Certainly.

Sustain: The componant of the build that allows you to sustain your rotation for any length of time. Mostly indefinately. Sustain builds are ones that almost never run out of resources exept in the face of resource drain mechanics. Almost every build has decent sustain. Typically with armorpassives geting to around a thousand regeneration and assorted cost reductions is usually enough sustain for most builds. The ways to get more sustain are increased regen, and cost reduction, something every build should have a liberal dose of.

Burst damage: Alot of damage in a short ammount of time. The two handed skill line is the best example of this, with many of the top tier builds being able to wollop an enemy for 25 K per wrecking blow cast. It's a slow but powerfull style of damage that usually synergizes well with it's counterpart, and is particularly favored in PVP.

Raw damage: Also known as sustained damage, Raw damage is simple: Constant, flowing damage, usually from the mixture of instant but spamable attacks and damage over time abilities. A stamina Dragonknight using duel wield, and it's own class damage over time abilities is a good example of sustain damage.

Raw damage can also be ment to specific philosophies on attaining sustained damage. One side, usually running dungeons and overworld content, reaches reasonable sustained damage through mitigation penetration. Raw damage in this context would mean raw crit chance and severity, achieving higher damage numbers through sheer force of numbers rather than mitigation bypass. This is usually done in Trial groups (Basicly raids) which can buff crit damage on a near 100% uptime which increases further the yield for this style.

Hope this was helpfull.

altemriel wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Certainly.

Sustain: The componant of the build that allows you to sustain your rotation for any length of time. Mostly indefinately. Sustain builds are ones that almost never run out of resources exept in the face of resource drain mechanics. Almost every build has decent sustain. Typically with armorpassives geting to around a thousand regeneration and assorted cost reductions is usually enough sustain for most builds. The ways to get more sustain are increased regen, and cost reduction, something every build should have a liberal dose of.

Burst damage: Alot of damage in a short ammount of time. The two handed skill line is the best example of this, with many of the top tier builds being able to wollop an enemy for 25 K per wrecking blow cast. It's a slow but powerfull style of damage that usually synergizes well with it's counterpart, and is particularly favored in PVP.

Raw damage: Also known as sustained damage, Raw damage is simple: Constant, flowing damage, usually from the mixture of instant but spamable attacks and damage over time abilities. A stamina Dragonknight using duel wield, and it's own class damage over time abilities is a good example of sustain damage.

Raw damage can also be ment to specific philosophies on attaining sustained damage. One side, usually running dungeons and overworld content, reaches reasonable sustained damage through mitigation penetration. Raw damage in this context would mean raw crit chance and severity, achieving higher damage numbers through sheer force of numbers rather than mitigation bypass.

Hope this was helpfull.

very insightful, thank you. And in terms of mag NB, could you please adapt the examples to mag NB skills?

I mean, to be more specific in my question here, I would like to create a build of mag NB Khajiit (not the best race, I know, as the weapon damage crit bonus does not apply to spell damage, but the sneak bonus is nice). I like to play her as super sneaky (cloaky) high damage dealing char, but not totally squishy as well.

I was thinking of either 5 seducer/4 magnus (as starter - also because my crafter can not craft 8 or 9 trait sets and I do not have gold nor mats now to buy that, nor do I run vet dungs nor trials - no time for that).

Then when I research more traits with my crafter (main), then I was thinking about 5 Julianos/4 Kagrenac, or 5 Julianos/4 Necropotence, or maybe 5 Wormcult. Lich or Elegance is also nice, but I have to grind for that pretty much.

This build is my first inspiratin for her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrsbZK-EUw0

Unfortunately PVP is where my experience shrivels and dies, so I'll have to let some of the PVP nerds take over from here. But I'm glad I was able to help in some capacity.

altemriel wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Certainly.

Sustain: The componant of the build that allows you to sustain your rotation for any length of time. Mostly indefinately. Sustain builds are ones that almost never run out of resources exept in the face of resource drain mechanics. Almost every build has decent sustain. Typically with armorpassives geting to around a thousand regeneration and assorted cost reductions is usually enough sustain for most builds. The ways to get more sustain are increased regen, and cost reduction, something every build should have a liberal dose of.

Burst damage: Alot of damage in a short ammount of time. The two handed skill line is the best example of this, with many of the top tier builds being able to wollop an enemy for 25 K per wrecking blow cast. It's a slow but powerfull style of damage that usually synergizes well with it's counterpart, and is particularly favored in PVP.

Raw damage: Also known as sustained damage, Raw damage is simple: Constant, flowing damage, usually from the mixture of instant but spamable attacks and damage over time abilities. A stamina Dragonknight using duel wield, and it's own class damage over time abilities is a good example of sustain damage.

Raw damage can also be ment to specific philosophies on attaining sustained damage. One side, usually running dungeons and overworld content, reaches reasonable sustained damage through mitigation penetration. Raw damage in this context would mean raw crit chance and severity, achieving higher damage numbers through sheer force of numbers rather than mitigation bypass.

