Is it possible to gain HIGH DPS with all crafted gear?

raidentenshu_ESO · September 2016

Or has the crafted skill gone extinct and no longer useful since now you can just farm for your gear?

AzraelKrieg · September 2016

I would assume so considering everyone in trials uses Twice Born Star and that's crafted.

Rosveen · September 2016

High DPS? Yes. The best possible DPS? No. Most people use a combination of crafted + looted gear.

daroule1982 · September 2016

It can be done. I do it all the time. I only use 4 of each of two sets, mix them match them, buff them, and walla! You got deeps.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

It's a 50-50 split. You're gonna need a monster set mixed in there though. I run 5 crafted and 5 dropped and a monster helm. My DPS is absurd.

That said, you're capping your DPS depending on the trait and enchants you use. Can't have impen and get max DPS for example.

Destruent · September 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

It's a 50-50 split. You're gonna need a monster set mixed in there though. I run 5 crafted and 5 dropped and a monster helm. My DPS is absurd.

That said, you're capping your DPS depending on the trait and enchants you use. Can't have impen and get max DPS for example.

There was a templar build with 5x TBS, 4x Julianos, 3x WP online some patches ago which provided really good DPS. This should work now, too. Maybe swap willpower with aether/moondancer if possible.

idk · September 2016

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

I would assume so considering everyone in trials uses Twice Born Star and that's crafted.

TBS, Julliano and NMG. Though there are sets that drop that are desirable for certain builds and of course obtaining Minor Slayer from VO/Aether/MD/Alkosh is a plus.

Destruent wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

It's a 50-50 split. You're gonna need a monster set mixed in there though. I run 5 crafted and 5 dropped and a monster helm. My DPS is absurd.

That said, you're capping your DPS depending on the trait and enchants you use. Can't have impen and get max DPS for example.

There was a templar build with 5x TBS, 4x Julianos, 3x WP online some patches ago which provided really good DPS. This should work now, too. Maybe swap willpower with aether/moondancer if possible.

Maybe swap 3 Julliano for 3 Aether/MD (4 pieces if that is what they have in Julliano) and keep the willpower. There is no set bonus easy to get that offers the spell damage and max magika willpower offers.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · September 2016

Depends on what you mean by High. I can do 16-20k with all crafted gear including weapons, on most my stam and magicka toons. And i am by no means an expert on animation canceling or rotation. Heck most the time i forget i even have an ultimate. Anyway, From what i have seen running dungeons pugs this is very high. From what i have seen running vet trials it is fairly low.

Bryanonymous · September 2016

I use 5 Julianos, 2 Torug's Pact, 1 Kena helm, 3 willpower. Is it the best? I don't care. Best I can craft. :P The helm was too good to pass on. Before I got it, I used 3 Magnus.

Destruent · September 2016

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

It's a 50-50 split. You're gonna need a monster set mixed in there though. I run 5 crafted and 5 dropped and a monster helm. My DPS is absurd.

That said, you're capping your DPS depending on the trait and enchants you use. Can't have impen and get max DPS for example.

There was a templar build with 5x TBS, 4x Julianos, 3x WP online some patches ago which provided really good DPS. This should work now, too. Maybe swap willpower with aether/moondancer if possible.

Maybe swap 3 Julliano for 3 Aether/MD (4 pieces if that is what they have in Julliano) and keep the willpower. There is no set bonus easy to get that offers the spell damage and max magika willpower offers.

Sure, i just wanted to keep everything crafted which can be crafted to better match OP's question.

idk · September 2016

Destruent wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

It's a 50-50 split. You're gonna need a monster set mixed in there though. I run 5 crafted and 5 dropped and a monster helm. My DPS is absurd.

That said, you're capping your DPS depending on the trait and enchants you use. Can't have impen and get max DPS for example.

There was a templar build with 5x TBS, 4x Julianos, 3x WP online some patches ago which provided really good DPS. This should work now, too. Maybe swap willpower with aether/moondancer if possible.

Maybe swap 3 Julliano for 3 Aether/MD (4 pieces if that is what they have in Julliano) and keep the willpower. There is no set bonus easy to get that offers the spell damage and max magika willpower offers.

Sure, i just wanted to keep everything crafted which can be crafted to better match OP's question.

He did not say he wanted to run all crafted but wondered if crafted gear was useless, which I think the replies overall demonstrate crafting is still relevant.

