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  • Loralai_907
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    I'm in Alaska and I can't get on until late most nights, so I already normally only go farming when its quiet in game. I never farm in the middle of the day on the weekends because what I can gather in the same amount of time is super lame when its much busier. While I don't like people that steal nodes right out from under me (rarely happens) if I see someone going in a direction collecting mats I immediately go off another way as to TRY and not be fighting over resources.
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  • Elsonso
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    I would not assume that they are always being egocentric. They might be, but maybe not.

    Some people just go from node to node as fast as they can and are focused in that next node. Don't assume that they see you. Even if they do, don't assume they care what you are doing.

    Most people forget that there is a noticeable delay between what you do and what people see you do. Depending on total latency (you to server, server processing, server to the other person) a good half second may separate your actions from what they see. If you are using something like bolt escape or a max speed boost, you can be there almost before they see you leave.



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  • Eleusian
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    Currently between the 3 factions there are 3 maps each to farm top tier mats ( 9 maps ) After one Tamriel every map will scale so unless they nerf spawns it should be much better for mat farming.
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  • Necrelios
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    It's more like "Haha, beat you to it." Everything is a competiton for some people.
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  • FortheloveofKrist
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    My reaction after reading the posts on this thread...

    [SNIP]

    Edited for Profanity
    Edited by ZOS_PeterT on September 16, 2016 8:10PM
  • Mojmir
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    let's all form a line and take a number.lol
  • Hluill
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    To me, it's common courtesy. I have cleared mobs from nodes and chests only to have someone else run in and harvest. I find the lack of consideration to be quite rude. It is really offensive how self-centered people can be.

    Yet, it does work both ways. Cut me off? Okay, I am offended, but I can still be gracious. There are more nodes where that one came from.
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  • Asardes
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    The resources are not owned, thus
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  • phairdon
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    Consider myself lucky. Not once, has anything like you describe occurred while collecting nodes. Not bad for close to 2.5 years of game play.
    I'll just go to Cyrodiil for egocentric players.
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  • kaliduss
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    life is full of jerks. here and there, everywhere, and they find a lot of ways to justify it. I choose not to be like them, and makes me happy. Dont fall for their "justifications" to be an ***.
  • smacx250
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    phairdon wrote: »
    Consider myself lucky. Not once, has anything like you describe occurred while collecting nodes. Not bad for close to 2.5 years of game play.
    I'll just go to Cyrodiil for egocentric players.
    I once had the extreme opposite - player followed me around as I was farming, and then would sprint ahead of me as I approached a node to take it before me. I'd go off in another direction, only to be followed and have it repeat, again and again. After 5-10min of that (I kept waiting for them to get bored and bug-off but they didn't), I went to a wayshrine and left. That was just pure and simple griefing though.
  • ManDraKE
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    stealing nodes from others is the only fun part about farming materials, otherwise is a painful and boring experience
  • phairdon
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    smacx250 wrote: »
    phairdon wrote: »
    Consider myself lucky. Not once, has anything like you describe occurred while collecting nodes. Not bad for close to 2.5 years of game play.
    I'll just go to Cyrodiil for egocentric players.
    I once had the extreme opposite - player followed me around as I was farming, and then would sprint ahead of me as I approached a node to take it before me. I'd go off in another direction, only to be followed and have it repeat, again and again. After 5-10min of that (I kept waiting for them to get bored and bug-off but they didn't), I went to a wayshrine and left. That was just pure and simple griefing though.

    Griefing. Plain weird if you ask me.
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  • CombatPrayer
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    I believe if there was an option to kill a toon to keep it from getting a mat, there would be a crime was of unprecedented proportion.
  • Runs
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    "I saw it but someone else got to it first, it should have been mine" Is exactly how I read this.

    I was originally thinking the post was going to be about getting hate whispers from other farmer saying you were in "their area", or that people were taking nodes while you were fighting mobs for said nodes.

    I've heard some crap in zone chat about node thieves, but it really hasn't happened to me(or if it has it wasn't a big enough deal for me to even remember it). A one sided argument I have seen in gold zone kind of amused me. The complainer was following someone who was only taking the stuff he wanted from the nodes and leaving the useless stuff. The amusing part was when he mentioned he was reporting the guy each time he left trash in a node. Amusing and sad really, this kind of abuse of the report feature is probably why it takes forever to get ZOS to take reports seriously.

