Guards are going to need a buff if update 12 is serious about towers...
Guards may already be tough, but now some scrub will able to sneak into a tower, put up a few ballistas, kill the flag guards, and finish off the easy ones to take the resource on their own. I know the flag guards can use that one anti-siege spell or whatever it is, but it won't help against 2-3 ballistas firing one after the other.
You could also load the tower with guards to prevent that.
Or you could fix the lag so players can actually enter the door when they take the resource to kill remaining enemies.
Edited by TheAngelofDeath99 on September 11, 2016 10:44PM You could also load the tower with guards to prevent that.
Or you could fix the lag so players can actually enter the door when they take the resource to kill remaining enemies.
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✭✭✭✭Because it's so hard to take a resource by yourself to begin with?Susano'o
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✭✭✭✭✭Im all for buffing npcs in cyrodiil tho, they are increasing them to cp 160 as stated in the latest eso live, but they do need a general buff aswell imo cause they fall like wheat to a ..whatsitcalled already.
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✭✭✭✭✭You can solo any level 5 resource already?PS4 EU DC
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✭leepalmer95 wrote: »You can solo any level 5 resource already?
yup. I wouldn't go so far as to say it is easy, but it is not uncommon.Edited by Drummerx04 on September 11, 2016 10:51PMPC/NA - Nightfighters, Raid Leader and Officer
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LBxFinalDeath✭✭✭✭If you can't take a resource solo something is off with your build.
In my opinion anyway.
I only see the towers no longer having doors as a good thing, AP farmers needed to take a hit tbh.1 -
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✭✭The people who are saying it's already easy taking a resource solo don't realize that not everybody in Cyrodiil is maxed out on CP and gear
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✭✭✭✭✭The people who are saying it's already easy taking a resource solo don't realize that not everybody in Cyrodiil is maxed out on CP and gear
But you can literally go on a resource and spam a skill.
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If you having trouble just play it easy mode and not charge in, pull the guard + healer by the mage guard, kill them, range the mage down and then go in.PS4 EU DC
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Soundwave✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »The people who are saying it's already easy taking a resource solo don't realize that not everybody in Cyrodiil is maxed out on CP and gear
But you can literally go on a resource and spam a skill.
Mag nb - Sap
Mag dk - Inhale
Anything stamina just needs to dawnbreaker something once.
If you having trouble just play it easy mode and not charge in, pull the guard + healer by the mage guard, kill them, range the mage down and then go in.
U make sound so easy, I've tried and utterly fail. If I want to test my heal, I usually go and see how I can go without running out magicka. My time is about six minutes, then *** starts getting a hairy, 7 is pushing it. If u think your good healer, no pots, just heal yourself. How long can use last without biffen it.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »The people who are saying it's already easy taking a resource solo don't realize that not everybody in Cyrodiil is maxed out on CP and gear
But you can literally go on a resource and spam a skill.
Mag nb - Sap
Mag dk - Inhale
Anything stamina just needs to dawnbreaker something once.
If you having trouble just play it easy mode and not charge in, pull the guard + healer by the mage guard, kill them, range the mage down and then go in.
U make sound so easy, I've tried and utterly fail. If I want to test my heal, I usually go and see how I can go without running out magicka. My time is about six minutes, then *** starts getting a hairy, 7 is pushing it. If u think your good healer, no pots, just heal yourself. How long can use last without biffen it.
Wtf you are on about.PS4 EU DC
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✭✭✭✭✭Level 5 resource is easy af on my stamblade, my magsorc and my stamtemplar(who is ***)
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✭Drummerx04 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »You can solo any level 5 resource already?
yup. I wouldn't go so far as to say it is easy, but it is not uncommon.
I'd go that far, my Templar can charge in, throw down AOE's, then start using puncturing sweeps and easily take any resource no problem, I've even done it with another enemy player trying to help the NPC's kill me.0 -
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✭✭✭✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »Guards may already be tough, but now some scrub....TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »
Don't worry, I'm one of those scrubs just like you. Just embrace your scrubbiness and everything gets easier.2 -
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✭✭✭✭I clear resources at a 90% or higher clip. I really have to not be paying attention to screw it up.
Step 1 - Invisibilty potion
2 - Ice comet healer on flag
3 - Kill other healer
These steps should take no more than 10 seconds.
Then it's either kill the Mage guard or the ground troops depending on where you are standing. The entire process should take less than 2 minutes. If you have 500 CP no reason you can't do this too. Even 300 is doable.
