A Request From A Console Player

Snape2255 · September 2016

If there is another console player here who also has a request, why not request here? If PC players would be so kind as to go through the thread and look at testing requests from console players and answer them, that'd be awesome! So if you're a console player and you have a question, feel free to also request here and let's see if anyone on the PTS can help out!

Hello everyone,

I'm a PS4 player and therefore do not have access to the PTS, however just like every other console player who has checked out the patch notes and the various videos from the PTS, I am very excited to check out the possibilities granted from these new sets coming out.

I'm very interested, predominantly, in the "Selene Set". I've had my eyes on this the second someone posted a screenshot of the bonus.

I run a DW/Bow Stam Sorc atm and the bonus looks incredible for my build, provided a certain condition can be met: does "Flurry" proc the primal spirit?

Now hear me out. The set states "Direct Melee Damage"; to me this insinuates that it must be damage caused within a certain proximity of the target (to constitute "melee range") and off a melee based weapon/weapon attack (e.g.: not bow) and it must NOT be from an AoE or from a secondary DoT effect (poison, flame damage, summons etc.) What I am wondering is; Flurry, although classed as a "Damage over time effect", per se, isn't a poison, or flame damage or anything like the other "DoT's". Flurry, in my opinion, meets the criteria to be classed as "Direct melee damage", at LEAST on the first initial attack and/or last attack.

If you have a look at Nerien'eth Set it distinctly states "damage that is not from a damage over time effect", this would probably strike out proc'ing off of Flurry. Selene's set, however, states "Direct melee damage". It does NOT specifically state anything that implies Flurry cannot proc it.

In a nutshell, my request is for someone to take their time to test out Selene's Set using only Flurry and let me know if it gets proc'd. I have a lot of plans for my Stam Sorc come next patch and it entirely depends on whether this set proc's on Flurry or not.

If anyone can give me a shout as to whether it does or not, or can even test it, record it and upload it, that would be fantastic and you would have my sincerest gratitude.

Thank you on behalf of all the console players who want to find stuff like this out and can't.

Snape2255 · September 2016

Can't anyone provide an answer?

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Strider_Roshin · September 2016

As a console PS4 player, I'll log onto the PTS later and check it out for you

Snape2255 · September 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

As a console PS4 player, I'll log onto the PTS later and check it out for you

Thank you so much!

Do you have ESO on the PC too? Or is there some voodoo magic I don't know about that lets console players try out the PTS?

XvarleyX · September 2016

@Snape2255

Selene won't proc for me using flurry alone. It does proc from light and/or heavy attacks though.

Works fine when weaving attacks between skills though

Swindy · September 2016

XvarleyX wrote: »

@Snape2255

Selene won't proc for me using flurry alone. It does proc from light and/or heavy attacks though.

Works fine when weaving attacks between skills though

And yet, Viper procs for me (XBox) with jabs or flurry, as long as I'm close enough to the target I'm attacking, but of course not at full jabs (8m) distance.
That's quite odd.

Strider_Roshin · September 2016

Snape2255 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

As a console PS4 player, I'll log onto the PTS later and check it out for you

Thank you so much! Do you have ESO on the PC too? Or is there some voodoo magic I don't know about that lets console players try out the PTS?

I have it on PC as well, but I just use the template characters.

Snape2255 · September 2016

XvarleyX wrote: »

@Snape2255

Selene won't proc for me using flurry alone. It does proc from light and/or heavy attacks though.

Works fine when weaving attacks between skills though

Ahh well that sucks

Time to re-think my setup next patch then. May have to stick to Velidreth

It seems a bit odd that it won't proc off of Flurry. Not sure if this is an oversight or just poor choice of wording from the devs since Flurry should warrant "Direct Melee Damage".

Thanks for having a look for me though!

Swindy wrote: »

XvarleyX wrote: »

@Snape2255

Selene won't proc for me using flurry alone. It does proc from light and/or heavy attacks though.

Works fine when weaving attacks between skills though

And yet, Viper procs for me (XBox) with jabs or flurry, as long as I'm close enough to the target I'm attacking, but of course not at full jabs (8m) distance.
That's quite odd.

Definitely strange that one should proc and the other doesn't them. Seems like they've messed either the set up or the wording.

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Snape2255 wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

As a console PS4 player, I'll log onto the PTS later and check it out for you

Thank you so much! Do you have ESO on the PC too? Or is there some voodoo magic I don't know about that lets console players try out the PTS?

I have it on PC as well, but I just use the template characters.

Ahh fair enough, guess it's convenient for testing new stuff out before it hits consoles

acw37162 · September 2016

As stated above;

Selenes set will proc on a light or heavy attack and not much else Ina stam sorc kit besides uppercut, cleave, thrown dagger, whirlwind, snipe, and bombard.

