka that leaves Stamina a mess. That's what happened in Dark Brotherhood, just the other way around :/

    Balance plz

    The only good mag nb is a bomber nb, they suck at 1v1 and 1vx, they use the same strategy in a fight, gather up ultimate and proxy det soul tether, this can easily be defended. Cloak purge was unfair, i do agree with you, but maybe putting a cooldown on cloak purge would make it fair.
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  • acw37162
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    No thank you
  • Madness1
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    A Mag Nightblade can be powerful, hitting 20k DPS, great recource gain, and yeah unfortunatly can die quickly on 1v1. In a group where others are taking a lot of agro the Mag NB or two can tear down people in PVP and PVE. My biggest issue as a Mag user is how quickly my Stamina is dipping, not my Cloak.

    Keep NB the same and just buff Cloak, this'd allow NB to avoid 1v1. That'd be great.
    Edited by Madness1 on September 28, 2016 10:21PM
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  • arkansas_ESO
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    FWIW you can stack max magic pretty high on mag NB thanks to Necropotence, but there's no lying that mag NB is in a pretty bad spot right now. TBH you're pretty much shooting yourself in the foot by playing as anything but stam in 99.99% of content.


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  • Lord-Otto
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    Neither have I purge on my mag sorc or mag DK, why should my magblade be entitled to have it? Purge, or better, an efficient purge is more of a healer-type move, perfect for templars. You could still go for the alliance purge, it still works if used carefully.

    I disagree about cloak being useless. You can get into a fight unnoticed, period. That gives you the upper hand from the get got, arguably a very powerful benefit. You are not supposed to stealth through caltrops-infested zergs or magelight-spamming scouts. Nightblades have so much burst potential in their toolkits because they have the easiest time choosing whom to fight. And this is very much a thing in PvP as of now. On top of that, if you want to jump into a zerg unharmed, run the bomb build, something that, fitting, only magblades can properly pull off.

    I agree that not every whiff should pull you ot of cloak. Being gapclosed out of cloak by a zerg is pure BS. But at the same time, my sorc also has very low chance of survival in that situation, and so does my DK. And breaking my invis pot is even easier than breaking cloak, frikkin' entropy alone immediately breaks it for 45 seconds. My magblade, on the other hand, has survived encounters with zergs it shouldn't have. What I'm saying is that cloak is powerful enough without the purge effect and just needs to be... well, fixed in regards to gapclosers or spam attacks like focused aim.

    And yes, overall, magblades need moar damage in PvP. It is a very soft hitter that is hard-countered by DKs, especially mag DKs, and most templars. Unless you're going for the bomb, playing magblade is gimping yourself, as stamblade does pretty much everything better. But that is a general problem with magicka these days. I have trust that the moment magicka dps builds get a global buff, magblades will be just fine.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Considering how many new ability's can reveal now (new active mage light, camo hunter) and now stam sorc's basically being walking detection potions with hurricane, i think its safe to say that Purge Cloak coming back isn't an issue. It could only purge 2 effects instead of the previous 4 to make it more balanced (or limit to only DoT's and not debuffs also).

    I personally don't care if cloak purge comes back or not. I just want a cloak that is reliable and works. Latency is a huge factor why cloak is always breaking though.

    The issue with the stamina meta is the stamina set's at the moment (some medium and heavy). If you put every class in just a set of hundings in a dueling tournament, stamina nb would get crushed by every other stamina class.
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  • bowmanz607
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    Mag blades are fine. Some mag balance is needed. There is a shield in the LA line. Mag blade are great in heavy armor. They do not have to wear LA. The cloak purge was a bit too much. The change was a good balance. If you want to purge come tell then slot purge.

    Mag blade also have the best utility in game.

    The shadow barrier passives is great. Where other classes have to use a skill slot to get, nb basically have a 100% up time on it without slotting anything. If you want more defense then you can slot the cloak that gives damage reduction. I personally think that ability is much better in pvp.

    Sure a nb does not have major mending but swallow soul gives 8%. Plus, you get additional healing for each siphoning ability slotted

    I'd you are having problems using cloak try combining it with fear and then cloak. Use shadow image and then cloak use a knock back and then cloak. Etc.

    Nb are also the only class with dodge which is great for a mag blade.
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