Hope this was helpfull.

very insightful, thank you. And in terms of mag NB, could you please adapt the examples to mag NB skills? I am running dual wield/destro or restro staff

I mean, to be more specific in my question here, I would like to create a build of mag NB Khajiit (not the best race, I know, as the weapon damage crit bonus does not apply to spell damage, but the sneak bonus is nice and I like the Khajiit race). I like to play her as super sneaky (cloaky) high damage dealing char, but not totally squishy as well.

I was thinking of either 5 seducer/4 magnus (as starter - also because my crafter can not craft 8 or 9 trait sets yet and I do not have gold nor mats now to buy that, nor do I run vet dungs nor trials - no time nor experience for that).

Then when I research more traits with my crafter (main), then I was thinking about 5 Julianos/4 Kagrenac, or 5 Julianos/4 Necropotence, or maybe 5 Wormcult. Lich or Elegance is also nice, but I have to grind for that pretty much.

This build is my first inspiration for her (Sypher):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrsbZK-EUw0

anyone else pls?

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

There are soo many options that short of a cookie cutter build, it's hard to suggest. Here is some ideas:

1) Khajiit and Bosmer are awesome for sneaking builds. I switched races trying to optimize my build (I only play one character) and I'm back to Khajiit on my magblade.

2) set, skill, etc. recommendations really come down to how you play. Do you want to fight in and out of stealth? Up close are far away? Solo, small, big groups mostly? Burst or sustain damage? PvE or PvP primarily (minor differences here)? Elemental or just magic/class damage?

Answer those and I can help ya out.

yes, I know there are many options, but I just want to get some inspiration here

as I wrote above "I mean, to be more specific in my question here, I would like to create a build of mag NB Khajiit (not the best race, I know, as the weapon damage crit bonus does not apply to spell damage, but the sneak bonus is nice and I like the Khajiit race). I like to play her as super sneaky (cloaky) high damage dealing char, but not totally squishy as well."

I like solo play, but I am starting to play some PVP too, medium sized group fights mostly, but I want to be able to fight 1v1 too, or even 1vX. I also would like to be able to solo the mobs in IC. I am not sure if burst or sustain damage, I want her to be super cloaky sneaky, so burst damage ganker style I suppose. I like her to be able to stay cloaked most of the time and then uncloak, burst kill and cloak back. But not totaly squishy too.

Up close, I like to use DW and destro staff for starter hit or retreat hit, or restro staff for heals and I am adopting (and will possibly adjust) this Sypher`s build.

The skills there are the following:
Main bar - Dual Wield:
Sap Essence (Siphoning, Drain power morph)
Concealed weapon (Shadow, Weiled strike morph)
Lotus Fan (Assassination, Teleport strike morph)
Mass Hysteria (Shadow , Aspect of terror morph)
Shadowy disguise (Shadow, Shadow cloak morph)
Ulti : Soul Harvest (Assassination, Death stroke morph)


Second bar - Restro staff:
Harness magicka (Light armor, Annulment morph) (Mark target (Assassination) or Merciles resolve (Assassination, Grim focus morph) )
Cripling grasp (Siphoning, Cripple morph)
Double take (Assassination, Blur morph)
Healing ward (Restro staff, Steadfast ward morph)
Shadow image (Shadow, Summon shade morph)
Ulti: Shooting star (Mages guild, Meteor morph) (or Soul Tether (Siphoning, Soul shred morph))

The gear there is 5 Lich (or Seducer)/4 Julianos, 3 willpower, but I wonder if it could be improved to be even better.


I also like the 5 Alchemyst/5 Vicious death combo, with proxy detonation and Shadow image (port back), aka Sypher`s Bomber build (Drink a potion on the clever alchemist bar, put down a shadow image, sneak or lotus fan into the middle of a zerg when the time is right, proxy detonation and soul tether at the same time,sap essence to finish those still alive and shadow image back to their spawn,)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kK19S2YPAUM

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

oh and go 5LA/1MA/1HA for higher stats as well. If you are 5LA, then make sure your chest is HA and head, shoulder, legs, or boots are MA.

If you decide to go 5HA/1MA/1LA, then make sure the MA is hand and LA is belt.

These will give you the best armor rating for your armor selection.

I would agree normally, but on a level 13 character there'll be no Undaunted passives.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Hardened PVP veteran here.

Regardless of race or class most people will tell you to go high on impen. For new players this is good advice. What most people won't tell you is that the longer you play in Cyrodiil, and increase your skill level with things like line of site, ganking, seige tactics, map knowledge, and overall battle awareness, you should start stripping away impen.

There are plenty of great spells to midigate damage. I, for example use mist form, to midigate 75% of incoming damage. The only crit resistance I have is from my champion points. At the highest levels of PVP (dueling excluded) your best defense is a great offense. You want to have a build that can melt someone without giving them a chance to hit back. The best defense is a great offense.