Destruent · September 2016

The question was

Is it possible to gain HIGH DPS with all crafted gear?

So i think, he wanted all parts to be crafted ^^

Zerok · September 2016

Yes it's possible, but you will still need Agility or Willpower jewelry because these cannot be crafted.

You will want a setup like this to maximize the bonuses you can get:
5x Set 1
4x Set 2

Eventually you will get Monster sets, and you will want to swap them with 2 pieces from Set 2. Therefore, I would not upgrade Set 2 to gold.

Deceptive_Yoshi · September 2016

Twice Born Star is almost required if you're not wearing a set that's buffing or debuffing for the good of the group. But you can definately wear a 3-4 piece magnus or night mother. From there buy yourself a willpower or agility set for jewelry and you'll be pulling high dps.

DocFrost72 · September 2016

Like anything else in life, the best mix is somewhere in the middle. Could you pull high dps in nothing but crafted gear? Yes. Rotation and skill still matter a lot.

idk · September 2016

Destruent wrote: »

The question was

Is it possible to gain HIGH DPS with all crafted gear?

So i think, he wanted all parts to be crafted ^^

Whatever, idrc. You gave him an almost all crafted setup (as much crafted as possible). I provided a slightly improved setup since the only reason he would be wearing gear like this would be for dungeons/trials.

I will provide an even better setup. Chsnge the willpower rings to aether rings for best choice or moondancer for second best choice if your doing dungeons or trials. Off overworld the willpower is best, but any dungeon having minor slayer is an increase to damage.

bryanhaas · September 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Or has the crafted skill gone extinct and no longer useful since now you can just farm for your gear?

You could go Clever alc and Julianos both full set if you have one bar where you dual wield. I do that on my Sorc and can 5700 spell power and 42k max mag. My frag crits are anywhere from 36k to 46k outside of trials, in trials with everyone's buffs I have hit 62k on a frag crit. Of course you want willpower jewelry in arcane. Btw my non crit frags top out at 26k.

Bouldercleave · September 2016

I use all crafted gear (except for jewelry, but that is a different pain point topic for me) and I'm perfectly happy with my DPS and survivability. That being said, I don't dungeon or trial grind, and I would NEVER be able to beat vMSA with my build.

I pretty much guarantee that I would be either berated or kicked from a hardcore group though. I would be subpar for the elites.

In the end I play for ME, and prefer to roll in gear I made as it gives me personal satisfaction to stay alive in something that I created. I can sustain about 18k DPS with burst damage just under 30k in just crafted gear and weapons, with food and potions that I made as well.

100% self sufficient

driosketch · September 2016

Certainly, at the very least you still need a jewelry drop set like Agility or Willpower, since you can't craft for those slots. I think most players use a combination.

Destruent · September 2016

bryanhaas wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Or has the crafted skill gone extinct and no longer useful since now you can just farm for your gear?

You could go Clever alc and Julianos both full set if you have one bar where you dual wield. I do that on my Sorc and can 5700 spell power and 42k max mag. My frag crits are anywhere from 36k to 46k outside of trials, in trials with everyone's buffs I have hit 62k on a frag crit. Of course you want willpower jewelry in arcane. Btw my non crit frags top out at 26k.

Never use alchemist in trials/dungeons...worst set ever since ZOS upscaled everything. It may be viable for dungeons until next patch but yeah...things die anyway...

Danksta · September 2016

My khajiit stam sorc has 5 TBS and 4 NM with agility.

max stam- 36k
wep dmg- 2900
crit-80%
stam recovery- 1300

That's with only food buffs and bound armaments.

This isn't obviously pulling top tier DPS, but it's good enough for everything besides maybe vet trials.

dodgehopper_ESO · September 2016

I would not care, except for the fact the monster helms mean that we have to throw style out the window. If someone wants to have armor that matches cohesively, the basic answer is 'tough ***'. I really wish we could use a style stone and morph equipment to a different style at the very least.

Kyye · September 2016

Deceptive_Yoshi wrote: »

Twice Born Star is almost required if you're not wearing a set that's buffing or debuffing for the good of the group. But you can definately wear a 3-4 piece magnus or night mother. From there buy yourself a willpower or agility set for jewelry and you'll be pulling high dps.

As stated here. I've heard that not many people run NMG which is a great utility set for group play since the debuff stacks with other armor debuffs.

