Maelstrom is the worst thing that ZoS ever put into this game

darthsithis · September 2016

yes those axes are an exception.

I have two. I'm a magicka sorc, but I use them for nuking sometimes. I buff up, proc spell power enchant on staff bar and proc kena on second hit (that's already 5000 spell power on the dw bar now), swap to maelstrom axes, flurry for extra 3.4k spell damage, proc might of the guild for 20% more damage, and cast soul strike ultimate that hits for numbers you would instantly dismiss as bs.

Those things are crazy.

Impractical on a dungeon though haha

Xjcon · September 2016

If only those items were BOE. Some people love doing VMA. They would have been billionaires by now.

Ch4mpTW · September 2016

Xjcon wrote: »

If only those items were BOE. Some people love doing VMA. They would have been billionaires by now.

I'd easily pay a cool 2 million gold for a sharpened Maelstrom inferno staff. No joke. Whoever it was selling it to me would be a very wealthy individual.

PurifedBladez · September 2016

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

PurifedBladez wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

You don't need a Maelstrom weapon to be successful.

People think that obtaining a magical stick will somehow make them more powerful because they saw a guy wielding a Maelstrom staff and he was OP.

Guess what?

The staff did not make him strong.
Beating vMA did.
Sometimes the journey IS more important than the goal.

If you still believe a magical powerful weapon will increase your damage output, simply log in to the PTS and see for yourself.

It's seriously blown out of proportion.

While I agree that there are alternatives, let's be real for a second. Maelstrom weapons are the best of the best. The damage I do with my sharpened Maelstrom Axe and sharpened Maelstrom Dagger is stupid. Throw in my Maelstrom Bow, and it's bananas. I was just talking to @Vaoh about this on PSN. The damage difference from going Maelstrom and regular is ridiculous. It honestly is.

So nerf em. If it's thats crazy then there is no excuse.

Talking primarily about the dw axe/dagger combo that every pve player would kill their mother over.

Kill their mother over these toys?

I have so many of those things, I started deconning them. And I still have a like 9-10 of each. Lol. If I could, I'd give you and anyone else who wanted a pair of them.

And yes, they're pretty strong. Not even gold, and they transform your damage ridiculously (though I plan on turning them gold early next week). Neither crafted not Master Weapons compare. I have a pair of sharpened Vicious Serpent daggers, and not even they can hold a candle to them. Nor sharpened NMG or HR daggers. People claim that crafted weapons can compare, but honest to goodness I doubt that strongly. Especially the sharpened 2H's in a place like PVP. It's all fun and games until you get Crit-rushed with sharpened Maelstrom Greatsword, and you're punking MagPlars in close-quarters.

I don't care about maelstrom weps anymore. I don't even really run pve content and, when I do two lekis daggers is honestly decent enough. I won't go into vma again without a token system my reasoning being is I don't like to run that content at all. Especially when Ive been eating resto stalves for breakfast.

In pvp running maelstrom weps on my current build gets me like 60 extra wd while losing out on the chance to proc my enchants. Also I don't use crit rush.

That's was an expression by the way.. Dont be ridiculous. The increase in dps is not fair to the other pve players though. Especially players that are doomed on drops.

Own · September 2016

Vaoh wrote: »

l3alls wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Only issue with Maelstrom Arena, is that those Daggers/Axes buff your Single Target DoTs by 24x Golden CP160 Weapon Damage stat bonuses.

If running a trial as a Stam Build (especially Stam Sorc and Stam DK) you will be a total liability without them.

This gear is nigh on impossible to get, yet is 110% BiS by a mile for Stam PvE DPS.

