ESO+ Free Loot Crate idea

Jailbirdy · September 2016

"Loot Crates" seem a bit overpriced in crowns and the drop rate on the current stuff causes some unrest when RNG goes against you.

Maybe give the ESO+ Members the ability or a token to get 1 Free crate a month??? (without using the 1500 crowns they get now)

It would encourage people to subscribe to ESO+
It would provide another benefit to membership
A Crate token could possibly be used for other things???

JB

seebra · September 2016

not gonna happen

Suter1972 · September 2016

for the benefit of us alleyway dredges on console who don't live in the promised land of PC can you let us know where you got the price of the crowncrates from and what the prices are? was it PTS?

Jailbirdy · September 2016

Suter1972 wrote: »

for the benefit of us alleyway dredges on console who don't live in the promised land of PC can you let us know where you got the price of the crowncrates from and what the prices are? was it PTS?

Last post I saw in the PTS forums and the video stream from Deltia show the cost at 400 crowns each. (and the video streamers are saying the cost is too high for the items you win from the crates)

Hope that helps.

Neirymn · September 2016

Jailbirdy wrote: »

"Loot Crates" seem a bit overpriced in crowns and the drop rate on the current stuff causes some unrest when RNG goes against you.

Maybe give the ESO+ Members the ability or a token to get 1 Free crate a month??? (without using the 1500 crowns they get now)

It would encourage people to subscribe to ESO+

It would provide another benefit to membership

A Crate token could possibly be used for other things???

JB

I was thinking that too because I won't waste my subscription crowns on these anyway and it could get more players to subscribe too. Maybe it could encourage ESO Plus members to stay subscribed as well, because some of them have cancelled their subscription because of these crates.

Recremen · September 2016

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

leepalmer95 · September 2016

3x crates a month would be nice.

It's not like these crated will cost zos anything and it would be an incentive to eso + because all you get now is small exp boosts and such, access to dlc (though theres a deal with most of the dlc for like £22) , crowns and a bag.

Now the crowns and bag are nice, but giving eso+ member basically free cosmetics would be a nice incentive.

wayfarerx · September 2016

Recremen wrote: »

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

This. I sub and I want nothing to do with these crates even if they were free.

Jailbirdy · September 2016

Recremen wrote: »

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

I doubt they scrap all the work into it already, they are coming. I am just trying to offer ideas they could do to mitigate costs and retain monthly paying members.

I respect your opinion and also think the game is heading down a path that could lead us into a money sink in the future.

NewBlacksmurf · September 2016

errrr maybe just dont have loot crates at all....just saying

Regarding ESO Plus benefits tho....I would strongly comment against any other additions without addressing the current one's that ppl complain about.

Specifically, lets point out that the gold increase is pointless but there is now a gold sink with traders being added for bids and Trials will offer more gold. Cool...but if gold is an issue, perhaps ESO Plus benefit could use a notable increase.

Crates.....naaah that would be the wrong direction.

UltimaJoe777 · September 2016

Give someone a taste of the drug and they develop the addiction. A freebie would only feed a gambler its bad habit.

leepalmer95 · September 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Give someone a taste of the drug and they develop the addiction. A freebie would only feed a gambler its bad habit.

cool, they can pay my for my new content

Jailbirdy · September 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Give someone a taste of the drug and they develop the addiction. A freebie would only feed a gambler its bad habit.

Is that a suggestion to ZOS to implement this idea? lol

Runs · September 2016

seebra wrote: »

not gonna happen

Honestly it has a good shot at happening.

The benefits to ZOS for doing this heavily outweighs any cons.

@UltimaJoe777 hit the nail on the head with his comment.

Jailbirdy · September 2016

Runs wrote: »

seebra wrote: »

not gonna happen

Honestly it has a good shot at happening.

The benefits to ZOS for doing this heavily outweighs any cons.

@UltimaJoe777 hit the nail on the head with his comment.

I agree, it seems like a - Win / Win - for ZOS based upon the discussion so far (since it is coming anyhow)

idk · September 2016

@Jailbirdy

Crates are not over priced. They are just priced. It's a choice to buy and there is no valid reason in your thread for Zos to provide any craft for free.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · September 2016

I am definitely on board with this idea.

Jailbirdy · September 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@Jailbirdy

Crates are not over priced. They are just priced. It's a choice to buy and there is no valid reason in your thread for Zos to provide any craft for free.

Thanks for your thoughts, but I stated why it may be a good idea and several people responded in agreement. I think those reasons are not invalid through an opinion.

