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Ilambris - Best in Slot for Magic Sorcerers for One Tamriel?
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RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭BdCHighVoltage wrote: »does illambris proc from fire/shock DOTs?
Yep, and it's his best strength : as a magicka sorc, you put three fire tick per second (weaved MA, fire wall, force pulse) and three thunder tick per second (boundless form, liquid lightning, force pulse), plus all burned/concussed effect and enchant.
It's a 27% proc chance per second per effect.0 -
so... why it's worse than skoria?
as a fire magDK,
ilambris proc from every damage i do,but skoria does proc only from DoT i put on... i should exchange the latter for the first,no?
maybe less damage but more often ProcsEdited by BdCHighVoltage on September 12, 2016 11:03AM0 -
Contraptions✭✭✭✭✭The size of the proc is actually decent, it's roughly the size of Liquid Lightning. And given that it procs off any lightning/fire damage it can actually be a decent monster set. And since it's DOT it can double dip off two champion stars. It's a really decent set overall.
The overall downside compared to Skoria is that it's a static AOE, so if it procs in a bad location or if the mob moves the damage is negated. But of course tanks are there to keep the mob in place to that shouldn't be too much of a problem.Patroller and Editor at UESP0 -
RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭BdCHighVoltage wrote: »so... why it's worse than skoria?
as a fire magDK,
ilambris proc from every damage i do,but skoria does proc only from DoT i put on... i should exchange the latter for the first,no?
maybe less damage but more often Procs
As a DK you do little to no shock damage. That's mean you have a 10% chance proc to do less than Skoria's damage (7800 damage) each 8 second (40 second : 39000 damage with perfect proc). With Skoria, you ave still a lot of dot for a 8% chance to proc 9k damage each 5 second (40 second : 72000 damage, still with perfect proc). The potential damage is 1,85 better with Skoria.
WIth fire wall, eruption, engulfing flame, burning ember, fire lash and medium weaving, that's mean 28% proc chance for Skoria each second (dot alway applied) against 47% chance to proc Ilambris when you use fire lash and 41% chance to proc Ilambris when you reapply dots. When you use fire lash, the proc rate is 1,67 better for Ilambris. It's less than Skoria's damage bonus, so it seem that Skoria does a little more damage than Ilambris on a DK.
Note that each other dot (burning, scalding rune…) favor Skoria even more.
Ilambris seem competitive over Skoria if you do a lot of fire AND shock damage. That's mean it's nearly a sorc set only.
EDIT : Ilambris proc has 6 tick, confirmed by myself.Edited by RoyJade on September 12, 2016 12:29PM2 -
RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭After some test, I can now say that the first Ilambris tick hit when the effect proc, giving 6 effective tick per proc. It's better than what I expected
I'll edit all my post in regard to this test.1 -
Darlon✭✭✭✭✭My experiences so far gave been pretty ok with it (as a magicka sorc).
It works best on a stationary target (doh, no surprise there), so in a group environment where the tank holds that target on 1 place it works very well.
In a solo environment, where there is a lot of movement it is not so good, but that is to be expected.0 -
Glantir✭✭✭✭Dont forget that Imlabris gives magicka as 1 Item Bonus and thats increase your damage in general. So maybe its better to use 1 Imla and 1 Kena?Glantir Sorcerer ~ Ebonheart Pact (EU)0 -
Foxic✭✭✭✭✭All I can say for sure, is that Ilambris does not replace anything we have right now.
It can deliver good results IF you are lucky and experience a good uptime of both, the lightning and fire hail.
But this is rather unlikely. It depends more on rng than Nerien and Skoria.
Have you actually tested ilambris? It's absolute bis for sorcerer. I tested it for hours on the pts and it beat kena and nerieneth in literally every situation( aoe, mixed aoe, single target)
http://m.imgur.com/809AvTh?r
This was an average parse. Ilambris can push 3.5K single target and it even gave me 12K dps on the flame atro pack in aaMechanically Challenged, PCNA competitive raid guild
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Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TotallyNotVos wrote: »All I can say for sure, is that Ilambris does not replace anything we have right now.
It can deliver good results IF you are lucky and experience a good uptime of both, the lightning and fire hail.