    Typically if I see someone near me, I won't bother killing anything for the nodes they are close to and if I see us going towards same node most the time I turn and go a different way. Even in Craglorn back when I did a lot of node farming, it wasn't as bad as most make it out to be. There are plenty of nodes and the respawn rate isn't bad.
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  • Humatiel
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    Alhatariel wrote: »
    Hi! :-)

    Just wanted to ventilate my frustration here about the behaviour of some players. When I gather mats they are there, trying to get as quick as possible to the ore, flowers or other mats which I was on my way to. Gathering mats at the Gold Coast is very frustrating because of the behaviour of many other players. Even when they see I am on my way to get ore, they sprint so they can reach it before me. When I see another player is on her/his way towards ore or flowerd or wood I back up to give the other space to take it. Also gathering alchemy reagents in The Hollow City show that kind of egocentric players. And all that behaviour in spite of that there is anough for all of us!
    I have been in many other games and there are `the egocentric players` also present.

    Definition on Wikipedia of an egocentric: A person who is egocentric believes they are the center of attention, like a narcissist, but does not receive gratification by one's own admiration.

    So I just decided that I shall only gather mats for crafting during the night when it is quiet, it really blows my day to be confronted with this kind of childish players.

    Ala

    While I wouldn't begin to discuss RL age on here what your describing is how the vast majority of adults act, and for good reason. Those that arent ambitious tend to get left behind, more so then ever in today's work force and certainly here where every good guild has such competitive requirements to gain entrance to and stay in.

    If you want to say let someone cross the street when its not "technically" time (and assuming you have no cars behind you) then hey good on you, but that behavior doesn't then automatically transcend into saying "hey I dont need that promotion and pay raise you go ahead and take it". I for instance wouldn't give up my spot on a raiding team because Pug Force One decided to take five hours in ICP and "felt" I was elitist for leaving. The world (and by reflection games) revolve around those that place themselves first, and as long as your being reasonably civil and not harming anyone I don't see a problem with that.
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  • Artis
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    Sounds like L2P issue. Use rapids :)
  • smacx250
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    Humatiel wrote: »
    Alhatariel wrote: »
    Hi! :-)

    Just wanted to ventilate my frustration here about the behaviour of some players. When I gather mats they are there, trying to get as quick as possible to the ore, flowers or other mats which I was on my way to. Gathering mats at the Gold Coast is very frustrating because of the behaviour of many other players. Even when they see I am on my way to get ore, they sprint so they can reach it before me. When I see another player is on her/his way towards ore or flowerd or wood I back up to give the other space to take it. Also gathering alchemy reagents in The Hollow City show that kind of egocentric players. And all that behaviour in spite of that there is anough for all of us!
    I have been in many other games and there are `the egocentric players` also present.

    Definition on Wikipedia of an egocentric: A person who is egocentric believes they are the center of attention, like a narcissist, but does not receive gratification by one's own admiration.

    So I just decided that I shall only gather mats for crafting during the night when it is quiet, it really blows my day to be confronted with this kind of childish players.

    Ala

    While I wouldn't begin to discuss RL age on here what your describing is how the vast majority of adults act, and for good reason. Those that arent ambitious tend to get left behind, more so then ever in today's work force and certainly here where every good guild has such competitive requirements to gain entrance to and stay in.

    If you want to say let someone cross the street when its not "technically" time (and assuming you have no cars behind you) then hey good on you, but that behavior doesn't then automatically transcend into saying "hey I dont need that promotion and pay raise you go ahead and take it". I for instance wouldn't give up my spot on a raiding team because Pug Force One decided to take five hours in ICP and "felt" I was elitist for leaving. The world (and by reflection games) revolve around those that place themselves first, and as long as your being reasonably civil and not harming anyone I don't see a problem with that.
    Wow! I can say that I haven't ever been "ambitions" - just loved what I did and in large part because of that, been good at it! And as such was successful enough to ease into "semi-retirement" (I love what I do so I still take some jobs even though I don't need the income) in my mid 40's. Ambition is certainly not the only way to succeed - and I'd argue not the best way. I certainly never tried to push anyone else down or aside, and actively took my time to pull others up for the benefit of all. And, further, to make this statement in regard to node farming? Really?
  • kargen27
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    The fun ones are the ones in Craglorn that will snipe the mats while you fight the mob knowing full well the reason you are on that mob is to get the goodies. For a while I would just wait by a mob with no goodies near by them for an unsuspecting evil gatherer to come by. While he was still a ways off I would start the fight and sure enough here he would come a running, looking for something to snipe. Fun to watch them frantically look around for some flower or rock.

    Wouldn't be so bad if they would at least join in on the fight then we could both scramble to try and get the flower.

    Even more fun is the people that think closing the anchors at the dolmens somehow does something for them so they try and sneak in and grab them instead of helping the fight.
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  • Stoopid_Nwah
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    Mats are not on a "first-saw, first-serve" basis. Of course people are going to race you to mats, temps are selling for 20k+. Doesn't make them egocentric, just makes you slower than they are :lol:.
  • mb10
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    Only one way to fix this...