If your initial attack does not work you need to have different ways to regroup. My Templar uses Mist Form, Breath of Life, Rapid Manuevers and both immovable pots and invisibilty pots so I have 5 different ways of dealing with attackers in addition to basic blocking.

As for your offensive abilities you don't need 5 or 10 different attacks. What you need are 1 to 3 big attacks and other spells equipped to make those go-to attacks hit harder.

Also, this has not been mentioned. Some people are hardcore proponents of spell and weapon damage. In reality, however, if you want a quick way to judge your damage potential remember that 100 spell or weapon damage is almost identical to 1000 max magicka or stamina. In PVP my max magical sits about 42.4k and my spell damage is about 3.4k. Adding 42.4 to 34 gives me a total damage "rating" of 76.4. Anything above about 70 means you can hit like a truck. Hope this helps.

thank you !!

and I have one more question, I read about damage mitigation, attack mitigation in terms of builds. How to increase that value?

Berenhir wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

altemriel wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Hardened PVP veteran here.

Regardless of race or class most people will tell you to go high on impen. For new players this is good advice. What most people won't tell you is that the longer you play in Cyrodiil, and increase your skill level with things like line of site, ganking, seige tactics, map knowledge, and overall battle awareness, you should start stripping away impen.

There are plenty of great spells to midigate damage. I, for example use mist form, to midigate 75% of incoming damage. The only crit resistance I have is from my champion points. At the highest levels of PVP (dueling excluded) your best defense is a great offense. You want to have a build that can melt someone without giving them a chance to hit back. The best defense is a great offense.

If your initial attack does not work you need to have different ways to regroup. My Templar uses Mist Form, Breath of Life, Rapid Manuevers and both immovable pots and invisibilty pots so I have 5 different ways of dealing with attackers in addition to basic blocking.

As for your offensive abilities you don't need 5 or 10 different attacks. What you need are 1 to 3 big attacks and other spells equipped to make those go-to attacks hit harder.

Also, this has not been mentioned. Some people are hardcore proponents of spell and weapon damage. In reality, however, if you want a quick way to judge your damage potential remember that 100 spell or weapon damage is almost identical to 1000 max magicka or stamina. In PVP my max magical sits about 42.4k and my spell damage is about 3.4k. Adding 42.4 to 34 gives me a total damage "rating" of 76.4. Anything above about 70 means you can hit like a truck. Hope this helps.

thank you !!

and I have one more question, I read about damage mitigation, attack mitigation in terms of builds. How to increase that value?

???

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-and-list-of-options-updated-for-a-third-time/p1

This might help you

very good, thank you!!

and also this is a nice list of buffs and debuffs of various skills:
http://esoacademy.com/buffs-debuffs/

Ferrofluid wrote: »

There's a shadow passive that gives you the major resist buffs whenever you cast a shadow skill. If you have enough magicka sustain you should try and cast these skips often enough to keep the buffs up all the time.

yes I see, Shadow Barrier , thank you for info !

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Certainly.

Sustain: The componant of the build that allows you to sustain your rotation for any length of time. Mostly indefinately. Sustain builds are ones that almost never run out of resources exept in the face of resource drain mechanics. Almost every build has decent sustain. Typically with armorpassives geting to around a thousand regeneration and assorted cost reductions is usually enough sustain for most builds. The ways to get more sustain are increased regen, and cost reduction, something every build should have a liberal dose of.

Burst damage: Alot of damage in a short ammount of time. The two handed skill line is the best example of this, with many of the top tier builds being able to wollop an enemy for 25 K per wrecking blow cast. It's a slow but powerfull style of damage that usually synergizes well with it's counterpart, and is particularly favored in PVP.

Raw damage: Also known as sustained damage, Raw damage is simple: Constant, flowing damage, usually from the mixture of instant but spamable attacks and damage over time abilities. A stamina Dragonknight using duel wield, and it's own class damage over time abilities is a good example of sustain damage.

Raw damage can also be ment to specific philosophies on attaining sustained damage. One side, usually running dungeons and overworld content, reaches reasonable sustained damage through mitigation penetration. Raw damage in this context would mean raw crit chance and severity, achieving higher damage numbers through sheer force of numbers rather than mitigation bypass. This is usually done in Trial groups (Basicly raids) which can buff crit damage on a near 100% uptime which increases further the yield for this style.

Hope this was helpfull.

burst damage. the more damage you can do in shorter ammout of time. two hand is a terrible example, there are builds that could kill someone from stealth before they even finish winding up wrecking blow. veledrith is a good one, you are locked with how many skills you can use in a given time you cant cast skills faster. having high raw damage contributes to burst, but sets that do damage on proc can significantly increase burst because they essentially add a free "damage skill" into your already full rotation making more damage come out faster

good advice!

and also attack weaving and animation cancelling too