But this is rather unlikely. It depends more on rng than Nerien and Skoria.
Have you actually tested ilambris? It's absolute bis for sorcerer. I tested it for hours on the pts and it beat kena and nerieneth in literally every situation( aoe, mixed aoe, single target)
http://m.imgur.com/809AvTh?r
This was an average parse. Ilambris can push 3.5K single target and it even gave me 12K dps on the flame atro pack in aa
You just made my day sir. Thank you sooooo much. Finally a crazy strong monster set for a Sorc. Gonna kick a**.
3.5k single target. On a parse. All the proof I needed. Its probably the best performing set in the game actually. Farming is to be done.@ Izaki #PCEU
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hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ilambris - BIS for MagSorc
Grothdar- BiS for MagDKTotallyNotVos wrote: »All I can say for sure, is that Ilambris does not replace anything we have right now.
It can deliver good results IF you are lucky and experience a good uptime of both, the lightning and fire hail.
But this is rather unlikely. It depends more on rng than Nerien and Skoria.
Have you actually tested ilambris? It's absolute bis for sorcerer. I tested it for hours on the pts and it beat kena and nerieneth in literally every situation( aoe, mixed aoe, single target)
http://m.imgur.com/809AvTh?r
This was an average parse. Ilambris can push 3.5K single target and it even gave me 12K dps on the flame atro pack in aa
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Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Ilambris - BIS for MagSorc
Grothdar- BiS for MagDKTotallyNotVos wrote: »All I can say for sure, is that Ilambris does not replace anything we have right now.
It can deliver good results IF you are lucky and experience a good uptime of both, the lightning and fire hail.
But this is rather unlikely. It depends more on rng than Nerien and Skoria.
Have you actually tested ilambris? It's absolute bis for sorcerer. I tested it for hours on the pts and it beat kena and nerieneth in literally every situation( aoe, mixed aoe, single target)
http://m.imgur.com/809AvTh?r
This was an average parse. Ilambris can push 3.5K single target and it even gave me 12K dps on the flame atro pack in aa
^^^^^This^^^^^
That was the best confirmation I ever needed. Thank you thank you thank you thank you.@ Izaki #PCEU
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RoyJade✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yep, thanks for the test
Theorycrafting is fun, but a real test is alway better.
Time for my magsorc to finally rise again !0 -
Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.@ Izaki #PCEU
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Foxic✭✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.
I think the best in slot setup will be 5tbs or scathing, 2 ilambris, 4 aether and maelstrom backbar.
Using scathing jewelry is worth testing but I doubt it's worth losing minor slayer, ilambris and the other aether bonusesMechanically Challenged, PCNA competitive raid guild
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Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TotallyNotVos wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.
I think the best in slot setup will be 5tbs or scathing, 2 ilambris, 4 aether and maelstrom backbar.
Using scathing jewelry is worth testing but I doubt it's worth losing minor slayer, ilambris and the other aether bonuses
The only problem is that the lightning staff sucks now....@ Izaki #PCEU
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Foxic✭✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »TotallyNotVos wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.
I think the best in slot setup will be 5tbs or scathing, 2 ilambris, 4 aether and maelstrom backbar.
Using scathing jewelry is worth testing but I doubt it's worth losing minor slayer, ilambris and the other aether bonuses
The only problem is that the lightning staff sucks now....
What does that matter? The only sorcerer I know of that actually uses the lightning heavy attack is yolo. Streak got a 48.5K twins parse without ever using the lightning heavy
Edit: with that setup you should ideally be using double infernoEdited by Foxic on September 12, 2016 4:30PMMechanically Challenged, PCNA competitive raid guild
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Glantir✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »TotallyNotVos wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.
I think the best in slot setup will be 5tbs or scathing, 2 ilambris, 4 aether and maelstrom backbar.
Using scathing jewelry is worth testing but I doubt it's worth losing minor slayer, ilambris and the other aether bonuses
The only problem is that the lightning staff sucks now....
You will equip a Inferno Staff anyway because otherwise your Wall is lightning and you have less fire dmg.Glantir Sorcerer ~ Ebonheart Pact (EU)0 -
hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.
I think for Sorcs Its 3 aether/2Ilambris/5TBS, for NB Im not sure yet...0 -
hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭TotallyNotVos wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.
