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Templars are the new meta

  • SlayerTheDragon
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    Templar is the only class that is not broken atm.
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  • Drummerx04
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    Smepic wrote: »
    Stam sorcs are the meta, but i do agree with @thankyourat, we nightblades lost our cloak purge, templars also need to lose their purge or at least you should not be able to purge ultimates.

    How are stamina Sorcerers any stronger than other stamina classes?

    You for real?? Well lets see, crit surge + rally permanent 3k heal every crit they get and since hurricane crits quite alot they basically have a very overpowered heal unless you can burst them down quickly.

    Second, hurricane passive physical damage that ticks at like 1-2 k per sec, and passive execute called implosion 6% chance to insta kill an enemy at lower then 25% hp (or 20% I dont remember ). Also they can restore 6k stamina in a sec by trading magicka and when do they ever need magicka? That sums it up, not to mention hurricane gives them also major resolve, 5k more resistance which is why in black rose they're pretty damn tanky, also their sorc passives which gives them increased weapon damage and high regen.

    You actually forgot minor expedition as a part of hurricane and streak giving them unparalleled mobility.
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    mr1sho wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Too bad Templar are boring as dirt to play though. I keep trying to play one, I keep getting bored.

    Edit: Boring as in the class just isn't as fun as others and is too easy to play truthfully. No challenge = no fun

    Are we talking about nightblades? There's a reason why majority of players play a nightblade.

    Majority of the players are playing Templars and stam sorcs Nightblades are a rare sight in cyro

    Wait what?!? Nightblades are a rare sight? When did this happen?
    Calboy wrote: »
    mr1sho wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Too bad Templar are boring as dirt to play though. I keep trying to play one, I keep getting bored.

    Edit: Boring as in the class just isn't as fun as others and is too easy to play truthfully. No challenge = no fun

    Are we talking about nightblades? There's a reason why majority of players play a nightblade.

    Majority of the players are playing Templars and stam sorcs Nightblades are a rare sight in cyro

    I see far more nightblades than any other class. In fact sometimes it feels like there are more nightblade than all the other classes combined in a small scale battle.

    I think he means magicka nb. Magicka nb are the rarest class. No shield, everything counters cloak, no burst, and dot sucks.
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  • LegacyDM
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    acw37162 wrote: »
    Holy Jesus Beam from outside of Cyrodil there are a lot of effin night blades trying to distract ZOS

    Not a lot of magicka nb.
    All the nightblade tears! lol
    Sorry something has to stand up to the high damage burst builds.

    What about magicka nb? No high burst here...
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  • FloppyTouch
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Too bad Templar are boring as dirt to play though. I keep trying to play one, I keep getting bored.

    Edit: Boring as in the class just isn't as fun as others and is too easy to play truthfully. No challenge = no fun

    Are we talking about nightblades? There's a reason why majority of players play a nightblade.

    Majority of the players are playing Templars and stam sorcs Nightblades are a rare sight in cyro

    Kill enemy nb quest= 10 min
    Kill enemy Templar = 20mins
    Kill enemy sorc= 30 mins
    Kill enemy dk=fml

    Tons of nb my friend
  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    mobicera wrote: »
    Buff Jesus beam! Buff BoL!
    Nerf healing ritual!
    That is all.

    wait until One Tamriel...the old Soulshine set will make your Jesus Beam even more bang zoom...over 9000 :)

    Why would people choose that over VD set? Forest through the trees my man!

    choose over VD...no no...you will be able to have both sets in One Tam as everything will come with jewellery, weaps and all armour slots oh and throw in a new Undaunted 2-piece for good measure
  • Cherryblossom
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    So people are sad that it takes a while to kill someone who is healing themselves.

    You do realise whilst they are healing and blocking, they are doing NO DAMAGE, a horde of these are not really a threat.

    Always amazes me when you have people come in saying I can't kill this person, please nerf so I can.
  • mr1sho
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    So people are sad that it takes a while to kill someone who is healing themselves.

    You do realise whilst they are healing and blocking, they are doing NO DAMAGE, a horde of these are not really a threat.

    Always amazes me when you have people come in saying I can't kill this person, please nerf so I can.

    Wouldn't be a problem if they didn't have monster helms and sets that prox every 5 seconds giving them resources back basically like a infinite cycle of heals vs damage
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  • Edziu
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Too bad Templar are boring as dirt to play though. I keep trying to play one, I keep getting bored.

