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Nightblade nerf.
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thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Stamblade is the worse class out of all the stam classes at the moment. Why would you nerf them, if anything nerf stam dk and stamplar. I always get confused when people say nerf nightblades. If you are any other stam class and you are losing to a stamblade he is just better than you point blank. The lack of major mending makes nightblade the easiest class to beat.
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I think that may be the overall goal of the OP.
I don't know where you play, but on EU they are freaking everywhere.
We have a lot of them too.
Just like we have a lot of Templars.
And a lot of stam Sorcs.
Lol sorry, I think I quoted the wrong person. I was supposed to quote the guy who said there are no mag sorcs.0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave nightblades alone, my magblade is my favorite pve class, really could care less about pvp though...
If you want something nerfed than nerf mag sorcs I still see them around in random dungeons now and again
(sarcasm if you can't tell...)
That's where they need to be careful. Magblades aren't what I would call killing machines like stamblades, and from what I've seen, ZOS do blanket nerfs. When people realised how stupidly OP incap was, they went and nerfed the damage of death stroke lel
Really all they needed to do was return incap to its previous mechanic where it would only knock you down if they are lower health than their target. That's my only gripe anyway.2 -
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✭Isellskooma wrote: »BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Isellskooma wrote: »
Nightblades aren't squishy.BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.
Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I mainly run snb on my Nightblade and I main nb but I just started using 2h/bow for the first time on my character that's 9 months old and I never get hit hard at all I don't know how you play but I run 0 into hardy and the avg Suprise attacks I get hit by is like 6k dmg which is normal and nbs do need a nerf. I was doing some 1vX on my 2h/bow and it didn't even feel good cause I put no effort into it just heavy attack incap dead, heavy attack incap dead. Literally no effort at all. And it's not just incap most of the passives are very strong making it the easy class.
Maybe if you fight lvl 10 and no CP players. In this meta we have today in which everyone runs Heavy armor and SnB only player you can land those hits are NBs. My average SA hits are around 3.5k and Incap around 6-7k and that is if not blocked, only time you see big hits are against noobish LA magica users and MA NBs, everyone else is tanky as ***. So your statement is total bull...1 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave nightblades alone, my magblade is my favorite pve class, really could care less about pvp though...
If you want something nerfed than nerf mag sorcs I still see them around in random dungeons now and again (sarcasm if you can't tell...)
That's where they need to be careful. Magblades aren't what I would call killing machines like stamblades, and from what I've seen, ZOS do blanket nerfs. When people realised how stupidly OP incap was, they went and nerfed the damage of death stroke lel
Really all they needed to do was return incap to its previous mechanic where it would only knock you down if they are lower health than their target. That's my only gripe anyway.
Incapacitating Strike currently is way too strong.
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BruhItsOver9000✭✭✭✭✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Isellskooma wrote: »
Nightblades aren't squishy.BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.
Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I'm going to assume that you in fact use a Nightblade, which is why you're doing all you can to defend it from being nerfed. In fact, if I can recall correctly — you said you've killed me numerous times before. And how I'm supposedly "very easy" to kill. The only classes that have managed to kill me repeatedly without too much effort is the Nightblade class. Which would honestly make perfect sense.
Edit: Can we have the cost of Cloak increased with each use within a certain period of time, being as Bolt Escape was treated this way? After all, both of them are "escape skills". They both give a means of providing survivability to each class, should things get too messy. Please have 'proper' balance, and apply the same penalty to Nightblades as you have to Sorcerers. @Wrobel
Putting a penalty on cloak will only hurt mag blades, mag blades don't have good heals and no major mending, sorcs have shields, putting a penalty on bolt escape didn't effect them that much. Mag blades use cloak as an offensive skill, putting a penalty on cloak hurts mag blades and will make them even more weak in pvp.
As for stam blades, we're the weakest stam class in pvp, as i said we don't have major mending and we're squishy.