That needs to change. RNG is RNG, and my 150+ runs and weeklies have netted me a single Axe (no Daggers) in all of my invested time. It was Nirnhoned

What are the optimal weapons? I am building a vmol stam sorc. I have a precise axe, sharpened dagger, sharpened bow. Maelsteom flawless conq. Was my first move to the pve land, next is that blue skin

For PvE Stam DPS in Trials:

Setup 1
*** In my opinion this is overall the "optimal" setup***
- All Gold, Divines/Robust/Sharpened
- Max Stamina/Weapon Damage Glyphs
• 5x Twice Born Star
• 5x Vicious Ophidian
• Maelstrom Dagger/Axe
• Maelstrom Bow

Setup 2
- All Gold, Divines/Robust/Sharpened
- Max Stamina/Weapon Damage Glyphs
• 2x Velidreth
• 5x Twice Born Star
• 3x Vicious Ophidian
• Maelstrom Dagger/Axe
• Maelstrom Bow

If no one else is running Night Mother's:

Setup 3
- All Gold, Divines/Robust/Sharpened
- Max Stamina/Weapon Damage Glyphs
• 5x Night Mother's
• 5x Vicious Ophidian
• Maelstrom Dagger/Axe
• Maelstrom Bow

Setup 4
- All Gold, Divines/Robust/Sharpened
- Max Stamina/Weapon Damage Glyphs
• 2x Velidreth
• 5x Night Mother's
• 3x Vicious Ophidian
• Maelstrom Dagger/Axe
• Maelstrom Bow

Next patch may open up new opportunities for DPS though.

• Kra'gh
• Spriggan

These two sets may work their way into some of the highest DPS builds.

Thanks! I don't/won't have vo jewls, but I have velindreth. maybe an agility set will be ok

Jaronking · September 2016

First of all the worst thing every added to the games were AOE caps and the removal of dynamic ultimate regain.OP this thread is just you whining if you want to be the best you have to work for it.Plus the trait RNG in this game his horrible.

BFT88 · September 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

First off I'm not complaining because I'm unable to do it.... I'm complaining about it because you're more than forced to do it just to obtain a powerful weapon to further advance your build. For all of the DPS burst builds out there more less requires you to have a maelstrom weapon. For players like me who really wants to participate in high DPS events such as a vet trial I am forced to do something that I really don't want... To completely reset my entire build (At the cost of me of course... since resetting your skill points/etc cost you a *** loads of gold) just to accommodate the solo based environment of maelstrom.

ZoS, I play ESO so that I can interact with other players.. to play dungeons and trials with other people who share the same interest as I do. While I'm more of a PvE kind of player I just might get into some PvP in the near future... I don't play your game to play all by myself. If I really want to do that then I just shut the game off, and go play some Skyrim or grand theft auto.

Why do you keep complaining about this over and over? Do you even PVP? I don't even have maelstrom weapons and I put kids that use maelstrom weapons in the dirt daily. Come on man.

bebynnag · September 2016

Kind of off topic, but the (latest) annoying thing about maelstrom for me is all the bugs that were once exclusive to Vet, have now started appearing in normal... I just want to level up my new charcater

burglar · September 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

First off I'm not complaining because I'm unable to do it.... I'm complaining about it because you're more than forced to do it just to obtain a powerful weapon to further advance your build. For all of the DPS burst builds out there more less requires you to have a maelstrom weapon. For players like me who really wants to participate in high DPS events such as a vet trial I am forced to do something that I really don't want... To completely reset my entire build (At the cost of me of course... since resetting your skill points/etc cost you a *** loads of gold) just to accommodate the solo based environment of maelstrom.

ZoS, I play ESO so that I can interact with other players.. to play dungeons and trials with other people who share the same interest as I do. While I'm more of a PvE kind of player I just might get into some PvP in the near future... I don't play your game to play all by myself. If I really want to do that then I just shut the game off, and go play some Skyrim or grand theft auto.

From a different perspective, im someone who hates dungeons; I really dislike relying on other people, and dislike people relying on me, primarily because they tell me what to do. But, as a solo player, I have something like 20+ dungeons/trials to contend with on new characters when I want to get those skill points. The difficulty isn't far off from vMA. Granted, people can be carried through dungeons and trials, but not vMA. But, vMA is the only solo trial, and is basically one giant rotation, and once you get it, you have it forever. This is not the case with dungeons.

Bigevilpeter · September 2016

I agree vMA just isolates you from the real game and community, it forces you to play for hours solo just to get the game's best weapons.