    Edit: Boring as in the class just isn't as fun as others and is too easy to play truthfully. No challenge = no fun

    Are we talking about nightblades? There's a reason why majority of players play a nightblade.

    Majority of the players are playing Templars and stam sorcs Nightblades are a rare sight in cyro

    Kill enemy nb quest= 10 min
    Kill enemy Templar = 20mins
    Kill enemy sorc= 30 mins
    Kill enemy dk=fml

    Tons of nb my friend

    not exactly

    NB just arnt rare...I see on pvp almost similiar amount of all classes but nb is the easiest to kill, most of nb are squishy, just dont let them go into cloak and problem solved, mostly free ap

    templars...same so much on pvp like nb but so harder to kill because of they healing and heavy armor on most

    sorceresr..hmm....while have a problem just spamming streak and it is not to easi to catch him if hee know how the best run away with streak and other skills

    dk....meh, almost all in heavy armor also on dps, the best skill for tanking, the harders class to kill in 1vs1 if he have heavy armor, great resource management by use ults....and very tankly while can hit so hard when nb can hit very hard but no any defensive then

    to you see a difference how fast you are doing thos quests? it is no because 1 class is 50% of pvp population and 2nd class is in 10% of pvp population.....you are doing faster this quest if your opponent is just harder to kill etc
  • nine9six
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    I'll summarize this thread ...

    Someone died to a Templar. Waaaaa.

    Truth.
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  • Khairiah
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    mr1sho wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Too bad Templar are boring as dirt to play though. I keep trying to play one, I keep getting bored.

    Edit: Boring as in the class just isn't as fun as others and is too easy to play truthfully. No challenge = no fun

    Are we talking about nightblades? There's a reason why majority of players play a nightblade.

    Majority of the players are playing Templars and stam sorcs Nightblades are a rare sight in cyro

    Wait what?!? Nightblades are a rare sight? When did this happen?

    Nightblades went into stealth and sneaked off to gank a lonesome rider. :P
    Edited by Khairiah on September 26, 2016 1:36PM
  • Kelces
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    So people are sad that it takes a while to kill someone who is healing themselves.

    You do realise whilst they are healing and blocking, they are doing NO DAMAGE, a horde of these are not really a threat.

    Always amazes me when you have people come in saying I can't kill this person, please nerf so I can.

    Wouldn't be a problem if they didn't have monster helms and sets that prox every 5 seconds giving them resources back basically like a infinite cycle of heals vs damage

    So it's the monster sets all of a sudden now? Well then, still far from a valid argument for templars being the new "meta"...
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  • RavenRoxie
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    People keep trying to get Nightblade class Nerf more but in reality Templars have taken over it's ridiculous how they can spam heals with no cool down and not mention the Jesus beam from across the map Templars should be Nerf ! All I see is hordes of Templars

    That's right Templars I'm calling you out lol

    Hate on us Templars again.. See what happens...

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  • olsborg
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    Magplars need a nerf, just saying.

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  • Moglijuana
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    The class purge needs to go. I find it funny that cloak was op because it purged dots so it got nerfed, but they added an ability that purges dots. That's my main complaint with the class

    THIS x1,000,000!!!!! When my Dk's combo that costs around 10k magicka is negated and countered by a skill that costs 2,800...#balanced

    And no i don't think Cleanse should be removed. But there should be SOME kind of skill associated with an ability that is a literal crutch that can be spammed with no consequence.
    Edited by Moglijuana on September 26, 2016 2:31PM
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  • Unsent.Soul
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    So people are sad that it takes a while to kill someone who is healing themselves.

    You do realise whilst they are healing and blocking, they are doing NO DAMAGE, a horde of these are not really a threat.

    Always amazes me when you have people come in saying I can't kill this person, please nerf so I can.

    Wouldn't be a problem if they didn't have monster helms and sets that prox every 5 seconds giving them resources back basically like a infinite cycle of heals vs damage

    What will you blame next?
  • White wabbit
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    So now people just want to get rid of class skills as well , why not just delete the class while your at it , just because some sets are the main reason as I've said before won't be Zos that ruins the game it will be the players
  • Neoauspex
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    Stamina is the meta no matter the class
  • DHale
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    I agree cloak should have a cool down.
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  • White wabbit
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    Hmmm I reckon Stam Sorcs are the new meta seems to me there are more of these than Templars
  • Master_Kas
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    Inb4 forumplars come and run you over.