Also you were on your mag temp when i killed you, so you should not complain when a nightblade killes you.
@Wrobel ignore this thread and don't listen to @Ch4mpTW.WOOD ELF MASTER RACE.5 -
Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I think that may be the overall goal of the OP.
I don't know where you play, but on EU they are freaking everywhere.
Nightblades are everywhere; no matter the platform. And it's obvious as to why people use them. The ease of use, as well as overtuned performance and skills. Constantly they've dodged and wiggled out of receiving some 'adjustments' and 'fixes'. It's ridiculous. Even from a PVE perspective, Nightblades MUST be toned down. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. Especially when so much content is based around stealthy play-styles (e.g. Imperial City, Thieves Guild, and Dark Brotherhood). Not to mention, it's the recommended class for beginners to start ESO for a reason. As well as class suggested by others to clear VMA with. There's a reason for this.
Please ZOS, for once apply proper balance and 'fix' the Nightblade class. It has gone on for far too long, and your player base has complained about it for months. Tone down the class already. Enough is enough.
Only the people who can't figure out how to deal with them are complaining.
Ease of use: Not really, probably the toughest class to actually master, according to many. Not a lot of room for error.
Not receiving adjustments:
Siphoning strikes was considered too OP and changed with IC. Back at the beginning of this year as well as had it's resource return lessened back a few months after launch.
Dark Cloak had the cleanse removed completely from it.
Update 5 reduced damage of attacks coming out of stealth (while this is across the board for all classes, it directly affects the standard type of NB play.)
Update 5 also brought a nerf to healing from Sap Essence, and reduced the duration of fear by 1.5 seconds. Durations of Shadow Image and Veil of blades were decreased as well....
Update 9: reduced duration of heals from Refreshing Path
Update 9: Funnel health healing to friendlies decreased from 2 to 1.
Should I keep going?
You might try knowing about what you're complaining about before typing it.Edited by Sigtric on September 20, 2016 4:41PM
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Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Isellskooma wrote: »BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Isellskooma wrote: »
Nightblades aren't squishy.BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.
Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I mainly run snb on my Nightblade and I main nb but I just started using 2h/bow for the first time on my character that's 9 months old and I never get hit hard at all I don't know how you play but I run 0 into hardy and the avg Suprise attacks I get hit by is like 6k dmg which is normal and nbs do need a nerf. I was doing some 1vX on my 2h/bow and it didn't even feel good cause I put no effort into it just heavy attack incap dead, heavy attack incap dead. Literally no effort at all. And it's not just incap most of the passives are very strong making it the easy class.
I agree somewhat. Nightblades are easy 1vX because they completely destroy bad players and players with bad builds. Also new players don't know how to deal with cloak so you can take advantage of them, but against competent players they are kind of weak. Major mending is the best passive in the game. All stam classes need a nerf but stamblade is last on the chopping block for a nerf. Until something is done about these stamplars who are unkillable with major vitality pots and major mending I think we should leave nightblade alone. The clever alchemist gank builds are a different story but I think it's that set that needs a nerf1 -
OOJIMMY✭✭✭Every ones counter argument to this beef makes no sense to me. I'm asking for an increase to the cost of an ult. What other ult is that cheap? The templar radiant javelin? I saw people claiming dawnbreaker was to cheap and that's double the cost. Is a small increase to ult cost being the burst damage?
And I honestly don't know if that would mess up magblades.1 -
OOJIMMY✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »Stamblade is the worse class out of all the stam classes at the moment. Why would you nerf them, if anything nerf stam dk and stamplar. I always get confused when people say nerf nightblades. If you are any other stam class and you are losing to a stamblade he is just better than you point blank. The lack of major mending makes nightblade the easiest class to beat.