Besides the frustration of actually doing it and the frustration of getting *** items at the end.

It should be reworked somehow

BlazingDynamo · September 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

First off I'm not complaining because I'm unable to do it.... I'm complaining about it because you're more than forced to do it just to obtain a powerful weapon to further advance your build. For all of the DPS burst builds out there more less requires you to have a maelstrom weapon. For players like me who really wants to participate in high DPS events such as a vet trial I am forced to do something that I really don't want... To completely reset my entire build (At the cost of me of course... since resetting your skill points/etc cost you a *** loads of gold) just to accommodate the solo based environment of maelstrom.

ZoS, I play ESO so that I can interact with other players.. to play dungeons and trials with other people who share the same interest as I do. While I'm more of a PvE kind of player I just might get into some PvP in the near future... I don't play your game to play all by myself. If I really want to do that then I just shut the game off, and go play some Skyrim or grand theft auto.

Please do that then. Shut the game off and go play skyrim. The rest of us will continue to enjoy the game.

Voxicity · September 2016

Agreed. I finally took the time to sit down for a day and complete it a couple of days ago, and got pretty lucky with a defending maul which I can use for pvp.

But there's no way in hell I'd actually farm the place for maelstrom axe / bow, I would literally go insane. I'll stick to a 5/5/2 undaunted set thank you very much.

Jailbirdy · September 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

First off I'm not complaining because I'm unable to do it.... I'm complaining about it because you're more than forced to do it just to obtain a powerful weapon to further advance your build. For all of the DPS burst builds out there more less requires you to have a maelstrom weapon. For players like me who really wants to participate in high DPS events such as a vet trial I am forced to do something that I really don't want... To completely reset my entire build (At the cost of me of course... since resetting your skill points/etc cost you a *** loads of gold) just to accommodate the solo based environment of maelstrom.

ZoS, I play ESO so that I can interact with other players.. to play dungeons and trials with other people who share the same interest as I do. While I'm more of a PvE kind of player I just might get into some PvP in the near future... I don't play your game to play all by myself. If I really want to do that then I just shut the game off, and go play some Skyrim or grand theft auto.

Totally agree. Master weapons used to drop from PVP Campaign end rewards, they took that away. This is an MMO, I want to earn rewards playing with other people, not spending hours playing by myself to get a random one (and yes I own 2 Master weapons, but will never go back in there)

Soundwave · September 2016

Maelstrom weapons and its ideology behind them, is of one the reason why i won't do pve content. No matter how good your set is, how well u understand boss fight, able to listen (communication is key), in some else eye the person with a maelstrom weapon is better than u.

When not if, they increase gear cap, the vma wont scale. There is too much drama that goes with, it was suppose to be something for solo players could earn. Now its required by guilds, pugs, your mom, and everything in between.

Its funny how quickly players judge u base on the content that have or haven't done. Why judge, its just a game. Why r u better than me, does it make u feel good that u can accomplish something that required excellent hand and eye coordination.

Definition of insanity- when do something over and over, the outcome is the same. That is how I see everyone that comes about the RNG in wma. Why does it matter that u can push more dps, hps than your fellow guildie. The maelstrom has turned into the new pissing contest or my dad is bigger than yours.

Who gives a flying flip, its just a game. I play it because its fun, I understand people have something to prove. Why? Thats the question u should probably start asking yourself. Not saying everyone should get along, that is not possible; people are way to judgmental for that to have happen. Plus the hatred from blue to red to yellow to free to purple and maybe one orange. I am just wondering what happen to having skill over a pixel weapon now days.

Ch4mpTW · September 2016

Soundwave wrote: »

Maelstrom weapons and its ideology behind them, is of one the reason why i won't do pve content. No matter how good your set is, how well u understand boss fight, able to listen (communication is key), in some else eye the person with a maelstrom weapon is better than u.

When not if, they increase gear cap, the vma wont scale. There is too much drama that goes with, it was suppose to be something for solo players could earn. Now its required by guilds, pugs, your mom, and everything in between.