I really dislike the design of Selene's as it favors only stamina NB and PVP 2H and bow builds.

Stormfist

The physical penatration Drugh limbs attack

And the

Max stam conal earthquake with stun are looking real strong in my opinion right now (my current favorite is this one for he max stam one live bonus)

Chew_Magna · September 2016

I've heard it mentioned somewhere that DW skills aren't actually seen as "melee" by the game. I'm at work right now so I can't look, but I believe the tooltip will specify if a skill is actually melee or has a small range to it.

Snape2255 · September 2016

Chew_Magna wrote: »

I've heard it mentioned somewhere that DW skills aren't actually seen as "melee" by the game. I'm at work right now so I can't look, but I believe the tooltip will specify if a skill is actually melee or has a small range to it.

"Logic". ZOS makes no sense I swear...

acw37162 wrote: »

As stated above;

Selenes set will proc on a light or heavy attack and not much else Ina stam sorc kit besides uppercut, cleave, thrown dagger, whirlwind, snipe, and bombard.

I really dislike the design of Selene's as it favors only stamina NB and PVP 2H and bow builds.

Stormfist

The physical penatration Drugh limbs attack

And the

Max stam conal earthquake with stun are looking real strong in my opinion right now (my current favorite is this one for he max stam one live bonus)

Yeah Selene's viability just reduced a tremendous amount. It's only useful for Dizzying Swing spamming DKs and Stam NBs it seems. Or maybe with a Puncture build? Is there not a set being released that makes sword and board abilities heal you? Or was I dreaming that up?

Would you care to show me some buffed & geared screenshots of the set tooltips? Plus some advice on what would be the best for a PVP setting?

All the screenshots atm seem to be of unbuffed, ungeared chars. I'd like to see what damage it's predicting on a geared up player. I am currently running about 4.3k Weap Damage with 40k Max Stamina, if that helps.

The earthquake set seems decent, if not for the two second build-up of the EQ. So much can happen in 2 secs and it'd be so easy to avoid.

The stormfist set looks pretty mint to be fair, but is it easy to avoid the final burst hit? And how does the damage compare to that of Velidreth? (Velidreth having a 10% higher chance of proc'ing)

And the limbs seem interesting for the DoT, but once again how does that damage scale up to other sets in the long run?

What I like most is that there are so many sets being released it means there can be so many different possible variations and some people might like some sets more than others. I'm genuinely excited to test out all the different ones for myself. For now though any previews and/or recommendations are extremely welcome!

I've already decided on running the new Max Stam set, I worked out that it should give me about 180 more weap damage (equivalent) than Hundings, and if I run 2x Maelstrom Daggers I will only lose 1% crit rate. I feel like that's a worthy exchange.

acw37162 · September 2016

@Snape2255 as far as creed shots maybe can't promise on heat I really haven played with my Alienware alpha enough to be proficient there.

As far as PVP the meta especially for dueling is to far from being set.

For a stam sorc I would go with skoria personally or velidreth but I am not a huge velidreth supporter the fact that's it misses 30% of the time plus the cooldown makes it less deriserable to me then skoria which is getting buffed and never misses and will proc a ton from a stam sorc. If you proc a velidreth on a gap closer it's gg most of the time.

My favorite set on test is armor of the trainee it come in all flavor and weights weapons and jewelry and the health bonus allow you to run seven medium and a monster helm with a different one pice set bonus.

I've had a ton of fun with strength of the automaton but you have to build specifically around that, for example it pairs poorly with the masters bow and poison injection.

Snape2255 · September 2016

Hmm I do think Skoria could be decent but something about it puts me off really. I'm mostly interested in trying out these new sets, it's just that I'd like to have a decent idea as to what the buffed, geared tooltip damage output is looking like so I know what to primarily focus on getting with my undaunted keys etc., rather than waiting for ages on the off chance I might get one that isn't efficient enough for me to run.

What I like about the phys pen set is the swiftness of the cooldown. However I am REALLY interested in the Stormfist one, provided they cannot simply dodge roll out of that fist.

Lots of things could go wrong with my choice of set, that's why I'm interested in seeing them in action and/or getting an idea of what their output would be like. After all, if I get hold of the phys pen set and even whilst buffed up it's only putting out 3.6k damage per proc (let alone in PVP where it's halved), it will be useless. But if I find out that upon being geared, getting your CP sorted and getting your buffs up it is doing around 6-7k per proc, even if halved...that's damage that interests me on a 3 second cooldown.

Obviously you guys don't have to test them if you don't want to, I'd just like to see what the tooltips suggest once geared etc., if you are able to do that for me?

Or even video them in action?