Major mending doesn't help when incap applies major defile.1 -
Isellskooma✭✭✭✭Is that your damage on heavy or average? Not everyone runs heavy just some people that are running solo or small group. Most kids in zergs that over extend aren't in heavy just normal builds. And no it's not against lvl 10s cause or no cp players cause that's not a real 1vXIsellskooma wrote: »BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Isellskooma wrote: »
Nightblades aren't squishy.BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.
Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I mainly run snb on my Nightblade and I main nb but I just started using 2h/bow for the first time on my character that's 9 months old and I never get hit hard at all I don't know how you play but I run 0 into hardy and the avg Suprise attacks I get hit by is like 6k dmg which is normal and nbs do need a nerf. I was doing some 1vX on my 2h/bow and it didn't even feel good cause I put no effort into it just heavy attack incap dead, heavy attack incap dead. Literally no effort at all. And it's not just incap most of the passives are very strong making it the easy class.
Maybe if you fight lvl 10 and no CP players. In this meta we have today in which everyone runs Heavy armor and SnB only player you can land those hits are NBs. My average SA hits are around 3.5k and Incap around 6-7k and that is if not blocked, only time you see big hits are against noobish LA magica users and MA NBs, everyone else is tanky as ***. So your statement is total bull...
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BruhItsOver9000✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »Stamblade is the worse class out of all the stam classes at the moment. Why would you nerf them, if anything nerf stam dk and stamplar. I always get confused when people say nerf nightblades. If you are any other stam class and you are losing to a stamblade he is just better than you point blank. The lack of major mending makes nightblade the easiest class to beat.
Major mending doesn't help when incap applies major defile.
Templars can purge it...WOOD ELF MASTER RACE.2 -
Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Every ones counter argument to this beef makes no sense to me. I'm asking for an increase to the cost of an ult. What other ult is that cheap? The templar radiant javelin? I saw people claiming dawnbreaker was to cheap and that's double the cost. Is a small increase to ult cost being the burst damage?
And I honestly don't know if that would mess up magblades.
I might agree to a cost increase if it can be a guaranteed hit. No more shuffling/dodging/blurring out of it.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Isellskooma wrote: »
Nightblades aren't squishy.BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.
Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I'm going to assume that you in fact use a Nightblade, which is why you're doing all you can to defend it from being nerfed. In fact, if I can recall correctly — you said you've killed me numerous times before. And how I'm supposedly "very easy" to kill. The only classes that have managed to kill me repeatedly without too much effort is the Nightblade class. Which would honestly make perfect sense.
Edit: Can we have the cost of Cloak increased with each use within a certain period of time, being as Bolt Escape was treated this way? After all, both of them are "escape skills". They both give a means of providing survivability to each class, should things get too messy. Please have 'proper' balance, and apply the same penalty to Nightblades as you have to Sorcerers. @Wrobel
Putting a penalty on cloak will only hurt mag blades, mag blades don't have good heals and no major mending, sorcs have shields, putting a penalty on bolt escape didn't effect them that much. Mag blades use cloak as an offensive skill, putting a penalty on cloak hurts mag blades and will make them even more weak in pvp.
As for stam blades, we're the weakest stam class in pvp, as i said we don't have major mending and we're squishy.
Also you were on your mag temp when i killed you, so you should not complain when a nightblade killes you.
@Wrobel ignore this thread and don't listen to @Ch4mpTW.
agre with that...as stamina nb most squishy with normal playing as nb, but problem is here most of very good players are playing moslty with nb so all will always complain about nb just because more good players are playing with this class.
when we are going to compare common players this is true, stam nb with very good burst to ganging is the most squishy with this, so if someone see very high damage from nb you can know normally in 1vs1 open fight he will die so fast if are not good player( or have just crap uncommon nonbalanced build with burst and sustain together)0 -
Isellskooma✭✭✭✭
"You can't 1vX good players" -SypherPKthankyourat wrote: »Isellskooma wrote: »BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Isellskooma wrote: »
Nightblades aren't squishy.BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.
Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I mainly run snb on my Nightblade and I main nb but I just started using 2h/bow for the first time on my character that's 9 months old and I never get hit hard at all I don't know how you play but I run 0 into hardy and the avg Suprise attacks I get hit by is like 6k dmg which is normal and nbs do need a nerf. I was doing some 1vX on my 2h/bow and it didn't even feel good cause I put no effort into it just heavy attack incap dead, heavy attack incap dead. Literally no effort at all. And it's not just incap most of the passives are very strong making it the easy class.
I agree somewhat. Nightblades are easy 1vX because they completely destroy bad players and players with bad builds. Also new players don't know how to deal with cloak so you can take advantage of them, but against competent players they are kind of weak. Major mending is the best passive in the game. All stam classes need a nerf but stamblade is last on the chopping block for a nerf. Until something is done about these stamplars who are unkillable with major vitality pots and major mending I think we should leave nightblade alone. The clever alchemist gank builds are a different story but I think it's that set that needs a nerf
I'm pretty sure he's the person who said that but I agree with you on templars doing that but just overall healing it's over the top IMO.
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭thankyourat wrote: »Stamblade is the worse class out of all the stam classes at the moment. Why would you nerf them, if anything nerf stam dk and stamplar. I always get confused when people say nerf nightblades. If you are any other stam class and you are losing to a stamblade he is just better than you point blank. The lack of major mending makes nightblade the easiest class to beat.
Major mending doesn't help when incap applies major defile.
oh yes? with major mending you just nagete this debuff when someone other without this buff have debuff and less heals0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NB skills arent the problem, Velidreth + Viper + Ambush + Incap Combo is...
TBH I would agree with increasing cost of Incap Strike if it would be undodgeable. Less spam, more reliability. But its just me...
How can a combo be a "problem"?? Get real......It´s a mmo, to achieve the best combo of skills/gear/class/race etc is the core in a mmo.0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Needs a nerf = Kills me too much. OP = Thing I don't like dying to.
99% of all nerf threads..2 -
OOJIMMY✭✭✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »Stamblade is the worse class out of all the stam classes at the moment. Why would you nerf them, if anything nerf stam dk and stamplar. I always get confused when people say nerf nightblades. If you are any other stam class and you are losing to a stamblade he is just better than you point blank. The lack of major mending makes nightblade the easiest class to beat.
Major mending doesn't help when incap applies major defile.
Templars can purge it...
I do purge if I survive the initial bust, but like I said with the current cost they get it back extremely quick.Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Needs a nerf = Kills me too much. OP = Thing I don't like dying to.
I don't mind dying to anything. I'm not saying it's to strong as the ability it's self. Like I said it shouldn't be as easy to get.0 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I think that may be the overall goal of the OP.
I don't know where you play, but on EU they are freaking everywhere.
Nightblades are everywhere; no matter the platform. And it's obvious as to why people use them. The ease of use, as well as overtuned performance and skills. Constantly they've dodged and wiggled out of receiving some 'adjustments' and 'fixes'. It's ridiculous. Even from a PVE perspective, Nightblades MUST be toned down. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. Especially when so much content is based around stealthy play-styles (e.g. Imperial City, Thieves Guild, and Dark Brotherhood). Not to mention, it's the recommended class for beginners to start ESO for a reason. As well as class suggested by others to clear VMA with. There's a reason for this.
Please ZOS, for once apply proper balance and 'fix' the Nightblade class. It has gone on for far too long, and your player base has complained about it for months. Tone down the class already. Enough is enough.
Only the people who can't figure out how to deal with them are complaining.
Ease of use: Not really, probably the toughest class to actually master, according to many. Not a lot of room for error.
Not receiving adjustments: Siphoning strikes was considered too OP and changed with IC. Back at the beginning of this year as well as had it's resource return lessened back a few months after launch.
Dark Cloak had the cleanse removed completely from it.