Its funny how quickly players judge u base on the content that have or haven't done. Why judge, its just a game. Why r u better than me, does it make u feel good that u can accomplish something that required excellent hand and eye coordination.

Definition of insanity- when do something over and over, the outcome is the same. That is how I see everyone that comes about the RNG in wma. Why does it matter that u can push more dps, hps than your fellow guildie. The maelstrom has turned into the new pissing contest or my dad is bigger than yours.

Who gives a flying flip, its just a game. I play it because its fun, I understand people have something to prove. Why? Thats the question u should probably start asking yourself. Not saying everyone should get along, that is not possible; people are way to judgmental for that to have happen. Plus the hatred from blue to red to yellow to free to purple and maybe one orange. I am just wondering what happen to having skill over a pixel weapon now days.

I strongly disagree with some of the things you said. I can name you right now 5 people who don't have a single Maelstrom weapon, and are vastly more experienced and skilled than me at certain content. I know some people who've beaten VMoL without any Maelstrom weapons, and VMoL is the only veteran trial I haven't completed (I keep getting close and failing to the point I've given up hopes of getting the skin from Maw). So again, that isn't the case.

Also, people will judge you whether you have a: Skin, title, or weapon or not. That's just the way some people are. Some people think those with Maelstrom weapons are superior players than other players. Me? I know that some people pay others to get them leaderboard spots and VMA clears. So no, I don't judge anyone on a Stormproof title or not.

However, a Stormproof title does show that you are quite a skilled player. Yes, I'm aware it's conflicting with what I just said about people not earning their Stormproof titles and Flawless Conqueror titles, but those that do earn them? Are usually overall better than you average or typical player in terms of overall ability and skill. VMA in a sense trains you. It's a grueling and unforgiving form of training, but causes you to leave often as a much better player than when you went in. VMA makes you think differently after clearing it, and makes you rethink how you've previously played ESO.

Hm... Come to think of it... VMA seems to almost be preparing you for something. For what exactly, I have no idea. But, with the strong weapons and the skills required to beat it... It's almost as though ZOS is trying to prepare players for what's to come. Is it 12-man trials maybe, or "hard" dungeons like the 2 new dungeons with the SotH update? I don't know. But, it definitely feels like preparation for something. Like a training grounds of sorts. You go in "weak", and come out "OP WTF strong".

Soundwave · September 2016

You're thinking too much into, its for solo players period. Its not there to train u for what's coming, so your telling there going to put end game content that requires u do it by yourself using the same dreadful mechanics of the vma. I quit, I am good I will uninstall right now and never comeback. Why should I be punish if I am casual tamriel adventure.

Ch4mpTW · September 2016

Soundwave wrote: »

You're thinking too much into, its for solo players period. Its not there to train u for what's coming, so your telling there going to put end game content that requires u do it by yourself using the same dreadful mechanics of the vma. I quit, I am good I will uninstall right now and never comeback. Why should I be punish if I am casual tamriel adventure.

Wait, now wait a moment. No one said anything about you being punished, bruh. There's no reason to quit the game, just because you struggle with VMA. No reason at all. And if you want, I'd be willing to work with you on completing it. And try to point you in the direction of others who don't mind helping you complete it as well. Also, who's punishing you or mistreating you for having not completed it? While we may share a difference of opinion, you're still a fellow human being at the end of the day, bruh-bruh. And you're special to me, for the simple fact that you and I have something in common. Our enjoyment of the Elder Scrolls franchise.

kadar · September 2016

Soundwave wrote: »

Maelstrom weapons and its ideology behind them, is of one the reason why i won't do pve content. No matter how good your set is, how well u understand boss fight, able to listen (communication is key), in some else eye the person with a maelstrom weapon is better than u.

When not if, they increase gear cap, the vma wont scale. There is too much drama that goes with, it was suppose to be something for solo players could earn. Now its required by guilds, pugs, your mom, and everything in between.

Its funny how quickly players judge u base on the content that have or haven't done. Why judge, its just a game. Why r u better than me, does it make u feel good that u can accomplish something that required excellent hand and eye coordination.