As far as overpriced: The PTS thread is showing the results of what people get who buy 10 crates. The same amount of crowns could have purchased those items for 70% less if/when they were available. The choice to buy is irrelevant in determining whether they are overpriced.

Thanks again for you thoughts!

Recremen · September 2016

Jailbirdy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

I doubt they scrap all the work into it already, they are coming. I am just trying to offer ideas they could do to mitigate costs and retain monthly paying members.

I respect your opinion and also think the game is heading down a path that could lead us into a money sink in the future.

Eh, they scrapped the spellcrafting system, I think there's still a chance for them to scrap what they have for this system. Keep in mind that the only thing they'd be scrapping are a tiny handful of UI elements. Crate icons, Pacrooti's interface, that sort of thing. All the items are still good and, if put on the store, would still make tons and tons of money. I think it's OK for the marketing department to sit down, think hard, and say "you know what? We messed up." Other departments have already done that and the game is better for it.

idk · September 2016

Jailbirdy wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@Jailbirdy

Crates are not over priced. They are just priced. It's a choice to buy and there is no valid reason in your thread for Zos to provide any craft for free.

Thanks for your thoughts, but I stated why it may be a good idea and several people responded in agreement. I think those reasons are not invalid through an opinion.

As far as overpriced: The PTS thread is showing the results of what people get who buy 10 crates. The same amount of crowns could have purchased those items for 70% less if/when they were available. The choice to buy is irrelevant in determining whether they are overpriced.

Thanks again for you thoughts!

Just because some people like it doesn't make it a great idea. Heck, people always like getting something free or something extra. Doesn't make it a good idea.

The crates are a business decision. If your idea plays well for the business decision the it would be a good idea, however, I do not see any thoughts that support it being a good business decision. It would have little effect on subscriber rates, if any affect. I don't see someone thinking they should sub for a free crate every month.

But thank you for your thoughts.

UltimaJoe777 · September 2016

Recremen wrote: »

Jailbirdy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

I doubt they scrap all the work into it already, they are coming. I am just trying to offer ideas they could do to mitigate costs and retain monthly paying members.

I respect your opinion and also think the game is heading down a path that could lead us into a money sink in the future.

Eh, they scrapped the spellcrafting system, I think there's still a chance for them to scrap what they have for this system. Keep in mind that the only thing they'd be scrapping are a tiny handful of UI elements. Crate icons, Pacrooti's interface, that sort of thing. All the items are still good and, if put on the store, would still make tons and tons of money. I think it's OK for the marketing department to sit down, think hard, and say "you know what? We messed up." Other departments have already done that and the game is better for it.

The Spellcrafting concept itself is not scrapped, it is just on hold.

Evergnar · September 2016

Jailbirdy wrote: »

"Loot Crates" seem a bit overpriced in crowns and the drop rate on the current stuff causes some unrest when RNG goes against you.

Maybe give the ESO+ Members the ability or a token to get 1 Free crate a month??? (without using the 1500 crowns they get now)

It would encourage people to subscribe to ESO+

It would provide another benefit to membership

A Crate token could possibly be used for other things???

JB

I would recommend not encouraging loot crates period. Speak with your wallets if you don't like what Zenimax is offering. Begging for "more" or better rng will do no good.

Soella · September 2016

I pay sub, but I definitely will not gamble. Not because I think it is not appropriate, mainly it is not my cup of tea.

I would be glad though to be able to buy for game gold mounts/cosmetics off people who gambled.

What is more important for me, I am pretty sure quite a few best housing decorations will be only within crates, and it makes me sad already....

Please, let mounts/pets/housing elements/so on received from crates be BoE.

idk · September 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

Jailbirdy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

I doubt they scrap all the work into it already, they are coming. I am just trying to offer ideas they could do to mitigate costs and retain monthly paying members.

I respect your opinion and also think the game is heading down a path that could lead us into a money sink in the future.

Eh, they scrapped the spellcrafting system, I think there's still a chance for them to scrap what they have for this system. Keep in mind that the only thing they'd be scrapping are a tiny handful of UI elements. Crate icons, Pacrooti's interface, that sort of thing. All the items are still good and, if put on the store, would still make tons and tons of money. I think it's OK for the marketing department to sit down, think hard, and say "you know what? We messed up." Other departments have already done that and the game is better for it.

The Spellcrafting concept itself is not scrapped, it is just on hold.

@UltimaJoe777
Spell crafting is in the same void as jewelry crafting has been for 30 months.

Its been out on a shelf and collecting dust. A distant memory for Zos.

alexkdd99 · September 2016

Recremen wrote: »

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

So since they are adding these crates you don't want one for free?
I understand disagreeing with the crates but I doubt they are going away, might as well make the best of it and of you can get free items then why not.

