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Make Malestorm weapons sellable in guild stores.
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Travestynox✭✭✭@LegendaryArcher
Something's unfair in an MMO? Big whoop. Yea, please deal with it. You're not the only one dealing with shite rng and shite traits, but you are one of the few vocal ones going on and on about it.Pipe down please, there will never be a token system in this game. At least I hope not.
1. ZOS do not want players to easily get what they want from A DLC, and then quit it. A token system would ensure a lot of players would have their preferred weapons in a week or two, and there's a fair chance many of them would then move on.
2. VMA weapons add a fair bit of power-creep and inbalance as it is. Any dev would be mental to introduce that power to a larger portion of the 5%. Balancing the game after that would be a nightmare.
I do see why you want it though. I just dont agree with you. From my standpoint, a randomness is good (thought it should be better, and the traits should be reworked - for the better). Farming BIS should never be an option, and IMO that's what you're requesting with a token system.0 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No ... even though I will likely never have one.
But then... I'm broke so I would likely never have one anywayTenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
Stoopid_Nwah✭✭✭✭If they ever made Maelstrom weapons available in stores then I would absolutely judge anyone and everyone who bought them and didn't have the stormproof title.
I don't understand why so many want eso to turn into some p2w easymode game. It's already easy enough.0 -
Stoopid_Nwah✭✭✭✭
Were you not around pre-DB that you're so hung up on this? Or just unable to beat it pre-DB? I mean would I love the crappy traits to be removed? Of course, but I don't quite feel the same rage that you seem to.LegendaryArcher wrote: »Travestynox wrote: »No selling, trading, and no token system. It's random, deal with it.
@Travestynox Why do I have to deal with it when people who ran it before DB didn't, and got their weapons handed out the them in awesome traits? Why didn't they have to work for it*?
*work for it = run the arena 760 times on average for the weapon they wanted and 1000+ times with a chance of 20%. Before DB, it took around 30 to 70 runs, depending on your luck, to get every single weapon in Sharpened.
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LegendaryArcher✭✭✭✭Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
Were you not around pre-DB that you're so hung up on this? Or just unable to beat it pre-DB? I mean would I love the crappy traits to be removed? Of course, but I don't quite feel the same rage that you seem to.LegendaryArcher wrote: »Travestynox wrote: »No selling, trading, and no token system. It's random, deal with it.
@Travestynox Why do I have to deal with it when people who ran it before DB didn't, and got their weapons handed out the them in awesome traits? Why didn't they have to work for it*?
*work for it = run the arena 760 times on average for the weapon they wanted and 1000+ times with a chance of 20%. Before DB, it took around 30 to 70 runs, depending on your luck, to get every single weapon in Sharpened.
Off Topic: I was around and ran it exactly 200 times before DB. I was just very very very very very unlucky. I only know three other players that ran it more than I before DB and didn't get it. Another reason (this is my fault though), is that I was running it on a stamina char until TG (~50 runs, which takes more than twice the time of a magicka run). Not sure if you know what exactly that means. To sum it up: 1. Max. DPS less than half of magicka (15k single target if your rotation was perfect, which it isn't without healing), 2. Vigor was only available to players that played PvP actively for a veeeery long time (Alliance Rank 10, which was >10.000.000 AP at that time), 3. No self healing except Rally on 2h, 4. CP system didn't support stam DPS as it does now/no poison morphs.
The fact I didn't want to roll a sorc slowed me down in farming. After I went magicka, I basically went from 30 deaths straight to flawless. Yes, I was unlucky. However, the chances were realistic. The chances of not getting my weapon in another 200 runs were somewhere around 2%. I could live with that.
Maybe it's understandable for you why it enraged me when they added crappy traits even though I didn't have my weapon before DB yet. Another player who ran 500+ times before DB never got his weapon either. He gave up after 1000+ runs later. The other 2 just gave up.
I know many players that started farming too late because they were waiting for a save progress feature. Sucks for them, too.Edited by LegendaryArcher on September 16, 2016 11:11AMPAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates0 -
Stoopid_Nwah✭✭✭✭
I have been around since console launch so I do indeed know what that means.LegendaryArcher wrote: »Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »
Were you not around pre-DB that you're so hung up on this? Or just unable to beat it pre-DB? I mean would I love the crappy traits to be removed? Of course, but I don't quite feel the same rage that you seem to.LegendaryArcher wrote: »Travestynox wrote: »No selling, trading, and no token system. It's random, deal with it.
@Travestynox Why do I have to deal with it when people who ran it before DB didn't, and got their weapons handed out the them in awesome traits? Why didn't they have to work for it*?