Definition of insanity- when do something over and over, the outcome is the same. That is how I see everyone that comes about the RNG in wma. Why does it matter that u can push more dps, hps than your fellow guildie. The maelstrom has turned into the new pissing contest or my dad is bigger than yours.

Who gives a flying flip, its just a game. I play it because its fun, I understand people have something to prove. Why? Thats the question u should probably start asking yourself. Not saying everyone should get along, that is not possible; people are way to judgmental for that to have happen. Plus the hatred from blue to red to yellow to free to purple and maybe one orange. I am just wondering what happen to having skill over a pixel weapon now days.

It's interesting because the whole: "Show me your Stormproof title or you can't join my guild/group," isn't a thing on PC. It's a quick way to get an idea of someone's ability, sure, but that's all it is on PC. I guess because we can track DPS with addons, it doesn't matter what content you've done, only how you can perform in a Trial/dungeon/group scenario.

Soundwave · September 2016

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Soundwave wrote: »

You're thinking too much into, its for solo players period. Its not there to train u for what's coming, so your telling there going to put end game content that requires u do it by yourself using the same dreadful mechanics of the vma. I quit, I am good I will uninstall right now and never comeback. Why should I be punish if I am casual tamriel adventure.

Wait, now wait a moment. No one said anything about you being punished, bruh. There's no reason to quit the game, just because you struggle with VMA. No reason at all. And if you want, I'd be willing to work with you on completing it. And try to point you in the direction of others who don't mind helping you complete it as well. Also, who's punishing you or mistreating you for having not completed it? While we may share a difference of opinion, you're still a fellow human being at the end of the day, bruh-bruh. And you're special to me, for the simple fact that you and I have something in common. Our enjoyment of the Elder Scrolls franchise.

Bruh u put tear un my eye, u get a free hug.

Cant really complete it, if i cant afford the content. I had the membership for a while, but life happens. The maelstrom weapons are similar to the legendary weapons to wow. At least those where harder to obtain, well until now. Just think, having something that strong and easily obtaining isn't a good think.

P.S. I am lonely player that hates interaction with people. I play the game because I enjoy it, I dont have friends that player it. I dont get involve with group activities, its that dont understand mechanics. Most mechanics dont stand in fire, red circles, run, roll, dodge, stack. I just worry my dps or heals arent good enough. So I slowly grind cp and give my opinion on the forums. U like them or u, doesn't bother me.

Kalante · September 2016

I play this game solo and we are the one's who truly get the short end of the stick because we play pvp and are forced to get undaunted and vma to be competitive. You in the other hand get to play pve and get help from others and pve has nowhere near the lag pvp has, not even close. I still managed to get vma 2h and bow weapons and grinded my undaunted with random pugs for a month straight. All with out coming here on the forums asking for a crutch.

All i hear is waah waaah i cant get muh vma weapons as easy even though im pve'r but when things get tough now pve is not fun. Cry me a river.

Jaronking · September 2016

Kalante wrote: »

I play this game solo and we are the one's who truly get the short end of the stick because we play pvp and are forced to get undaunted and vma to be competitive. You in the other hand get to play pve and get help from others and pve has nowhere near the lag pvp has, not even close. I still managed to get vma 2h and bow weapons and grinded my undaunted with random pugs for a month straight. All with out coming here on the forums asking for a crutch.

All i hear is waah waaah i cant get muh vma weapons as easy even though im pve'r but when things get tough now pve is not fun. Cry me a river.

But I am a PVPer and hate PVe and I want my sharpened great sword and bow?I ran it 80+ times I just want to get back to PVP but can't.

Soundwave · September 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

I play this game solo and we are the one's who truly get the short end of the stick because we play pvp and are forced to get undaunted and vma to be competitive. You in the other hand get to play pve and get help from others and pve has nowhere near the lag pvp has, not even close. I still managed to get vma 2h and bow weapons and grinded my undaunted with random pugs for a month straight. All with out coming here on the forums asking for a crutch.

All i hear is waah waaah i cant get muh vma weapons as easy even though im pve'r but when things get tough now pve is not fun. Cry me a river.