I doubt this will happen but maybe, it's worth a shot anyways.

UltimaJoe777 · September 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

Jailbirdy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

I doubt they scrap all the work into it already, they are coming. I am just trying to offer ideas they could do to mitigate costs and retain monthly paying members.

I respect your opinion and also think the game is heading down a path that could lead us into a money sink in the future.

Eh, they scrapped the spellcrafting system, I think there's still a chance for them to scrap what they have for this system. Keep in mind that the only thing they'd be scrapping are a tiny handful of UI elements. Crate icons, Pacrooti's interface, that sort of thing. All the items are still good and, if put on the store, would still make tons and tons of money. I think it's OK for the marketing department to sit down, think hard, and say "you know what? We messed up." Other departments have already done that and the game is better for it.

The Spellcrafting concept itself is not scrapped, it is just on hold.

@UltimaJoe777
Spell crafting is in the same void as jewelry crafting has been for 30 months.

Its been out on a shelf and collecting dust. A distant memory for Zos.

Nah, they're well aware it is wanted and want to add it but are waiting for the right time. No one can say when that time is though... Could be Update 13, could be Update 31...

Mandragora · September 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Jailbirdy wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@Jailbirdy

Crates are not over priced. They are just priced. It's a choice to buy and there is no valid reason in your thread for Zos to provide any craft for free.

Thanks for your thoughts, but I stated why it may be a good idea and several people responded in agreement. I think those reasons are not invalid through an opinion.

As far as overpriced: The PTS thread is showing the results of what people get who buy 10 crates. The same amount of crowns could have purchased those items for 70% less if/when they were available. The choice to buy is irrelevant in determining whether they are overpriced.

Thanks again for you thoughts!

Just because some people like it doesn't make it a great idea. Heck, people always like getting something free or something extra. Doesn't make it a good idea.

The crates are a business decision. If your idea plays well for the business decision the it would be a good idea, however, I do not see any thoughts that support it being a good business decision. It would have little effect on subscriber rates, if any affect. I don't see someone thinking they should sub for a free crate every month.

But thank you for your thoughts.

I would like to know who you are if you know so for sure what is going to happen? You don't sound really friendly, so I hope you are not connected to ZOS...

Magicka_DK · September 2016

Why do ESO+ players feel to need to make a thread after every new feature is announced saying they should get something free out of it? You are paying for 1500crowns and you got dyes and craft bags stop asking for everything.

UltimaJoe777 · September 2016

Magicka_DK wrote: »

Why do ESO+ players feel to need to make a thread after every new feature is announced saying they should get something free out of it? You are paying for 1500crowns and you got dyes and craft bags stop asking for everything.

I subscribe and I do not support this idea.

wayfarerx · September 2016

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

So since they are adding these crates you don't want one for free?
I understand disagreeing with the crates but I doubt they are going away, might as well make the best of it and of you can get free items then why not.

I doubt this will happen but maybe, it's worth a shot anyways.

I'm not who you quoted but I'll answer your question anyway. The crown crates are awful, the drop rate is awful, the whole crown gems thing is awful, the debasement of Pacrooti is awful. There is not a single thing about this system that I like, I think it is non-transparent and predatory. I have no desire to vindicate this system whatsoever and I want absolutely nothing to do with it.

idk · September 2016

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

Jailbirdy wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

I don't want free gambling tokens, I want to be able to buy digital goods at set prices. These gambling boxes are a complete travesty.

I doubt they scrap all the work into it already, they are coming. I am just trying to offer ideas they could do to mitigate costs and retain monthly paying members.

I respect your opinion and also think the game is heading down a path that could lead us into a money sink in the future.

Eh, they scrapped the spellcrafting system, I think there's still a chance for them to scrap what they have for this system. Keep in mind that the only thing they'd be scrapping are a tiny handful of UI elements. Crate icons, Pacrooti's interface, that sort of thing. All the items are still good and, if put on the store, would still make tons and tons of money. I think it's OK for the marketing department to sit down, think hard, and say "you know what? We messed up." Other departments have already done that and the game is better for it.

The Spellcrafting concept itself is not scrapped, it is just on hold.

@UltimaJoe777
Spell crafting is in the same void as jewelry crafting has been for 30 months.

Its been out on a shelf and collecting dust. A distant memory for Zos.

Nah, they're well aware it is wanted and want to add it but are waiting for the right time. No one can say when that time is though... Could be Update 13, could be Update 31...

@UltimaJoe777

Link to where Zos says they want to add free crates for subs, or anyone for that matter? Link it or it didn't happen.