*work for it = run the arena 760 times on average for the weapon they wanted and 1000+ times with a chance of 20%. Before DB, it took around 30 to 70 runs, depending on your luck, to get every single weapon in Sharpened.
Off Topic: I was around and ran it exactly 200 times before DB. I was just very very very very very unlucky. I only know three other players that ran it more than I before DB and didn't get it. Another reason (this is my fault though), is that I was running it on a stamina char until TG (~50 runs, which takes more than twice the time of a magicka run). Not sure if you know what exactly that means. To sum it up: 1. Max. DPS less than half of magicka (15k single target if your rotation was perfect, which it isn't without healing), 2. Vigor was only available to players that played PvP actively for a veeeery long time (Alliance Rank 10, which was >10.000.000 AP at that time), 3. No self healing except Rally on 2h, 4. CP system didn't support stam DPS as it does now/no poison morphs.
The fact I didn't want to roll a sorc slowed me down in farming. After I went magicka, I basically went from 30 deaths straight to flawless. Yes, I was unlucky. However, the chances were realistic. The chances of not getting my weapon in another 200 runs were somewhere around 2%. I could live with that.
Maybe it's understandable for you why it enraged me when they added crappy traits even though I didn't have my weapon before DB yet. Another player who ran 500+ times before DB never got his weapon either. He gave up after 1000+ runs later. The other 2 just gave up.
I know many players that started farming too late because they were waiting for a save progress feature. Sucks for them, too.
The fact that you ran it so many times pre DB and didn't get your weapon/s, just makes me even more confused as to why you're bashing others who did, to the extent you're saying they don't have a right to an opinion and are scrubs.
I agree that it sucks that traits like charged made their way into the loot tables, but everyone who goes through maelstrom has to go through the same lagfilled arena.
It sounds like you are just extremely bitter (and I can understand why after so many runs), but I think it is making you come off more rude than constructive.
I strongly disagree with maelstrom weapons being sold, but I am okay with them being tradeable with others who have completed vma, a removal of crappy traits again, or a token system that allows a trait change on an already owned maelstrom weapon.
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Memnock✭✭✭To all the people that are opposed to obtaining the weapons from malestrom in another way other that bashing your head against a wall i would like to say this:
I have no luck with RNG drops , to give you an example i farmed the skoria helm for a month and a half and i still did not get a divines one and in the end the only way i got to complete that set was to buy an infused one from the cirodil vendor.
I completed vMSA 1 time just to get the title ( no luck on a staff , got another thing , can't remember what since i really didn't care about anything else) , but that was it for me , since i really want to spend my time playing with other people in this game. I ran Dragon Star arena for the master weapons after they got bumped up to cp 160 to get the stuff that i wanted , but again , that content is designed with a group in mind so the mind numbing boredom of farming those things was cut in half by having company while doing that thing.
I am already doing veteran content and me along with my guild mates are progressing through vMOL as well , so the weapons are not 100% needed for the content , but the issue is that having the best weapons in the game barred by RNG, diminishes the pleasure of running that particular content and to a small degree hinders the smoothness of content runs that people would have otherwise.
If the there was a guaranteed way to get what you want through endless grinding of that place , like a token system or some sort of currency that could be exchanged to what you wanted at the end of the dungeon , then i would be super happy to do it over and over again , but with a system that is based on luck ( and with my complete lack of this quality ), i do not see myself going in there ever again and having the best weapons in the game randomly drop just for the select few who are willing to grind their brains out, is not fair.
So as far as i can see , there are 4 solutions to resolving this problem :
1) make a currency system similar to the stuff that drops in ICP and WGT , gather 150 or 200 or whatever amount the devs deem necessary and once you have that , you go to a guy and get your weapon
2) make a token system where the last boss this the dungeon drops an item that you can exchange it to what weapon you wish for
3) redesign the content and make it a 4 man raid just like dragonstar arena , where you can keep your current RNG dependent system in place
4) leave the current system in place , but make all the weapons BOE and allow the farmers to profit from their work and people that don't want to grind , get their thing as well.
In any case , the system as it is now , can't be left alone , vMSA is a single player experience in an MMO , that provides what are currently the best weapons in the game and is based on a system that forces players to do content that just aggravates all sides of the argument to some degree.
Solo content in a mmo isn´t an issue. It adds some variety to the game. Of those suggestions you make #1 and #2 (which is somewhat similiar to me) are good suggestions but need to be implimented in the right way. #3: Already have DSA, no need for another copy. #4 Just no
Solo content in a MMO is definitely not the issue , having , arguably , the best weapons in the game , blocked by said solo content in said MMO makes no sense to me.