But I am a PVPer and hate PVe and I want my sharpened great sword and bow?I ran it 80+ times I just want to get back to PVP but can't.

Why should that matter, maelstrom weapon shouldn't be allow in pvp. Those should only be for pve, period.

kadar · September 2016

Soundwave wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

I play this game solo and we are the one's who truly get the short end of the stick because we play pvp and are forced to get undaunted and vma to be competitive. You in the other hand get to play pve and get help from others and pve has nowhere near the lag pvp has, not even close. I still managed to get vma 2h and bow weapons and grinded my undaunted with random pugs for a month straight. All with out coming here on the forums asking for a crutch.

All i hear is waah waaah i cant get muh vma weapons as easy even though im pve'r but when things get tough now pve is not fun. Cry me a river.

But I am a PVPer and hate PVe and I want my sharpened great sword and bow?I ran it 80+ times I just want to get back to PVP but can't.

Why should that matter, maelstrom weapon shouldn't be allow in pvp. Those should only be for pve, period.

You sir, have VERY interesting ideas for how games should work...

Kalante · September 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

I play this game solo and we are the one's who truly get the short end of the stick because we play pvp and are forced to get undaunted and vma to be competitive. You in the other hand get to play pve and get help from others and pve has nowhere near the lag pvp has, not even close. I still managed to get vma 2h and bow weapons and grinded my undaunted with random pugs for a month straight. All with out coming here on the forums asking for a crutch.

All i hear is waah waaah i cant get muh vma weapons as easy even though im pve'r but when things get tough now pve is not fun. Cry me a river.

But I am a PVPer and hate PVe and I want my sharpened great sword and bow?I ran it 80+ times I just want to get back to PVP but can't.

i like some of the pve content but some of it is just unnecessarily brutal. It took me 50 tries to get my vma weapons. I got lucky in getting my 2h on my 16th run but not so much for my bow. I got sharpened dagger and a precise dagger along the way which could be used for pve stuff. They should add a token system for those who have the patience and skill to beat it.

Soundwave · September 2016

The_Outsider wrote: »

Soundwave wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

I play this game solo and we are the one's who truly get the short end of the stick because we play pvp and are forced to get undaunted and vma to be competitive. You in the other hand get to play pve and get help from others and pve has nowhere near the lag pvp has, not even close. I still managed to get vma 2h and bow weapons and grinded my undaunted with random pugs for a month straight. All with out coming here on the forums asking for a crutch.

All i hear is waah waaah i cant get muh vma weapons as easy even though im pve'r but when things get tough now pve is not fun. Cry me a river.

But I am a PVPer and hate PVe and I want my sharpened great sword and bow?I ran it 80+ times I just want to get back to PVP but can't.

Why should that matter, maelstrom weapon shouldn't be allow in pvp. Those should only be for pve, period.

You sir, have VERY interesting ideas for how games should work...

Thats why nerfs happen in the first place. U let players use overpower weapons in pvp, skills and weapons get nerf and imbalances happen. ZoS u have to figure how to separate pve from pvp or you're never going to have good balance between players. Look at wow, they have been at it for 11 years and they still having imbalance pvp. Mmm just saying

Kalante · September 2016

Soundwave wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

I play this game solo and we are the one's who truly get the short end of the stick because we play pvp and are forced to get undaunted and vma to be competitive. You in the other hand get to play pve and get help from others and pve has nowhere near the lag pvp has, not even close. I still managed to get vma 2h and bow weapons and grinded my undaunted with random pugs for a month straight. All with out coming here on the forums asking for a crutch.

All i hear is waah waaah i cant get muh vma weapons as easy even though im pve'r but when things get tough now pve is not fun. Cry me a river.

But I am a PVPer and hate PVe and I want my sharpened great sword and bow?I ran it 80+ times I just want to get back to PVP but can't.

Why should that matter, maelstrom weapon shouldn't be allow in pvp. Those should only be for pve, period.

