Nightblade nerf.

OOJIMMY · September 2016

It seems that most of the community agrees that stamblades are extremely strong. Be sides the proc build I believe incapacitating strike is the problem. It hits like a truck, stuns, gives extra damage against the target and major defile. That's a ton of benefits to the ult.
The issue I believe is in the 50 cost. With the passive that gives 20 ult it feels like I get incap strikes twice in a ridiculously short time frame. Dawnbreaker is getting a 25% increase from 100 to 125 which I admit is a good idea. I believe incap strike being increased to at least 75 would be a good step in bringing stamblades in line with it messing with magblade

Milvan · September 2016

RLY? NB needs a nerf?

Have your ever seen a stamsorcerer on the battlefield? Sorcerers have super sayan mode and a "blink" escape that also does damage. They have a huge escape and a insane burst.

Don't "nerf NB's" on me please.

catsgomeow · September 2016

no touchy our strike, us squishyblades needs our strikes, you no touchy them or this one will leave dead skeever on your pillow yes?!

linoge63 · September 2016

Agreed, Nerf the StamSorc if any nerfs need happening.

Knootewoot · September 2016

A nerf to Stamblades means a nerf to Magblades. And Magblades already are both squishy as hell and hit like a wet noodle. They only play for show lately.

Dakrana_Thrazvoth · September 2016

Oh someone got ganked many times by a nightblade.

Mayrael · September 2016

NB skills arent the problem, Velidreth + Viper + Ambush + Incap Combo is...
TBH I would agree with increasing cost of Incap Strike if it would be undodgeable. Less spam, more reliability. But its just me...

Ch4mpTW · September 2016

I'd be fine with this.

Unsent.Soul · September 2016

Do people really think about the consequences of the class when they ask for nerfs....?

Nerf threads are a plague, well done OP

DHale · September 2016

Nb certainly do not need a nerf and they are not that strong actually. Weakest of the stam classes tbh. No major mending and only rally and vigor to keep them alive.

Isellskooma · September 2016

No no no, Incap should be buffed... First of all it needs to go through dodge roll and block. It should cost 20 ultimate cause that'll make the passive able to compete against Dks elder dragon passive. Also ambush should stun grant more critical damage and empower your abilitys for 10 seconds.

BruhItsOver9000 · September 2016

Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.

Sigtric · September 2016

Rather than nerfing it, how about learning how to deal with it?

Isellskooma · September 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.

Nightblades aren't squishy.

Ch4mpTW · September 2016

Isellskooma wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.

Nightblades aren't squishy.

Exactly. They are far from squishy. Every single time Nightblades get under the light, and are on the "hot seat", the argument of them being squishy is presented. No. They are not squishy. They're far from squishy.

FloppyTouch · September 2016

Nerf nb nerf Stam nerf vigor nerf shuffle

raidentenshu_ESO · September 2016

Jesus help me! Can we stop nerfing classes already? Enough is enough.

BruhItsOver9000 · September 2016

Isellskooma wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.

Nightblades aren't squishy.

Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.

Alucardo · September 2016

linoge63 wrote: »

Agreed, Nerf the StamSorc if any nerfs need happening.

I've mained a stam sorc since the very beginning, and I never thought I'd live to see a day where someone would say this. I can finally move on from this world.

Alucardo · September 2016

Nerf Stamina Sorcblades

White wabbit · September 2016

Nerf all stamina full stop ! Case closed

Sigtric · September 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.

I think that may be the overall goal of the OP.

Ch4mpTW · September 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Isellskooma wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.

Nightblades aren't squishy.

Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.

I'm going to assume that you in fact use a Nightblade, which is why you're doing all you can to defend it from being nerfed. In fact, if I can recall correctly — you said you've killed me numerous times before. And how I'm supposedly "very easy" to kill. The only classes that have managed to kill me repeatedly without too much effort is the Nightblade class. Which would honestly make perfect sense.

Edit: Can we have the cost of Cloak increased with each use within a certain period of time, being as Bolt Escape was treated this way? After all, both of them are "escape skills". They both give a means of providing survivability to each class, should things get too messy. Please have 'proper' balance, and apply the same penalty to Nightblades as you have to Sorcerers. @Wrobel

Alucardo · September 2016

Sigtric wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.

I think that may be the overall goal of the OP.

I don't know where you play, but on EU they are freaking everywhere.

Sigtric · September 2016

Alucardo wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.

I think that may be the overall goal of the OP.

I don't know where you play, but on EU they are freaking everywhere.

We have a lot of them too.

Just like we have a lot of Templars.

And a lot of stam Sorcs.

susmitds · September 2016

Stamina nightblades are currently the weakest of all stamina classes.

Isellskooma · September 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Isellskooma wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Once they nerf nightblades i quit. We nightblades are squishy, you nerf our burst, the class will die.

Nightblades aren't squishy.

Troll or just a bad dps who can't deal decent damage against a nightblade? I wear 5 impen and have 47 points into crit resit and still get hit hard, dk'and templars have major mending, sorcs have implosion and us nightblades have our strong burst. L2P AND STOP ASKING FOR CLASS NERFS, look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.

I mainly run snb on my Nightblade and I main nb but I just started using 2h/bow for the first time on my character that's 9 months old and I never get hit hard at all I don't know how you play but I run 0 into hardy and the avg Suprise attacks I get hit by is like 6k dmg which is normal and nbs do need a nerf. I was doing some 1vX on my 2h/bow and it didn't even feel good cause I put no effort into it just heavy attack incap dead, heavy attack incap dead. Literally no effort at all. And it's not just incap most of the passives are very strong making it the easy class.

Sigtric · September 2016

susmitds wrote: »

Stamina nightblades are currently the weakest of all stamina classes.

I never really thought about it but... yeah I'd agree with this. On any of my characters, including my own Stam NB, Stam NBs are (usually)the easiest for me to deal with and put down.

Khenarthi · September 2016

Please do not nerf my magblade too

Ch4mpTW · September 2016

Alucardo wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

look at mag sorcs, they got nerfed and you rarely see them anymore in pvp.

I think that may be the overall goal of the OP.

I don't know where you play, but on EU they are freaking everywhere.

Nightblades are everywhere; no matter the platform. And it's obvious as to why people use them. The ease of use, as well as overtuned performance and skills. Constantly they've dodged and wiggled out of receiving some 'adjustments' and 'fixes'. It's ridiculous. Even from a PVE perspective, Nightblades MUST be toned down. It's beyond ridiculous at this point. Especially when so much content is based around stealthy play-styles (e.g. Imperial City, Thieves Guild, and Dark Brotherhood). Not to mention, it's the recommended class for beginners to start ESO for a reason. As well as class suggested by others to clear VMA with. There's a reason for this.

Please ZOS, for once apply proper balance and 'fix' the Nightblade class. It has gone on for far too long, and your player base has complained about it for months. Tone down the class already. Enough is enough.

mobicera · September 2016

Leave nightblades alone, my magblade is my favorite pve class, really could care less about pvp though...
If you want something nerfed than nerf mag sorcs I still see them around in random dungeons now and again

(sarcasm if you can't tell...)