I think the best in slot setup will be 5tbs or scathing, 2 ilambris, 4 aether and maelstrom backbar.
Using scathing jewelry is worth testing but I doubt it's worth losing minor slayer, ilambris and the other aether bonuses
For sure vMA back bar and Aether front bar if ur running staff staff0 -
Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »TotallyNotVos wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.
I think the best in slot setup will be 5tbs or scathing, 2 ilambris, 4 aether and maelstrom backbar.
Using scathing jewelry is worth testing but I doubt it's worth losing minor slayer, ilambris and the other aether bonuses
The only problem is that the lightning staff sucks now....
You will equip a Inferno Staff anyway because otherwise your Wall is lightning and you have less fire dmg.
I run 2 staves Maelstrom Inferno on back bar with DoTs and execute and Lightning on front bar. I prefer weaving with a lightning staff anyway, and when weaving light attacks the DPS doesn't change.@ Izaki #PCEU
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Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭TotallyNotVos wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »TotallyNotVos wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.
I think the best in slot setup will be 5tbs or scathing, 2 ilambris, 4 aether and maelstrom backbar.
Using scathing jewelry is worth testing but I doubt it's worth losing minor slayer, ilambris and the other aether bonuses
The only problem is that the lightning staff sucks now....
What does that matter? The only sorcerer I know of that actually uses the lightning heavy attack is yolo. Streak got a 48.5K twins parse without ever using the lightning heavy
Edit: with that setup you should ideally be using double inferno
I'm using the exact same bars as Yolo and Steak, i always wanted to use Curse in PvE. I prefer lightning in every situation.@ Izaki #PCEU
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Foxic✭✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »TotallyNotVos wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »TotallyNotVos wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »So @hedna123b14_ESO what do you think will be the better set-up? Scathing/TBS + Ilambris + Aether or Scathing + TBS? I heard we get Scathing and Spell Power Cure in jewelry now.
I think the best in slot setup will be 5tbs or scathing, 2 ilambris, 4 aether and maelstrom backbar.
Using scathing jewelry is worth testing but I doubt it's worth losing minor slayer, ilambris and the other aether bonuses
The only problem is that the lightning staff sucks now....
What does that matter? The only sorcerer I know of that actually uses the lightning heavy attack is yolo. Streak got a 48.5K twins parse without ever using the lightning heavy
Edit: with that setup you should ideally be using double inferno
I'm using the exact same bars as Yolo and Steak, i always wanted to use Curse in PvE. I prefer lightning in every situation.
All sorcs are running the same bars, the difference is that yolo is the only person i know that uses the actual lightning channel, streak just uses the lightning staff frontbar because it has a better weave and he doesnt have a maelstrom staff
And while lightning weaving does feel smoother, mathematically double flame staff is bisEdited by Foxic on September 12, 2016 10:04PMMechanically Challenged, PCNA competitive raid guild
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SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
✭hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Ilambris - BIS for MagSorc
Grothdar- BiS for MagDKTotallyNotVos wrote: »All I can say for sure, is that Ilambris does not replace anything we have right now.
It can deliver good results IF you are lucky and experience a good uptime of both, the lightning and fire hail.
But this is rather unlikely. It depends more on rng than Nerien and Skoria.
Have you actually tested ilambris? It's absolute bis for sorcerer. I tested it for hours on the pts and it beat kena and nerieneth in literally every situation( aoe, mixed aoe, single target)
http://m.imgur.com/809AvTh?r
This was an average parse. Ilambris can push 3.5K single target and it even gave me 12K dps on the flame atro pack in aa
^^^^^This^^^^^
What about nihgtblades
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Cronopoly✭✭✭✭✭I tested 2 Liambris, 5 Torug's Pact, 4 Spinners - wanted to test lighting heavy before throwing it in the trash.
Was interesting with an Infused Lightning Staff with a Flame Enchant. The Flame enchant procs like crazy.
Right away got both Liambris Shock and Flame Procs on a ranged mob when using a Lightning Heavy as the Flame enchant procced immediately. Needs more testing as I didn't capture damage logs as the fight was literally seconds.
I think Liambris will show promise on stationary targets as others have said.0