    Put major expedition on your bar and find a way to get minor too. Dog eat dog world on ESO.
  • Publius_Scipio
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    Think things are bad now? Wait until they introduce CP 180 nodes...

    Come next patch CP160 is staying level cap right? Rubedite still king of the mats?
  • Humatiel
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    smacx250 wrote: »
    Humatiel wrote: »
    Alhatariel wrote: »
    Hi! :-)

    Just wanted to ventilate my frustration here about the behaviour of some players. When I gather mats they are there, trying to get as quick as possible to the ore, flowers or other mats which I was on my way to. Gathering mats at the Gold Coast is very frustrating because of the behaviour of many other players. Even when they see I am on my way to get ore, they sprint so they can reach it before me. When I see another player is on her/his way towards ore or flowerd or wood I back up to give the other space to take it. Also gathering alchemy reagents in The Hollow City show that kind of egocentric players. And all that behaviour in spite of that there is anough for all of us!
    I have been in many other games and there are `the egocentric players` also present.

    Definition on Wikipedia of an egocentric: A person who is egocentric believes they are the center of attention, like a narcissist, but does not receive gratification by one's own admiration.

    So I just decided that I shall only gather mats for crafting during the night when it is quiet, it really blows my day to be confronted with this kind of childish players.

    Ala

    While I wouldn't begin to discuss RL age on here what your describing is how the vast majority of adults act, and for good reason. Those that arent ambitious tend to get left behind, more so then ever in today's work force and certainly here where every good guild has such competitive requirements to gain entrance to and stay in.

    If you want to say let someone cross the street when its not "technically" time (and assuming you have no cars behind you) then hey good on you, but that behavior doesn't then automatically transcend into saying "hey I dont need that promotion and pay raise you go ahead and take it". I for instance wouldn't give up my spot on a raiding team because Pug Force One decided to take five hours in ICP and "felt" I was elitist for leaving. The world (and by reflection games) revolve around those that place themselves first, and as long as your being reasonably civil and not harming anyone I don't see a problem with that.
    Wow! I can say that I haven't ever been "ambitions" - just loved what I did and in large part because of that, been good at it! And as such was successful enough to ease into "semi-retirement" (I love what I do so I still take some jobs even though I don't need the income) in my mid 40's. Ambition is certainly not the only way to succeed - and I'd argue not the best way. I certainly never tried to push anyone else down or aside, and actively took my time to pull others up for the benefit of all. And, further, to make this statement in regard to node farming? Really?

    The OPs problem isn't node farming, node farming is just how its being displayed because thats the playstyle. With less then half of all college grads getting a job strictly in there degree field in the first year out of college I respectfully disagree about ambition not being relevant.

    Besides, there is a difference in being better then someone and striving to beat them and "pushing anyone down". Unless of course you look at any type of competitive game-play as us vs them then I suppose in every instance its an "us vs them".
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  • Vipstaakki
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    You got to be faster than them and beat them to the resource node. Problem solved.
  • smacx250
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    Humatiel wrote: »
    smacx250 wrote: »
    Humatiel wrote: »
    Alhatariel wrote: »
    Hi! :-)

    Just wanted to ventilate my frustration here about the behaviour of some players. When I gather mats they are there, trying to get as quick as possible to the ore, flowers or other mats which I was on my way to. Gathering mats at the Gold Coast is very frustrating because of the behaviour of many other players. Even when they see I am on my way to get ore, they sprint so they can reach it before me. When I see another player is on her/his way towards ore or flowerd or wood I back up to give the other space to take it. Also gathering alchemy reagents in The Hollow City show that kind of egocentric players. And all that behaviour in spite of that there is anough for all of us!
    I have been in many other games and there are `the egocentric players` also present.

    Definition on Wikipedia of an egocentric: A person who is egocentric believes they are the center of attention, like a narcissist, but does not receive gratification by one's own admiration.

    So I just decided that I shall only gather mats for crafting during the night when it is quiet, it really blows my day to be confronted with this kind of childish players.

    Ala

    While I wouldn't begin to discuss RL age on here what your describing is how the vast majority of adults act, and for good reason. Those that arent ambitious tend to get left behind, more so then ever in today's work force and certainly here where every good guild has such competitive requirements to gain entrance to and stay in.

