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Basic dueling features...

leepalmer95
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Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

Also be nice if there was a betting system.
PS4 EU DC

Current CP : 756+

I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Strider_Roshin
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    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    All of this please!
  • ManwithBeard9
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    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    They covered betting and ult dumping at PAX, gentleman's agreement. They aren't getting involved with either. They mentioned stats, can't remember what they said exactly. You can watch the coverage on the Bethesda twitch channel.
  • Strider_Roshin
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    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    They covered betting and ult dumping at PAX, gentleman's agreement. They aren't getting involved with either. They mentioned stats, can't remember what they said exactly. You can watch the coverage on the Bethesda twitch channel.

    So another words, expect everyone to open with a bow ballista.
  • DocFrost72
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    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    They covered betting and ult dumping at PAX, gentleman's agreement. They aren't getting involved with either. They mentioned stats, can't remember what they said exactly. You can watch the coverage on the Bethesda twitch channel.

    So another words, expect everyone to open with a bow ballista.

    Scrubs, yes.
  • Strider_Roshin
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    They covered betting and ult dumping at PAX, gentleman's agreement. They aren't getting involved with either. They mentioned stats, can't remember what they said exactly. You can watch the coverage on the Bethesda twitch channel.

    So another words, expect everyone to open with a bow ballista.

    Scrubs, yes.

    Making it so that we start with our ultimate is just annoying. Especially since both of my Ultimates require a target; making it impossible to waste ultimate before the fight. This gentleman's agreement isn't practical since in the majority of situations we can't even waste it if we wanted to.
  • Darlon
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    They covered betting and ult dumping at PAX, gentleman's agreement. They aren't getting involved with either. They mentioned stats, can't remember what they said exactly. You can watch the coverage on the Bethesda twitch channel.

    So another words, expect everyone to open with a bow ballista.

    Scrubs, yes.

    Making it so that we start with our ultimate is just annoying. Especially since both of my Ultimates require a target; making it impossible to waste ultimate before the fight. This gentleman's agreement isn't practical since in the majority of situations we can't even waste it if we wanted to.

    Slot another ulti that doesn't require a target (every class has them) -> use it -> slot back other ulti -> problem solved.

  • leepalmer95
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    Darlon wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    They covered betting and ult dumping at PAX, gentleman's agreement. They aren't getting involved with either. They mentioned stats, can't remember what they said exactly. You can watch the coverage on the Bethesda twitch channel.

    So another words, expect everyone to open with a bow ballista.

    Scrubs, yes.

    Making it so that we start with our ultimate is just annoying. Especially since both of my Ultimates require a target; making it impossible to waste ultimate before the fight. This gentleman's agreement isn't practical since in the majority of situations we can't even waste it if we wanted to.

    Slot another ulti that doesn't require a target (every class has them) -> use it -> slot back other ulti -> problem solved.

    What happens in my ult's cost 200 + and i'm at like 70-120 do i light attack and wait for it to charge?

    What about all these stam nb's who 'empty' ult, who then proceed to light attack you a few times while buffing, take a pot and then incap from the get go anyway and then claim they started with 0 ult.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Marto
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    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?

    I remember that during the PAX West livestreams ZOS mentioned this was a known bug in the PTS, and that it would be fixed soon in another PTS patch.

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  • Omgwtfbbq321
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    I agree with all but the ultimate being dropped to 0. That just favours who has the lowest cost ult. It should be on a timer, maybe 30 seconds into the fight, it will say “Ultimates available!”.

    At least this way, you won’t have to worry about Incap/Dawnbreaker basically off the bat.

    Just an idea..
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  • leepalmer95
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    I agree with all but the ultimate being dropped to 0. That just favours who has the lowest cost ult. It should be on a timer, maybe 30 seconds into the fight, it will say “Ultimates available!”.

    At least this way, you won’t have to worry about Incap/Dawnbreaker basically off the bat.

    Just an idea..

    Well yeah, thats the idea, higher cost ultimates tend to do more.

    People would just start with 1k ultimate and overload the entire fight or instant go ww.

    Or a dk could just use a high dmg build, pop alch and meteor + fossilize people and kill them instantly nearly every time.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Cogo
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    You only need 1 button.

    Dont pester me about dueling, button
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  • leepalmer95
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    Cogo wrote: »
    You only need 1 button.

    Dont pester me about dueling, button

    Thats already a thing though?

    You can auto decline duels
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • EnOeZ
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    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    Something else that needs to be adressed: potions !

    Either forbid use of potions, or provide 1 to 3 standard potions available only during the duel.
    Otherwise alchemists and money will win all the duels.

    Food and Drink are more accessible.

    Quality of stuff could be an issue if duels become a serious thing in TESO: Include an "all items turn legendary quality" during the duel.
    Edited by EnOeZ on September 12, 2016 12:52PM
  • susmitds
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    Darlon wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    They covered betting and ult dumping at PAX, gentleman's agreement. They aren't getting involved with either. They mentioned stats, can't remember what they said exactly. You can watch the coverage on the Bethesda twitch channel.

    So another words, expect everyone to open with a bow ballista.

    Scrubs, yes.