Update 5 reduced damage of attacks coming out of stealth (while this is across the board for all classes, it directly affects the standard type of NB play.)
Update 5 also brought a nerf to healing from Sap Essence, and reduced the duration of fear by 1.5 seconds. Durations of Shadow Image and Veil of blades were decreased as well....
Update 9: reduced duration of heals from Refreshing Path
Update 9: Funnel health healing to friendlies decreased from 2 to 1.
Should I keep going?
You might try knowing about what you're complaining about before typing it.
Um... What? First of all, difficult to master? Haha! Hahahahaha! If it was so difficult to master, then why is it so often recommended to beginners? Also, why is it the most popular class at the moment? I think we both know that there are more Nightblades, than any other class currently. Also, have you been following VMA threads...? Nightblades are always suggested to those who can't beat VMA. Specifically magicka-based Nightblades, with magicka-based Templars being suggested next.
Also those nerfs you listed are hardly nerfs. Hardly. As a magicka-based Sorcerer, I've known nothing but nerfs for the past 6+ months. Once Nigtblades get even half the treatment magicka-based Sorcerers have gotten, then we can talk. Until then? It's like leaves in the wind, whenever I hear about how Nightblades received nerfs. Nightblades don't know what nerfs are. Lol.
Oh, and for the record. Just as an added bonus, my only Flawless Conqueror thus far IS a Nightblade. And while I'm aiming at getting another Flawless Conqueror with my StamDK, I get Flawless Conquerors easily with the Nightblade class. I wonder why that is.
Edited by Ch4mpTW on September 20, 2016 4:44PM4 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭thankyourat wrote: »Stamblade is the worse class out of all the stam classes at the moment. Why would you nerf them, if anything nerf stam dk and stamplar. I always get confused when people say nerf nightblades. If you are any other stam class and you are losing to a stamblade he is just better than you point blank. The lack of major mending makes nightblade the easiest class to beat.
Major mending doesn't help when incap applies major defile.
It basically just cancels out major mending. it's the nightblade counter to not having it. Also templars can just purge it off . Even with defile major mending means that the dk will have the same healing a nightblade always has.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »A nerf to Stamblades means a nerf to Magblades. And Magblades already are both squishy as hell and hit like a wet noodle. They only play for show lately.
Mageblade is low key good. They're like the mDK of 1.6 atm, the best builds are crazy difficult, but there's a ton of outplay potentialBruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Isellskooma wrote: »
Nightblades aren't squishy.BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.
Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.
I'm going to assume that you in fact use a Nightblade, which is why you're doing all you can to defend it from being nerfed. In fact, if I can recall correctly — you said you've killed me numerous times before. And how I'm supposedly "very easy" to kill. The only classes that have managed to kill me repeatedly without too much effort is the Nightblade class. Which would honestly make perfect sense.
Edit: Can we have the cost of Cloak increased with each use within a certain period of time, being as Bolt Escape was treated this way? After all, both of them are "escape skills". They both give a means of providing survivability to each class, should things get too messy. Please have 'proper' balance, and apply the same penalty to Nightblades as you have to Sorcerers. @Wrobel
idk which NBs you know, but cloak isn't for escaping, its for setting up burst combos
Edit: so much misinformation in this thread that its downright comicalEdited by Lexxypwns on September 20, 2016 4:51PM2 -
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✭Enough of these nerf this or nerf that threads. Learn how to play the game and against other classes or find another game to play.2 -
Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Ch4mpTW you're confusing ease of entry with mastery. You may be better suited for it, or better than the average player.
So tell me, are you better, or are you a bad player with an easy mode class for flawless runs?
No, it's not hard for a newbie or someone whose never played an NB to pick one up and go do decently with it overland. Or in groups as a DPS roll. Once you get into the realm of self sufficiency it takes a lot more understanding of how NB skills work with each other and other skill lines than it does for say a Templar or Dragonknight.
Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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