Also my 1 and 2 suggestions are similar but different methods to get the stuff that you need , with the currency system taking a longer time to grind that the second one.
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LegendaryArcher wrote: »Travestynox wrote: »No selling, trading, and no token system. It's random, deal with it.
@Travestynox Why do I have to deal with it when people who ran it before DB didn't, and got their weapons handed out the them in awesome traits? Why didn't they have to work for it*?
*work for it = run the arena 760 times on average for the weapon they wanted and 1000+ times with a chance of 20%. Before DB, it took around 30 to 70 runs, depending on your luck, to get every single weapon in Sharpened.
Stop with this "pre DB" ***.......The rng was terrible then and it´s terrbile now.....0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To all the people that are opposed to obtaining the weapons from malestrom in another way other that bashing your head against a wall i would like to say this:
I have no luck with RNG drops , to give you an example i farmed the skoria helm for a month and a half and i still did not get a divines one and in the end the only way i got to complete that set was to buy an infused one from the cirodil vendor.
I completed vMSA 1 time just to get the title ( no luck on a staff , got another thing , can't remember what since i really didn't care about anything else) , but that was it for me , since i really want to spend my time playing with other people in this game. I ran Dragon Star arena for the master weapons after they got bumped up to cp 160 to get the stuff that i wanted , but again , that content is designed with a group in mind so the mind numbing boredom of farming those things was cut in half by having company while doing that thing.
I am already doing veteran content and me along with my guild mates are progressing through vMOL as well , so the weapons are not 100% needed for the content , but the issue is that having the best weapons in the game barred by RNG, diminishes the pleasure of running that particular content and to a small degree hinders the smoothness of content runs that people would have otherwise.
If the there was a guaranteed way to get what you want through endless grinding of that place , like a token system or some sort of currency that could be exchanged to what you wanted at the end of the dungeon , then i would be super happy to do it over and over again , but with a system that is based on luck ( and with my complete lack of this quality ), i do not see myself going in there ever again and having the best weapons in the game randomly drop just for the select few who are willing to grind their brains out, is not fair.
So as far as i can see , there are 4 solutions to resolving this problem :
1) make a currency system similar to the stuff that drops in ICP and WGT , gather 150 or 200 or whatever amount the devs deem necessary and once you have that , you go to a guy and get your weapon
2) make a token system where the last boss this the dungeon drops an item that you can exchange it to what weapon you wish for
3) redesign the content and make it a 4 man raid just like dragonstar arena , where you can keep your current RNG dependent system in place
4) leave the current system in place , but make all the weapons BOE and allow the farmers to profit from their work and people that don't want to grind , get their thing as well.
In any case , the system as it is now , can't be left alone , vMSA is a single player experience in an MMO , that provides what are currently the best weapons in the game and is based on a system that forces players to do content that just aggravates all sides of the argument to some degree.
Solo content in a mmo isn´t an issue. It adds some variety to the game. Of those suggestions you make #1 and #2 (which is somewhat similiar to me) are good suggestions but need to be implimented in the right way. #3: Already have DSA, no need for another copy. #4 Just no
Solo content in a MMO is definitely not the issue , having , arguably , the best weapons in the game , blocked by said solo content in said MMO makes no sense to me.
Also my 1 and 2 suggestions are similar but different methods to get the stuff that you need , with the currency system taking a longer time to grind that the second one.
"Blocked" would be that you can´t access it IMO. Anyone can run vMSA, but will be more or less succesfull with it. Fix the RNG and Maelstrom will be fine.0 -
Eleusian✭✭✭Why do Monopoly players care about what the best items are. Its not like Maelstrom weapons will matter for your to get carried through raids so you can resell the drops in your mournhold traders.PS4 NA0 -
The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭xskinzcity wrote: »What is malestorm?
I guess the opposite of femalestorm. Those with a girlfriend or wife know which of the two is worse.
Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
Ride the paranoia | All life is pain | Only the grave is real0 -
Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭LegendaryArcher wrote: »Travestynox wrote: »No selling, trading, and no token system. It's random, deal with it.
@Travestynox Why do I have to deal with it when people who ran it before DB didn't, and got their weapons handed out the them in awesome traits? Why didn't they have to work for it*?
*work for it = run the arena 760 times on average for the weapon they wanted and 1000+ times with a chance of 20%. Before DB, it took around 30 to 70 runs, depending on your luck, to get every single weapon in Sharpened.
Stop with this "pre DB" ***.......The rng was terrible then and it´s terrbile now.....
No it wasn't.0