    Making it so that we start with our ultimate is just annoying. Especially since both of my Ultimates require a target; making it impossible to waste ultimate before the fight. This gentleman's agreement isn't practical since in the majority of situations we can't even waste it if we wanted to.

    Slot another ulti that doesn't require a target (every class has them) -> use it -> slot back other ulti -> problem solved.

    What happens in my ult's cost 200 + and i'm at like 70-120 do i light attack and wait for it to charge?

    What about all these stam nb's who 'empty' ult, who then proceed to light attack you a few times while buffing, take a pot and then incap from the get go anyway and then claim they started with 0 ult.

    I can drop Incapacitating Strike every 4-6 secs.
  • Strider_Roshin
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Darlon wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    They covered betting and ult dumping at PAX, gentleman's agreement. They aren't getting involved with either. They mentioned stats, can't remember what they said exactly. You can watch the coverage on the Bethesda twitch channel.

    So another words, expect everyone to open with a bow ballista.

    Scrubs, yes.

    Making it so that we start with our ultimate is just annoying. Especially since both of my Ultimates require a target; making it impossible to waste ultimate before the fight. This gentleman's agreement isn't practical since in the majority of situations we can't even waste it if we wanted to.

    Slot another ulti that doesn't require a target (every class has them) -> use it -> slot back other ulti -> problem solved.

    What happens in my ult's cost 200 + and i'm at like 70-120 do i light attack and wait for it to charge?

    What about all these stam nb's who 'empty' ult, who then proceed to light attack you a few times while buffing, take a pot and then incap from the get go anyway and then claim they started with 0 ult.

    I can drop Incapacitating Strike every 4-6 secs.

    Lol you gain 10 ultimate per second? What's your secret?
  • Strider_Roshin
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    EnOeZ wrote: »
    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    Something else that needs to be adressed: potions !

    Either forbid use of potions, or provide 1 to 3 standard potions available only during the duel.
    Otherwise alchemists and money will win all the duels.

    Food and Drink are more accessible.

    Quality of stuff could be an issue if duels become a serious thing in TESO: Include an "all items turn legendary quality" during the duel.

    Or you can stop being lazy, and level up your alchemy and provisioning like a lot of us did. Also I don't even need to use a potion in the majority of my fights so potion accessibility isn't game breaking.
  • Strider_Roshin
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    I agree with all but the ultimate being dropped to 0. That just favours who has the lowest cost ult. It should be on a timer, maybe 30 seconds into the fight, it will say “Ultimates available!”.

    At least this way, you won’t have to worry about Incap/Dawnbreaker basically off the bat.

    Just an idea..

    Only if we can make it so you can't heal until 15 seconds after the fight starts. After all, that's how long stamina users have to wait before they get their burst heal from Rally. Otherwise this will give a huge advantage to classes that have access to burst heals such as magicka Templars.
  • Darlon
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    Seeing all the restrictions people want to put onto duelling, wouldn't it be better to change it so that you can only duel with words in chat ? Saves the developers a bit of time also :wink:
  • Strider_Roshin
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    Darlon wrote: »
    Seeing all the restrictions people want to put onto duelling, wouldn't it be better to change it so that you can only duel with words in chat ? Saves the developers a bit of time also :wink:

    Avada Kedavra! :wink:
  • leepalmer95
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    Darlon wrote: »
    Seeing all the restrictions people want to put onto duelling, wouldn't it be better to change it so that you can only duel with words in chat ? Saves the developers a bit of time also :wink:

    Pretty sure people already do anyway.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • idk
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    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    No need for a gambling system build into the game. If you want to wager it can be between the two of you.
  • leepalmer95
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    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    No need for a gambling system build into the game. If you want to wager it can be between the two of you.

    Why not?
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • SRIBES
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    Ya
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    Hmmm... a small, but constantly used gold sink - let ZOS be the bookie, take a cut from the winnings, and handle the payouts in the mail. You could bet items as well as gold, too.
    However, I see where they are coming from with a hands off apporoach - I think by "gentleman's agreement", ZOS means "we're not overseeing betting and fielding a million tickets about false cheating accusations wanting refunds."
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  • ManwithBeard9
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    EnOeZ wrote: »
    Can the battle spirit hp come in immediately?
    Also can it set all ult to 0 at the start
    And fill up everyone's stats? So people don't accidentally start the fight with half magicka/stamina.

    Also be nice if there was a betting system.

    Something else that needs to be adressed: potions !

    Either forbid use of potions, or provide 1 to 3 standard potions available only during the duel.
    Otherwise alchemists and money will win all the duels.

    Food and Drink are more accessible.

    Quality of stuff could be an issue if duels become a serious thing in TESO: Include an "all items turn legendary quality" during the duel.

    This is why Rich Lambert and Brian Wheeler said they arent putting limitations and options in dueling. There's way to much to deal with to implement any of these systems in game and it just opens up avenues for more things to go wrong. KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid0.
    Hmmm... a small, but constantly used gold sink - let ZOS be the bookie, take a cut from the winnings, and handle the payouts in the mail. You could bet items as well as gold, too.
    However, I see where they are coming from with a hands off apporoach - I think by "gentleman's agreement", ZOS means "we're not overseeing betting and fielding a million tickets about false cheating accusations wanting refunds."

    This ^^^
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