The entire key is the invis pot and having an ultimate ready to go. Doing this without the invis pot makes it 5 times harder and longer.1 -
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✭✭danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »I clear resources at a 90% or higher clip. I really have to not be paying attention to screw it up.
Step 1 - Invisibilty potion
2 - Ice comet healer on flag
3 - Kill other healer
These steps should take no more than 10 seconds.
Then it's either kill the Mage guard or the ground troops depending on where you are standing. The entire process should take less than 2 minutes. If you have 500 CP no reason you can't do this too. Even 300 is doable.
The entire key is the invis pot and having an ultimate ready to go. Doing this without the invis pot makes it 5 times harder and longer.
Why are you using an invisibly potion lmfao... Why not just buff up, drop your meteor and save the potion for when and if you need it. Taking a resource is stupid easy these days unless you are solo taking a lvl on no cp. other than that there isn't much thought that needs to be put into it.Formerly @Persian_Princess .. Now @Asgari
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✭✭✭✭✭Its easy for me to solo a res now
On my Sorc I attack the mender and 1 guard at the tower, then the tower mage, build up negate and use that on the flag and beat down the guards
On Templar SPAM Jabs and heal and just dark flare the tower mage while you do so
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✭✭I just run into resources with wings up, deep breath, talons and whip the healers down, drop bats or standard if I need it and the mage guard kills himself on my wings. The only time I have a problem is when the npcs chain cc me completely ignoring my supposed cc immunity.PC/EU DC0 -
Totalitarian✭✭✭✭✭Soloing Resources was a bit tough on my Stamplar, but I could get them done about 50% of the time.
It'd be EZ mode on my Magplar.
I do agree that Resource Guards should get a buff though.PC NA CP 531+
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✭JamieAubrey wrote: »Its easy for me to solo a res now
On my Sorc I attack the mender and 1 guard at the tower, then the tower mage, build up negate and use that on the flag and beat down the guards
On Templar SPAM Jabs and heal and just dark flare the tower mage while you do so
NB/DK still do do this yet
This^
With a bow it is really easy to solo a resource atm you just need to approach from tower side to take out the mage guard first before going to the flag.
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✭✭In my opinion i'd be fine with Resource Guards with 25x the health. Defending or Attacking a Resource seems so pointless since Guards are so easy to kill. The only thing that hurt me before the no door thing was being melee and having no way to kill the Mage Guard. Now i can just run up and kill it no problem.
If the Guards had 25x the health you could actually defend a Resource for a long time. It should be decently hard/time consuming to take a Resource with less then 5 players.
This is personally what i would like to see. I know a lot of people would disagree but in my opinion it makes the game a little more interesting. I'd rather be able to fight outside and around my Resource and know i have some beefy Guards to fall back on and assist me in a fight.
Attacking a Resource shouldn't be easy. You would have to use Blade of Woe to kill the Guard healers and use Siege and stuff like that. This would make gameplay a lot more interesting in my opinion when considering the PvE side of Cryodill.
I don't think Solo to Four players should have such an easy time taking a Resource. If Guards had 25x the health, even a 12 man group would have to play smart and watch what they were doing if 4 enemy players were defending it. You want small-scale, make Guards have insane health so you can fall back on them when a Zerg comes by. So much health that you can actually utilize their assistance to make the fight even numbers and have a chance at winning the fight.
Just my opinion on the whole Resource Guards thing.
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✭TheAngelofDeath99 wrote: »Guards may already be tough, but now some scrub will able to sneak into a tower, put up a few ballistas, kill the flag guards, and finish off the easy ones to take the resource on their own. I know the flag guards can use that one anti-siege spell or whatever it is, but it won't help against 2-3 ballistas firing one after the other.
You could also load the tower with guards to prevent that.
Or you could fix the lag so players can actually enter the door when they take the resource to kill remaining enemies.
What's to stop you now puting seige up outside!
But as said by many, there are some who can take them solo already.
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✭✭✭✭They are receiving a buff. They will now scale to CP160 in update 12. They are now scaled only at CP140, just like the other NPCs in Cyrodiil. And yes, soloing a resource, if no enemy players are about, is really easy, especially if you are a ranged DK, using bow or destro staff and flapping wings to reflect spells back at the mages. Once the tower guard and the healer next to the tower stairs bite the dust the others follow quickly.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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