    If you want to say let someone cross the street when its not "technically" time (and assuming you have no cars behind you) then hey good on you, but that behavior doesn't then automatically transcend into saying "hey I dont need that promotion and pay raise you go ahead and take it". I for instance wouldn't give up my spot on a raiding team because Pug Force One decided to take five hours in ICP and "felt" I was elitist for leaving. The world (and by reflection games) revolve around those that place themselves first, and as long as your being reasonably civil and not harming anyone I don't see a problem with that.
    Wow! I can say that I haven't ever been "ambitions" - just loved what I did and in large part because of that, been good at it! And as such was successful enough to ease into "semi-retirement" (I love what I do so I still take some jobs even though I don't need the income) in my mid 40's. Ambition is certainly not the only way to succeed - and I'd argue not the best way. I certainly never tried to push anyone else down or aside, and actively took my time to pull others up for the benefit of all. And, further, to make this statement in regard to node farming? Really?

    The OPs problem isn't node farming, node farming is just how its being displayed because thats the playstyle. With less then half of all college grads getting a job strictly in there degree field in the first year out of college I respectfully disagree about ambition not being relevant.

    Besides, there is a difference in being better then someone and striving to beat them and "pushing anyone down". Unless of course you look at any type of competitive game-play as us vs them then I suppose in every instance its an "us vs them".
    Ambitious:
    "1. an earnest desire for some type of achievement or distinction, as power, honor, fame, or wealth, and the willingness to strive for its attainment"

    Better:
    " 1. of superior quality or excellence"

    The two are not in any way synonymous. Yet you present "ambitous" as "better", and not as striving for an ends. Ambition simply isn't what you say it is. And regardless of if your stated statistic of college grads is true or not, it says nothing about the absolute success of those that are "ambitious" vs that those who do what they do because they love it. In my experience, on average, the ambitious ones aren't the ones that "make it" - the ones who do the job for the job itself and not some ends are those that actually succeed. I've been involved in the hiring of lots of people, and I can tell you that "ambition" has never been a positive attribute named by anyone on any hiring team I've been involved with. In large, it is how good the person currently is, how well they can work with others on the team, and what their prospect for growth within the organization is (skill improvement and likelihood of staying with the group vs flipping for a position elsewhere).

  • KingYogi415
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    The irony in this post is strong!
  • PurifedBladez
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    I'm more concerned about the dude that just scammed me for 75k lol.

    I just need to pay more attention.. never again lol.

    But still that guys just a huge troll.
    Edited by PurifedBladez on September 17, 2016 5:13AM
  • Volrion
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    Are you trolling?
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Happened with me @ Craglorn and made me so frustated.

    I am not farming mats now, just picking up anything found across my way..
  • Hluill
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    Humatiel wrote: »
    Alhatariel wrote: »
    Hi! :-)

    Just wanted to ventilate my frustration here about the behaviour of some players. When I gather mats they are there, trying to get as quick as possible to the ore, flowers or other mats which I was on my way to. Gathering mats at the Gold Coast is very frustrating because of the behaviour of many other players. Even when they see I am on my way to get ore, they sprint so they can reach it before me. When I see another player is on her/his way towards ore or flowerd or wood I back up to give the other space to take it. Also gathering alchemy reagents in The Hollow City show that kind of egocentric players. And all that behaviour in spite of that there is anough for all of us!
    I have been in many other games and there are `the egocentric players` also present.

    Definition on Wikipedia of an egocentric: A person who is egocentric believes they are the center of attention, like a narcissist, but does not receive gratification by one's own admiration.

    So I just decided that I shall only gather mats for crafting during the night when it is quiet, it really blows my day to be confronted with this kind of childish players.

    Ala

    While I wouldn't begin to discuss RL age on here what your describing is how the vast majority of adults act, and for good reason. Those that arent ambitious tend to get left behind, more so then ever in today's work force and certainly here where every good guild has such competitive requirements to gain entrance to and stay in.

    If you want to say let someone cross the street when its not "technically" time (and assuming you have no cars behind you) then hey good on you, but that behavior doesn't then automatically transcend into saying "hey I dont need that promotion and pay raise you go ahead and take it". I for instance wouldn't give up my spot on a raiding team because Pug Force One decided to take five hours in ICP and "felt" I was elitist for leaving. The world (and by reflection games) revolve around those that place themselves first, and as long as your being reasonably civil and not harming anyone I don't see a problem with that.

    Actually, selflessness and sacrifice don't count for much if one never sacrifices something of value.

    Stopping for a pedestrian: pleasant and courteous.

    Letting someone else have the higher pay even though I consider myself "better": Well, the strong are supposed to protect the weak, not exploit them.

    One of the problems in the world today, neh? We think our needs outweigh everyone else's. What's really funny it that most of the time we don't even really know what we really need...

    So, sprint to those nodes, cut me off in traffic, take the "better" job. My needs are met by other things.
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