Sure let's further alienate pvp players from ever touching pve based content. They already destroyed the whole reason for pvpr's to do trials by making gear only BOP. I have an even better idea why not just separate it into two games? PVP would no longer have to deal with the bot patch that ruined PVP and it would run a lot smoother. To get all the gear you just buy it with AP. PVER's can stay on their game and be the PVER's that they are. They can grind, craft their gear, and role play at their hearts content all with out worrying about the balance done in PVP affecting PVE. How about that does that sound like the perfect utopia? or how about ZOS just stop messing around with dlc and mounts and make a complete overhaul of their pve/pvp mechanics and treat them as two separate entities. Here the numbers for pvp and here are the numbers for pve. Because obviously nothing is working right now balance wise.

Soundwave · September 2016

Kalante wrote: »

Soundwave wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

I play this game solo and we are the one's who truly get the short end of the stick because we play pvp and are forced to get undaunted and vma to be competitive. You in the other hand get to play pve and get help from others and pve has nowhere near the lag pvp has, not even close. I still managed to get vma 2h and bow weapons and grinded my undaunted with random pugs for a month straight. All with out coming here on the forums asking for a crutch.

All i hear is waah waaah i cant get muh vma weapons as easy even though im pve'r but when things get tough now pve is not fun. Cry me a river.

But I am a PVPer and hate PVe and I want my sharpened great sword and bow?I ran it 80+ times I just want to get back to PVP but can't.

Why should that matter, maelstrom weapon shouldn't be allow in pvp. Those should only be for pve, period.

Sure let's further alienate pvp players from ever touching pve based content. They already destroyed the whole reason for pvpr's to do trials by making gear only BOP. I have an even better idea why not just separate it into two games? PVP would no longer have to deal with the bot patch that ruined PVP and it would run a lot smoother. To get all the gear you just buy it with AP. PVER's can stay on their game and be the PVER's that they are. They can grind, craft their gear, and role play at their hearts content.

AP pvp vendor, gear with pvp stats and pvp set bonuses. Allowing overpower pve gear into pvp is just leaving a bad taste in your mouth.

Jaronking · September 2016

Soundwave wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Kalante wrote: »

I play this game solo and we are the one's who truly get the short end of the stick because we play pvp and are forced to get undaunted and vma to be competitive. You in the other hand get to play pve and get help from others and pve has nowhere near the lag pvp has, not even close. I still managed to get vma 2h and bow weapons and grinded my undaunted with random pugs for a month straight. All with out coming here on the forums asking for a crutch.

All i hear is waah waaah i cant get muh vma weapons as easy even though im pve'r but when things get tough now pve is not fun. Cry me a river.

But I am a PVPer and hate PVe and I want my sharpened great sword and bow?I ran it 80+ times I just want to get back to PVP but can't.

Why should that matter, maelstrom weapon shouldn't be allow in pvp. Those should only be for pve, period.

Yes let's make a even bigger divide between PVP and PVe.Let's make it so PVE and PVp sets don't work in other zones so players can't find a middle ground.What about sets that drop in PVE but only useful for PVP amberplasm and the hunt sets useful in PVP not very much in endgame PVE.Not to mentioned than PVE players wouldn't be able to use leki or marksman and what about the VMA 2h its not useful in PVE but very useful in PVP same as the master bow.

Soundwave · September 2016

If u want the imbalances between toons to slightly decrease a separation between pvp and pve must happen. Pvp isn't about who's got the biggest stick in the yard, pvp is about team work. But who has that stick rules the yard. For new people entering, its very frustrating and nerve racking. If you're defending the broken system than u r part of the problem.

Izaki · September 2016

Asmael wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

FrostFallFox wrote: »

You are not Forced to do anything. We all have choices, just don't make the wrong ones

If I want to have high DPS to qualified for vet trials I more less have to obtain the Maelstrom weapon which requires me to completely alter my settings at the cost of me.

Don't tell me otherwise. Name me 1 person who completed a vet trial that does not use a Maelstrom weapon nor a masters (vDSA) weapon?

Can I personally craft a destruction staff that is equally powerful as this?

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Streak One.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KRsu4XwZ8

All is said and shown here. 48,5k DPS without a Maelstrom Staff speaks for itself.