I_killed_Vivec · September 2016

The problem will always be jewellery.

Until we can craft jewellery we will always need drops, in which case it makes sense to start looking at dropped sets.

Then there's the monster sets, and the special weapons.

So while you can be reasonable you can never be that good.

Asardes · September 2016

Magicka: 5 x Twice Born Star/Julianos + 3/4 Torug's
Stamina: 5 x Twice Born Star / Night Mother's Gaze / Hunding's Rage + 3/4 Night Mother's Gaze (if the 5 piece is other set)

disintegr8 · September 2016

I am in the middle of respeccing my Khajit stamblade but haven't remade armour yet and already have 3300 weapon damage with 60% crit with gear I have made, including weapons. He is wearing 5pc Hundigs, 4pc NM (DW), purple agility jewelry with weapon damage enchants.

I still need to remake armour - either TBS or Hundigs - with better traits for PVE (currently Impen for PVP) and switch mundus stones (currently Warrior) and the Agility set is only health trait and not stamina.

I have 6 characters, 3 dps, 2 tanks, 1 healer - and they are all using at least a 5pc crafted set that I made with some using monster sets. So I'd say yes, crafted armour still has it's place, especially in PVE, dungeons and trials.

LUC1D7 · September 2016

TBS with Night Mother and Agility Jewelry. It's probably one of the best bang for your buck DPS gear.

Mustard · September 2016

Just look up alcast. He has multiple builds and alternate ones for non maelstrom people. They can get you 25-30k dps and he also explains his rotation.

Valundur · September 2016

I assume you are talking about level 50 crafted gear and with the crafted sets. The original question could be from a lowbie like myself, where the crafting we do is from a normal metalworking station.

Because there is no manual you don't understand what named crafted items are about or how they work. The 'help' key does not even cover it.

By chance I found a station but could not understand why I could only make 3 items from the set. Traits are not explained at the station and guides assume you already know the basics. With the high use of acronyms here and in guides. most of it goes over my head. But you have given me enough to get me interested in the subject.

The bonus items from a crafted set I assume are enchantments and so you cannot add any more enchantments? At this point I am not too bothered about crafted sets as they are BOE and I cannot therefore hand them down. leveling at the low levels is so fast that even blue items I craft omly last 2 levels.

I will look into it again perhaps when I hit the 40's

Danksta · September 2016

Valundur wrote: »

I assume you are talking about level 50 crafted gear and with the crafted sets. The original question could be from a lowbie like myself, where the crafting we do is from a normal metalworking station.

Because there is no manual you don't understand what named crafted items are about or how they work. The 'help' key does not even cover it.

By chance I found a station but could not understand why I could only make 3 items from the set. Traits are not explained at the station and guides assume you already know the basics. With the high use of acronyms here and in guides. most of it goes over my head. But you have given me enough to get me interested in the subject.

The bonus items from a crafted set I assume are enchantments and so you cannot add any more enchantments? At this point I am not too bothered about crafted sets as they are BOE and I cannot therefore hand them down. leveling at the low levels is so fast that even blue items I craft omly last 2 levels.

I will look into it again perhaps when I hit the 40's

All crafted sets and their locations can be found on this site:

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Set+Bonus+Crafting+Locations

I'd recommend if you think you might at some point get in to crafting to start researching traits and leveling crafting skill lines ASAP. Researching traits will take about a year if you stay on top of it to get all 9 traits. The amount of traits researched determines if you can craft a specific piece of gear in a certain set.
Example: I want to craft Hunding's Rage in medium armor, and it takes 6 traits to craft Hunding's Rage. I have 6 traits researched in 4 types of medium armor, so those 4 types of medium armor are the only ones I can craft in the set "Hunding's Rage".

Also the set bonuses aren't enchantments, so you can enchant them.

UrQuan · September 2016

Valundur wrote: »

At this point I am not too bothered about crafted sets as they are BOE and I cannot therefore hand them down. leveling at the low levels is so fast that even blue items I craft omly last 2 levels.

I will look into it again perhaps when I hit the 40's

You can hand them down to your own alts, you just can't give or sell them to other players. If you're using blue or better (definitely don't upgrade to gold though) crafted sets while leveling a character you can very nicely get by with just crafting a new set of gear every 10 levels. Assuming you're using sets that work well for your setup anyway.