Sheild mechanics

Biro123 · September 2016

I'd heard that armour/blocking mitigation does not reduce the damage taken by damage shields. But % damage reduction do (eg CP damage reduction abilities).

Does this mean that things like the 5-piece bonus for reactive will also reduce the damage taken by damage shields?

Ta.

Asardes · September 2016

The damage shields take the full damage, and only after they are depleted or expire does your character take damage, which is mitigated by your magic/physical resistance by up to 50% - you need 33.5K to get that amount; expert defender, hardy, elemental defender, thick skinned reduce the respective damage before it's checked against your resistance, but not against shields. Some shields scale on your health (templar: blazing shield, undaunted: bone shield), others on your magicka (DK: ingenous shield, sorcerer: hardened ward, restoration: healing ward, light armor: annulment). The only CP that affects shields is bastion that increases them by %.

Dracane · September 2016

Blocking while having damage shields active, will not reduce the damage you take.

But % reduction like minor and major protection, CP, undead and reactive do work even when you have a shield active.

Berenhir · September 2016

Asardes wrote: »

The damage shields take the full damage, and only after they are depleted or expire does your character take damage, which is mitigated by your magic/physical resistance by up to 50% - you need 33.5K to get that amount; expert defender, hardy, elemental defender, thick skinned reduce the respective damage before it's checked against your resistance, but not against shields. Some shields scale on your health (templar: blazing shield, undaunted: bone shield), others on your magicka (DK: ingenous shield, sorcerer: hardened ward, restoration: healing ward, light armor: annulment). The only CP that affects shields is bastion that increases them by %.

Where did you get the information that hardy, thick skinned and elemental defender are applied after shields? I am really curious as everything I ever read says the opposite.
Every CP saying it reduces damage does so before applying it to the shield.

Reactive does reduce the damage your shield takes.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-and-list-of-options-updated-for-a-third-time/p1

Biro123 · September 2016

Thanks chaps.

Autolycus · September 2016

Berenhir wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

The damage shields take the full damage, and only after they are depleted or expire does your character take damage, which is mitigated by your magic/physical resistance by up to 50% - you need 33.5K to get that amount; expert defender, hardy, elemental defender, thick skinned reduce the respective damage before it's checked against your resistance, but not against shields. Some shields scale on your health (templar: blazing shield, undaunted: bone shield), others on your magicka (DK: ingenous shield, sorcerer: hardened ward, restoration: healing ward, light armor: annulment). The only CP that affects shields is bastion that increases them by %.

Where did you get the information that hardy, thick skinned and elemental defender are applied after shields? I am really curious as everything I ever read says the opposite.
Every CP saying it reduces damage does so before applying it to the shield.

Reactive does reduce the damage your shield takes.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-and-list-of-options-updated-for-a-third-time/p1

Shields are depleted before mitigation comes into play. This includes CP mitigation.

olsborg · September 2016

Dracane wrote: »

Blocking while having damage shields active, will not reduce the damage you take.

But % reduction like minor and major protection, CP, undead and reactive do work even when you have a shield active.

This is correct. Elemental defender etc in cp reduces the dmg applied to shields and damage mitigations like major protections do aswell. Armor and spell resist and blocking does not.

Waffennacht · September 2016

CP reduces damage Before your shield takes damage. Look at the thread.

FriedEggSandwich · September 2016

Just chiming in to reaffirm that hardy, ele defender and thick skinned do reduce the damage your shields take. This is to balance out the fact that ele expert, mighty and thaumaturge increase the damage against shields.

sly007 · September 2016

Asardes wrote: »

The damage shields take the full damage, and only after they are depleted or expire does your character take damage, which is mitigated by your magic/physical resistance by up to 50% - you need 33.5K to get that amount; expert defender, hardy, elemental defender, thick skinned reduce the respective damage before it's checked against your resistance, but not against shields. Some shields scale on your health (templar: blazing shield, undaunted: bone shield), others on your magicka (DK: ingenous shield, sorcerer: hardened ward, restoration: healing ward, light armor: annulment). The only CP that affects shields is bastion that increases them by %.

Igneous shield does not scale of maximum magicka. It scales of maximum health.

paulsimonps · September 2016

Autolycus wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

The damage shields take the full damage, and only after they are depleted or expire does your character take damage, which is mitigated by your magic/physical resistance by up to 50% - you need 33.5K to get that amount; expert defender, hardy, elemental defender, thick skinned reduce the respective damage before it's checked against your resistance, but not against shields. Some shields scale on your health (templar: blazing shield, undaunted: bone shield), others on your magicka (DK: ingenous shield, sorcerer: hardened ward, restoration: healing ward, light armor: annulment). The only CP that affects shields is bastion that increases them by %.

Where did you get the information that hardy, thick skinned and elemental defender are applied after shields? I am really curious as everything I ever read says the opposite.
Every CP saying it reduces damage does so before applying it to the shield.

Reactive does reduce the damage your shield takes.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-and-list-of-options-updated-for-a-third-time/p1

Shields are depleted before mitigation comes into play. This includes CP mitigation.

SHIELDS DOES NOT APPLY BEFORE ALL TYPES OF MITIGATION!!!!!

Like one of the biggest things I found out super early on making that thread he linked to above.

paulsimonps · September 2016

So again even though someone has already linked my thread.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-and-list-of-options-updated-for-a-third-time/p1

This explain exactly how shield and mitigation works together and it also maps out all forms of current mitigation sources. Enjoy.