xarguideb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't use this set, but I don't rely much on shields either in PVP. I think it's just a cute trolling set that isn't very harmful anyway. Back in the day I tried it out, rarely worked vs any sorcerer with a clue.
If it worked well against you then this set barely justifies itself, because it is so situational.
Anyway, I wouldn't might if they made something more interesting of it.
I wish there were more sets you could buy for tel var stones anyway.

Yeah it's a bit of a one-trick-pony. Would be nice if it offered something else, because we do need some more interesting medium armor sets for tel var.
Anyway, it worked in this instance because I was sitting inside a snare and sorc roots, so I couldn't reach the pro player spamming light attacks at me with a bow. That 2.1k damage really adds up over time when you rely on shields to keep yourself alive.

Wollust wrote: »

If you slot shield breaker you're just gimping yourself these days

For serious players, totally. But those robots that sit in the back wearing sets like this spamming light attacks and snipe are pretty dangerous, because there's usually more than one. I don't see much of this set thankfully, just having a rant really at how stupid things are becoming.

I think it's definitely time for this set to be removed or utterly reworked.

Do you know how annoying it is to 1vX a group of 6+ EP Stam NB/Magicka Templars in the Imperial City trying to take their flag, only for them to respawn super quickly about ~40m away, and then equip Shield Breaker when they can't win otherwise since it hard counters Mag Sorcs?

It's very annoying. That happened to me yesterday and I had to leave the area. Shieldbreaker has always been deadly, but I spend much more time applying shields that dealing damage now because of the shield duration nerf. So yeah, I approve of some big changes being made to this set.

Never understood why you should be rewarded fighting a Mag Sorc by counting to 5sec and then CCing for a win 90% of the time.

susmitds wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

xarguideb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't use this set, but I don't rely much on shields either in PVP. I think it's just a cute trolling set that isn't very harmful anyway. Back in the day I tried it out, rarely worked vs any sorcerer with a clue.
If it worked well against you then this set barely justifies itself, because it is so situational.
Anyway, I wouldn't might if they made something more interesting of it.
I wish there were more sets you could buy for tel var stones anyway.

Yeah it's a bit of a one-trick-pony. Would be nice if it offered something else, because we do need some more interesting medium armor sets for tel var.
Anyway, it worked in this instance because I was sitting inside a snare and sorc roots, so I couldn't reach the pro player spamming light attacks at me with a bow. That 2.1k damage really adds up over time when you rely on shields to keep yourself alive.

It is the only weakness of Blazing Shield builds if you are honorable enough not to use poisons.

It's really not the only weakness. Mag sorcs are a pain as they dance around you flinging crap and staying out of range. Stamina builds that constantly CC you with dizzying swing, trap beast, snares. Those annoying ice builds that root and snare you non-stop.
Blazing shield builds have very little mobility and good players will pick up on that and use it to their advantage. Bad ones will say Shield Breaker is the only answer.

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Lmao. I'd you die from someone spamming this and only this than you deserve it tbh. It is the same thing as someone just hitting someone with light attacks who does not have a shield and killing them. I mean seriously if you have 20k health, someone would have to hit you 10-12 times to kill you. If you let someone do that it is a l2p issue.

Against any competent player shield breaker is really only an execute when they get to low health and start spamming shields to stay alive. This set will prevent that unless they use Los.

This happened in a group fight where I was tanking a few people and some idiot was standing in the back spamming light attacks. I'm not talking about a 1v1 here, because yeah, if I let him get away with that then it's all on me.
It was also open field in Cyrodiil - there was no where to LoS.

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

Lmao. I'd you die from someone spamming this and only this than you deserve it tbh. It is the same thing as someone just hitting someone with light attacks who does not have a shield and killing them. I mean seriously if you have 20k health, someone would have to hit you 10-12 times to kill you. If you let someone do that it is a l2p issue.

Against any competent player shield breaker is really only an execute when they get to low health and start spamming shields to stay alive. This set will prevent that unless they use Los.

This happened in a group fight where I was tanking a few people and some idiot was standing in the back spamming light attacks. I'm not talking about a 1v1 here, because yeah, if I let him get away with that then it's all on me.
It was also open field in Cyrodiil - there was no where to LoS.

If you were tanking a few people then where are the hits they did to you? If your in a group fight, where was your healer? Additionally, if your just dieing to someone spamming it maybe stop spamm8ng your shield since it is killing you. As a tank you should have enough mitigation to get through without having to rely on shield spamming. Also, you were outnumbered it seems. It was not necessarily sb that killed you but being outnumvered. After all, if you were not out numbered he could not have been spamming it on you. You were distracted by others. Tell your group members to go take that person out or somwthing. So many other tactics to be utilized rather then yelling at the set.

I've no idea where all the damage was in the recap. I was as surprised as you are. Our healer was dead at that time I think, and yes we were outnumbered. How am I supposed to communicate with group members to take out the shield breaker guy if I can't even see whose doing it? He was literally like 35+ meters away and I couldn't even see him while I was busy fighting off all the other stamina brutes throwing down traps and spamming dizzying swing like champs.

Was this from someone who's name started with A ?

If so he got me a few times, I thought no one used that set these days

leepalmer95 wrote: »

It's just another xv1 tool used by bad players.

Instead of learning the game and improving they just use these sorts of things.

It at the same level as jesus beam, poisons etc..

Yup!

It's worse though, because on good solo Magicka Sorc builds, you do not run any real healing skills. Shields are your sole defense. All I have to heal is Structured Entropy, Healing Ward, Reviving Barrier, and my Health Regen -_-

It was not a good idea back when it was introduced, but now it is completely stupid for this to even be available.

Shield Breaker is 100% a direct counter to Mag Sorcs.

Shield Breaker (CP160 Gold)
(2 items) Adds 967 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Your Light and Heavy Attacks deal 2015 irresistible damage against enemies with a Damage Shield.


The Magicka equivalent to Shield Breaker would cause so much QQ:

Deathly Siphon
(2 items) Adds 967 Max Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(5 items) Your Light and Heavy Attacks deal 2015 irresistible damage against enemies without a Damage Shield. Health lost through this set's effect cannot be healed back for 10 seconds.

What's the counter you say? Well LoS of course! Or roll a lot! Or slot those extremely convenient Max Health scaling shields to combat the set. After all, it is your fault if you cannot win a fight, correct?

We can all use what we want. Would you complain about a set like Deathly Siphon @Wassem ..... seems you aren't understanding what the issue is with Shield Breaker. Could never see balance unless it benefitted you. Smh