    Magplar is the best magspec for pvp currently, unless you're a negate bot (sorc) or a bomber nightblade but both of the later are situational.

    Don't give me crap about how they aren't OP solo. There is no solo in this game anymore xD
    Edited by Master_Kas on September 26, 2016 2:55PM
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  • Pangnirtung
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    Roechacca wrote: »
    This is what I think of you and your post.

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    L2P

    LOL

    There will NEVER be balance.

    Live with it.
  • Elara_Northwind
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    I am so fed up of people picking on Templars, simply for being the only magicka class that can stand their ground against OP stamina sheep builds. I have started to play magicka sorcerer in pvp allot now, because I am so fed up with people bitching at me if I beat them with my templar (for some reason its OK to kill them when I play sorcerer :confused: ) which speaks volumes in itself, if stamtards are so horrified that they can be beaten by a magicka class, or cannot kill that magicka class in 2 hits, that they have to constantly complain about it :lol:

    Once templar has been all but destroyed by the hoard of stamina nbs, dks and sorcerers (I never see stamina templars in pvp, I think they are extinct) the small percentage of people who refused to give up the way that they enjoy playing to join the stamtard army will have nothing left. I already know people who don't play the game anymore because the gap between stamina and magicka is so ridiculous now that they cannot compete and do not want to be forced into playing magicka templar or stamina anything in order to be competitive.

    And as for magicka templar being boring, well, I suppose that comes down to personal preference, mine being that I can think of nothing more boring that playing stamina, and so never will succumb to the 'meta' :wink:
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  • SkylarkX
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    And no i don't think Cleanse should be removed. But there should be SOME kind of skill associated with an ability that is a literal crutch that can be spammed with no consequence.

    You mean like shields, cloak, and wings?
    Edited by SkylarkX on September 26, 2016 3:16PM
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    DHale wrote: »
    I agree cloak should have a cool down.

    @DHale

    Cloaks to have a Cooldown. It's called activate inner light and even better the flare from the AvA line. Omg, fabulous skills to use.

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  • Moglijuana
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    SkylarkX wrote: »
    Moglijuana wrote: »
    And no i don't think Cleanse should be removed. But there should be SOME kind of skill associated with an ability that is a literal crutch that can be spammed with no consequence.

    You mean like shields, cloak, and wings?

    Every class has access to shields. Cloak barely works and doesn't remove dots (only magblades can sustain keeping it up, that's if they get breathing room). Wings is broken AF I don't even bother using it on my DK. It's also extremely easy to counter.

    Cleansing Ritual is an ability that costs 2,800 mag (basically spammable with a class that can easily reach 40k+ mag) that removes 5 dots, gives major mending, snares, AND heals...yea balanced.

    When you run into garbage players who are now re rolled GodMode templars, it's not their skill that makes them good...
    Edited by Moglijuana on September 26, 2016 3:34PM
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Too bad Templar are boring as dirt to play though. I keep trying to play one, I keep getting bored.

    Edit: Boring as in the class just isn't as fun as others and is too easy to play truthfully. No challenge = no fun

    Are we talking about nightblades? There's a reason why majority of players play a nightblade.

    Majority of the players are playing Templars and stam sorcs Nightblades are a rare sight in cyro

    Only because they have extra damage from stealth and the ability to be invisible almost everywhere.
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  • Grumble_and_Grunt
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    @Moglijuana Lol not sure if you remember correctly or even played the PTS patch when ritual was nerfed to cleanse 2 effects before some changes were reverted and extended ritual was made to remove 5 effects and has no dmg component. I remember how it was as a Templar trying to fight a magicka DK with my spammable dps being ofc Jabs, a frontal cone completely negated by a DK spamming talons on GCD over and over, Temp and DK is a pointless fight in any case, but changing ritual benefited the DK and atm having ritual still doesn't benefit the templar against constant talons spam, sure the templar will not die, but won't be doing any dmg to the DK either because each rotation has to be stopped to spam purge 2x to get out of talons, in this time you are talons again, so nerfing cleanse again isn't the option and is unique to only templar.

    Besides cheesing spears a Templar has no CC to go through block against a Mag DK so as you can see there are two sides to every coin. Not saying either are OP or need nerf, but the way these classes are designed a match up between the two with two equally skilled players will always draw and open world only be a nuisance to each other, nothing more, nothing less
    Edited by Grumble_and_Grunt on September 26, 2016 3:47PM
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  • tplink3r1
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    Rushed Ceremony needs to be nerfed, sorry.
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